OPPOSE: HB2024 (Gun Violence Protective Order) (Read 10776 times)

aieahound

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2018, 01:50:49 PM »
Done and accepted.

rklapp

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2018, 03:28:01 PM »
Done.
Yahh! Freedom and justice shall always prevail over tyranny, Babysitter Girl!
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eyeeatingfish

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2018, 08:55:54 PM »
H 1/30/2018: Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Thursday, 02-01-18 2:00PM in House conference room 325.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB2024_.pdf   
HB2024   Gun Violence; Protective Orders   RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.   
Establishes a detailed process allowing law enforcement officers and family or household members to obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition where the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another.      C. LEE, JOHANSON, LOWEN, MIZUNO, NAKASHIMA, NISHIMOTO, TAKAYAMA   JUD
Testify here -> http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=2024

creates a new class of protective order that allows the court to require you to forfeit firearms and ammunition
AND THERE IS AN EX-PARTE HEARING THAT THEY CAN USE WITHOUT YOU BEING PRESENT OR EVEN NOTIFICATION

I could support this if there were a hearing involved where one could contest claims but just unilaterally taking away guns is not going to fly.

punaperson

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2018, 01:11:41 PM »
Testimony re SB2046 (bumpstock, "modifications" ban bill) is posted: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2046_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-01-18_.PDF

Tabulation:

FOR    5 (five)

OPPOSED 104 (one hundred and four)

I haven't read all the comments (and even my quick tabulation looking through over 100 pages could be off by a couple), but the support is from HPD, Maui Prosecutor, Big Island Mayor Harry Kim, Americans for Democratic action and one individual.

Now let's see how the committee "translates" that public input into action.

I appreciate everyone who took the time to submit testimony to attempt to defensively defeat legislation to further restrict our rights.

Now, can we please take the same energy and attempt to use it to go on the offense and get the committee chairs to hear the bills to restore our rights (CCW shall issue, handgun mag limit change to 17, and end stun gun ban)?  :shaka:

Edited to correct bill number... my bad... too many numbers swimming around... if there were only one or two bad ones maybe, maybe, I could keep them straight.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 02:06:02 PM by punaperson »

aieahound

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2018, 02:02:51 PM »
That's the testimony for SB2046.

Testimony for SB2024 is also up though.

Thanks Puna.  :shaka:

punaperson

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2018, 02:07:03 PM »
That's the testimony for SB2046.

Testimony for SB2024 is also up though.

Thanks Puna.  :shaka:
Thanks for pointing out that significant error. I edited my post to correct that... just can't keep them all (unfortunately) straight!  :shaka:

aieahound

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2018, 02:08:43 PM »
Hope you don't mind I quoted it and moved to the 2046 thread with the edit.  :shaka:
Keep up the good work.  :thumbsup:

PalisadesKid

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2018, 04:21:38 PM »
HB 2024 UPDATE:

2/1/2018   H   The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred.



https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/HB2024_TESTIMONY_JUD_02-01-18_.PDF

***On a side note, while sifting through the testimonies, its oddly hypocritical IMHO that the guy that appears to run that popular "Stolen Stuff Hawaii" Facebook Page was in SUPPORT of this measure. But to each their own I guess ...  :crazy:

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2018, 05:01:21 PM »
That's the testimony for SB2046.

Testimony for SB2024 is also up though.

Thanks Puna.  :shaka:

HB 2024

Jl808

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2018, 05:14:08 PM »
H 2/1/2018: The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB2024_.pdf   
HB2024   Gun Violence; Protective Orders   RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.   
Establishes a detailed process allowing law enforcement officers and family or household members to obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition where the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another.
Oppose. C. LEE, JOHANSON, LOWEN, MIZUNO, NAKASHIMA, NISHIMOTO, TAKAYAMA   JUD
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macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 05:21:28 PM »
H 2/1/2018: The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/HB2024_.pdf   
HB2024   Gun Violence; Protective Orders   RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.   
Establishes a detailed process allowing law enforcement officers and family or household members to obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition where the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another.
Oppose. C. LEE, JOHANSON, LOWEN, MIZUNO, NAKASHIMA, NISHIMOTO, TAKAYAMA   JUD

YES!
great job, everyone!

Heavies

Re: FIRE MISSION! - HB2024, PLEASE everyone, testimony due 1/31 2PM!
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2018, 05:45:46 PM »
HB 2024 UPDATE:

2/1/2018   H   The committee(s) on JUD recommend(s) that the measure be deferred.



https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/HB2024_TESTIMONY_JUD_02-01-18_.PDF

***On a side note, while sifting through the testimonies, its oddly hypocritical IMHO that the guy that appears to run that popular "Stolen Stuff Hawaii" Facebook Page was in SUPPORT of this measure. But to each their own I guess ...  :crazy:


He's a good guy, non partisan, and very common sense.  My guess is, on the surface, the bill seems like a good idea, not understanding the implications of no due process.   

His page is going to bring change to Hawaii, he has some great power there.  If anyone here has Facebook, you should join that page and group, and help GENTLY steer the people in the right direction.