OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender) (Read 13411 times)

macsak

OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« on: January 29, 2018, 03:02:02 PM »
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_.pdf   
SB2436   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to an unspecified number of hours.   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC ->
Testimony here -> https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2436
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 10:44:26 AM by Jl808 »

Lihikai

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 05:45:16 PM »
Submitted - only takes a couple of minutes.

rklapp

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 06:24:43 PM »
Done.
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oldfart

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 09:07:57 PM »
Done
What, Me Worry?

eyeeatingfish

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 10:08:40 PM »
Done.

I am trying to figure out, is this just a version? Otherwise I think they wouldn't just leave it open ended to say "hours" but I could be wrong.

macsak

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 10:09:46 PM »
Done.

I am trying to figure out, is this just a version? Otherwise I think they wouldn't just leave it open ended to say "hours" but I could be wrong.

they'll amend it later

6716J

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 10:51:32 AM »
Done

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Jl808

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 05:13:31 PM »

S 2/1/2018: The committee(s) on PSM deferred the measure until 02-06-18 1:20PM in conference room 229.   

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_.pdf   
SB2436   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   RELATING TO FIREARMS.   
Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to an unspecified number of hours.   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

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Jl808

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 04:06:05 AM »
S 2/6/2018: The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in PSM were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Nishihara, Wakai, Baker, Ihara, L. Thielen; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_.pdf   
SB2436   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to an unspecified number of hours.   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

Jl808

Re: submit testimony opposing SB2436
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 10:37:50 AM »
S 2/9/2018: Reported from PSM (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 2165) with recommendation of passage on Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referral to JDC.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD1_.pdf   
SB2436 SD1   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to 24 hours. (SD1)   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

Jl808

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2018, 01:14:40 PM »

S 2/27/2018: The committee(s) on JDC recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in JDC were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Taniguchi, K. Rhoads; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Gabbard, Kim, L. Thielen ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD1_.pdf   
SB2436 SD1   Firearms; Ammunition; Disqualification; Voluntary Surrender   
RELATING TO FIREARMS.   Shortens the time period for voluntary surrender of firearms and ammunition upon disqualification from ownership, possession, or control from 30 days to 24 hours. (SD1)   
Oppose.   NISHIHARA, BAKER, K. RHOADS, Espero, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.

hvybarrels

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 04:05:25 PM »
WTF Gabbard!
The F in Communism stands for Food

punaperson

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2018, 04:41:27 PM »
WTF Gabbard!
2/27/201   The committee(s) on JDC recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in JDC were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Taniguchi, K. Rhoads; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Gabbard, Kim, L. Thielen ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.

Now we have to wait and see what the amended version contains. Anyone know? And even with the amendments at least 3 members voted "aye with reservations", but still "aye".

ren

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2018, 04:46:38 PM »
AYE sus dis kine! :grrr:
Deeds Not Words

macsak

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2018, 07:22:38 PM »
2/27/201   The committee(s) on JDC recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in JDC were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Taniguchi, K. Rhoads; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Gabbard, Kim, L. Thielen ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none.

Now we have to wait and see what the amended version contains. Anyone know? And even with the amendments at least 3 members voted "aye with reservations", but still "aye".
from unspecified number of days
to 1 day,
then 48 hours
and now
1 week

punaperson

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2018, 09:06:11 PM »
from unspecified number of days
to 1 day,
then 48 hours
and now
1 week
Are you serious? HD1 was 24 hours. [Read in less-than-genius hillbilly voice]: "They'd have them some real good legislatin' if they got it up to 30 days. That there'd be a good fixin'."  :crazy:

I'd really like to see these clowns "public servants" have a full open public debate on how many rounds is the "correct" maximum number of rounds for a handgun magazine. They'd probably come up with something like they did in New York: 7. I'd love to have seen the "logic" of that debate! (No one knows  anything about that because it was done in an "emergency" midnight session closed to the public, naturally.) Of course a year later they had to amend that because no one makes 7-round mags for nearly any handguns, but they fixed it. You can have a 10 round mag but only legally put 7 rounds into it, which is something I'm sure all criminals obey. You can't make this stuff up!  :crazy:

macsak

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2018, 09:22:09 PM »
Are you serious?

why would I not be serious?
you asked a question
I answered
if you cannot accept my answer, do not ask

hvybarrels

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 09:12:36 AM »
why would I not be serious?
you asked a question
I answered
if you cannot accept my answer, do not ask

For some reason I heard this in *android voice*
The F in Communism stands for Food

punaperson

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2018, 08:41:27 PM »
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SB2436_SD2_.HTM

SB2436 SD2:

SECTION 1.  Section 134-7.3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by amending subsection (b) to read as follows:

     "(b)  Any person disqualified from ownership, possession, or control of firearms and ammunition under section 134-7, within seven days of disqualification, shall voluntarily surrender all firearms and ammunition to the chief of police where the person resides or dispose of all firearms and ammunition.  If any person fails to voluntarily surrender or dispose of all firearms and ammunition within [thirty] seven days from the date of disqualification, the chief of police may seize all firearms and ammunition."

bass monkey

Re: OPPOSE: SB2436 (Firearms Ammo Voluntary Surrender)
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2018, 08:45:14 PM »
I wonder if this got any relationship to the kaiser fiasco