Today in the paper (Read 9594 times)

Gordyf

Today in the paper
« on: February 04, 2018, 09:25:55 AM »
Did anyone else read this in this AM's paper.
This young lady, a junior at Punahou, noted for it's progressive tendencies will go far.
I see a career in Constitutional Law.
Hope all can access the link without being signed up with the Star Advertiser




http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/02/04/editorial/island-voices/risky-revisionism-of-second-amendment/
Aloha
Gordy

ren

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 09:34:19 AM »
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Deeds Not Words

aieahound

zippz

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 09:54:28 AM »
Long article written by a Punahou junior class student also President of the Conservative Club, standard fare 2a arguments.  Constitutional, tyranny, founding fathers, etc.  Well written.  I'll see if I can invite her to some 2a events.  We need more people like this in the universities.  A big stumbling block is they're not able to purchase firearms until their 21 so may lose interest in these issues in college.

She does go over the hypocracy of people that want the government to uphold constitutional rights but denounces the 2nd amendment.
"Congresswoman Maxine Waters recently claimed, “Congress has a constitutional responsibility” to impeach President Donald Trump. While this is debatable, she seems to believe that upholding the Second Amendment is less of a constitutional responsibility in comparison. It is contra- dictory to believe that some parts of the Constitution are more important than others in order to rationalize one’s political views.

Waters and those like her have a responsibility to the Constitution in its entirety, notably including “the right for the people to keep and bear Arms.” Disregarding the Second Amendment due to incompatibility not only threatens the very fabric of our nation but it also damaging to arguments that those on the Left would want to make about applying the Constitution elsewhere."

ren

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 09:56:56 AM »
Thanks for the link.
It was a refreshing and great read, especially by a high school student from a progressive school.
Deeds Not Words

drck1000

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 10:01:02 AM »
I’ll have to read this article fully later. Punahou seems to be a breeding ground for Uber liberals. For highly educated individuals, many seem to have such blind hatred for 2a, Trump, etc. I have many close friends who are Punahou grads and some have the blind hate I mentioned above, spewing it all over social media. I generally ignore. One of my closest friends is a Punahou grad and pretty liberal and I will discuss to an extent, but usually from a neutral position. Once you approach from a position of “not in their side”, the conversation never seems to go well.

zippz

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 10:08:07 AM »
I sent the author an email to see if she wants bring her group out to the range.  Let me know if you're interested in helping out.  Can run the events like I did with the university groups.

drck1000

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2018, 10:13:22 AM »
I sent the author an email to see if she wants bring her group out to the range.  Let me know if you're interested in helping out.  Can run the events like I did with the university groups.
Post here when and where and I’ll help. I’ll try to spread the word to other shooter friends who aren’t on here. At least a few are Punahou grads.

hvybarrels

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2018, 10:55:41 AM »
Once you approach from a position of “not in their side”, the conversation never seems to go well.

I can tell you for a fact that it's a problem on both sides of the aisle.
The F in Communism stands for Food

macsak

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2018, 11:05:44 AM »
I sent the author an email to see if she wants bring her group out to the range.  Let me know if you're interested in helping out.  Can run the events like I did with the university groups.

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i'll donate guns and ammo

macsak

oldfart

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2018, 11:11:49 AM »
Long article written by a Punahou junior class student also President of the Conservative Club, standard fare 2a arguments.  Constitutional, tyranny, founding fathers, etc.  Well written.  I'll see if I can invite her to some 2a events.
......
The reason for all the standard fare arguments is that there are only a finite number of truths.
Lies however, are limitless. They can be fabricated by anyone at any time as often as desired.
Let me know if you get something going. Maybe I can help.
What, Me Worry?

drck1000

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2018, 11:21:53 AM »
I can tell you for a fact that it's a problem on both sides of the aisle.
Yeah. It’s when any party/group takes things to an extreme. Just right now, it’s the rabid liberals. Guess it’s wlasys been that way, but just now they are more vocal since the tide isn’t in their favor.

hvybarrels

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2018, 12:09:15 PM »
A lot of it is hate speech. When they talk about NRA being a terrorist organization and consevatives being stupid and in the next breath speak against hate you know the rational part of the brain has taken a back seat.

Meanwhile conditions continue to deteriorate outside the urban bubbles so they have no idea of the dangerous situation brewing around them. Human nature being what it is, taking away weapons makes people vulnerable not safer.

I'm glad the author stuck to constitutional issues and kept it civil though. We need more young people like her to be the voice of reason.
The F in Communism stands for Food

mrgaf

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2018, 12:28:24 PM »
I sent the author an email to see if she wants bring her group out to the range.  Let me know if you're interested in helping out.  Can run the events like I did with the university groups.
Count me in as well.....
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

rklapp

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2018, 02:42:36 PM »
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While political beliefs seem resolute on all sides, there is a double standard in regard to constitutionality. The people who cry for a ban on guns or a constitutional revision are often quick to reason that the Constitution is out of date and inapplicable to modern times. However, this group of people is the same group of individuals that accuse the president of constitutional violations, which implies that the Constitution is both valid and must be upheld. Congresswoman Maxine Waters recently claimed, “Congress has a constitutional responsibility” to impeach President Donald Trump. While this is debatable, she seems to believe that upholding the Second Amendment is less of a constitutional responsibility in comparison. It is contradictory to believe that some parts of the Constitution are more important than others in order to rationalize one’s political views. Waters and those like her have a responsibility to the Constitution in its entirety, notably including “the right for the people to keep and bear Arms.” Disregarding the Second Amendment due to incompatibility not only threatens the very fabric of our nation but it also damaging to arguments that those on the Left would want to make about applying the Constitution elsewhere.
This can be dangerous. Inversely, if President Trump is unimpeachable, then the Constitution is fallible?
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zippz

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2018, 08:04:49 PM »
Unfortunately I've been told that there is no longer a Conservative Club on campus as their only openly Republican advisor has left.

Tom_G

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2018, 10:37:12 PM »
I sent the author an email to see if she wants bring her group out to the range.  Let me know if you're interested in helping out.  Can run the events like I did with the university groups.

I would love to help!
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

Drakiir84

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2018, 07:32:57 AM »
I'm down to help as well.  Would be great to be able to use one of the shooting bays.  If her club is interested perhaps LIFE would be willing to lend a portion of their fun shoot day to the group.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

Influence

Re: Today in the paper
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2018, 08:21:40 AM »
I’ll have to read this article fully later. Punahou seems to be a breeding ground for Uber liberals. For highly educated individuals, many seem to have such blind hatred for 2a, Trump, etc. I have many close friends who are Punahou grads and some have the blind hate I mentioned above, spewing it all over social media. I generally ignore. One of my closest friends is a Punahou grad and pretty liberal and I will discuss to an extent, but usually from a neutral position. Once you approach from a position of “not in their side”, the conversation never seems to go well.

I’m a Punahou grad and would somewhat agree, but there are a few of us who are very pro 2a.  My “conversations” with my close group of friends tend to get heated on the subject, however.  “Blind hatred” would sum it up well.