FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity" (Read 4428 times)

Jl808

FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« on: March 05, 2018, 08:59:11 PM »
Hawaii senate is requesting Hawaii Congressional delegation to "Oppose CCW Reciprocity". 

Please testify on this by 3/7/2018 1pm!

S 3/5/2018: The committee(s) on PSM has scheduled a public hearing on 03-08-18 1:30PM in conference room 229.   
SCR9   Concealed Carry Reciprocity; United States Congress   
REQUESTING THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION OF HAWAII AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS TO OPPOSE "CONCEALED CARRY RECIPROCITY" LEGISLATION.      
Oppose.   S. CHANG, BAKER, ESPERO, GALUTERIA, Dela Cruz, Ihara, Inouye, K. Kahele, Kidani, Shimabukuro, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SCR9_.pdf   
Testify here -> http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SCR&billnumber=9

S 3/5/2018: The committee(s) on PSM has scheduled a public hearing on 03-08-18 1:30PM in conference room 229.   
SR7   Concealed Carry Reciprocity; United States Congress   
REQUESTING THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION OF HAWAII AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS TO OPPOSE "CONCEALED CARRY RECIPROCITY" LEGISLATION.      
Oppose.   S. CHANG, BAKER, Ihara, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SR7_.pdf   
Testify here -> http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SR&billnumber=7
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

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Heavies

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 09:18:16 PM »
As a citizen of Hawaii and the United States of America, I oppose your opposition to concealed carry reciprocity.


Our Bills of Right guarantees the RIGHT to Keep and BEAR Arms. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right to carry a firearm, for the purpose of self-defense, OUTSIDE of the home is covered by that amendment.


Hawaii's defacto BAN on citizen’s RIGHTS to carry a firearm outside of the home for legal purposes and self-defense is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and MUST BE OVER TURNED.


RESTORE the citizen's right to carry in this state, or DO NOT OPPOSE concealed carry reciprocity.



[Name]


VOTER

EWA BEACH, HAWAII

stangzilla

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 07:09:19 AM »
done

Rocky

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2018, 10:07:28 AM »
 I also added...

" as the past several years have shown, Hawaii's police are unable to be everywhere to protect it's citizens at all times and the loss of innocent lives have occurred because of it.
 I do not want myself or my loved ones to become one of those statistic's.

DO NOT OPPOSE concealed carry reciprocity.

If you do not, please remove all armed security from and for any and all governmental buildings to prove you are as willing to become a victim just as you wish me and my family to be."
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

6716J

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 11:47:06 AM »
As a resident of the State of Hawaii and of the United States of America, I oppose your opposition to concealed carry reciprocity.

Our United States Constitutions Bills of Right, along with the Hawaii Constitution (noted below),  guarantees the right to keep and bear Arms. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right to carry a firearm, for the purpose of self-defense, is covered by that amendment.

In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the U.S. Supreme Court recognized that the right to arms preexisted the Constitution and in that case and in Presser v. Illinois (1886) recognized that the Second Amendment protected the right from being infringed by Congress. In United States v. Miller (1939), the Court again recognized that the right to arms is individually held and, citing the Tennessee case of Aymette v State, indicated that it protected the right to keep and bear arms that are "part of the ordinary military equipment" or the use of which could "contribute to the common defense." In its first opportunity to rule specifically on whose right the Second Amendment protects, District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Court ruled that the amendment protects an individual right "to keep and carry arms in case of confrontation," not contingent on service in a militia, while indicating, in dicta, that restrictions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, on the carrying of arms in sensitive locations, and with respect to the conditions on the sale of firearms could pass constitutional muster. In the 2010 case of McDonald v. Chicago, the Court applied incorporation doctrine to extend the Second Amendment's protections nationwide.

In commentary written by Judge Garwood in United States v. Emerson, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit concluded in 2001 that:
“...there are numerous instances of the phrase 'bear arms' being used to describe a civilian's carrying of arms. Early constitutional provisions or declarations of rights in at least some ten different states speak of the right of the 'people' [or 'citizen' or 'citizens'] "to bear arms in defense of themselves [or 'himself'] and the state,' or equivalent words, thus indisputably reflecting that under common usage 'bear arms' was in no sense restricted to bearing arms in military service. See Bliss v. Commonwealth, 13 Am. Dec. 251, 12 Ky. 90 (Ky. 1822).”

Similarly, in a released Senate report on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Senator Orrin Hatch, chairman, U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on the Constitution, states:
“They argue that the Second Amendment's words "right of the people" mean "a right of the state" — apparently overlooking the impact of those same words when used in the First and Fourth Amendments. The "right of the people" to assemble or to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures is not contested as an individual guarantee. Still they ignore consistency and claim that the right to "bear arms" relates only to military uses. This not only violates a consistent constitutional reading of "right of the people" but also ignores that the second amendment protects a right to "keep" arms. "When our ancestors forged a land "conceived in liberty", they did so with musket and rifle. When they reacted to attempts to dissolve their free institutions, and established their identity as a free nation, they did so as a nation of armed freemen. When they sought to record forever a guarantee of their rights, they devoted one full amendment out of ten to nothing but the protection of their right to keep and bear arms against governmental interference. Under my chairmanship the Subcommittee on the Constitution will concern itself with a proper recognition of, and respect for, this right most valued by free men.””

As such and in the light of the noted precedence, Hawaii's defacto BAN on citizen’s RIGHTS to carry a firearm outside of the home for legal purposes and self-defense is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and MUST BE OVER TURNED.

Please restore the citizen's right to carry in this state, or DO NOT OPPOSE concealed carry reciprocity.

[NAME]

MILILANI, HAWAII

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF HAWAII
PREAMBLE
We, the people of Hawaii, grateful for Divine Guidance, and mindful of our Hawaiian heritage and uniqueness as an island State, dedicate our efforts to fulfill the philosophy decreed by the Hawaii State motto, "Ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono."

We reserve the right to control our destiny, to nurture the integrity of our people and culture, and to preserve the quality of life that we desire.
We reaffirm our belief in a government of the people, by the people and for the people, and with an understanding and compassionate heart toward all the peoples of the earth, do hereby ordain and establish this constitution for the State of Hawaii. [Am Const Con 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978]

FEDERAL CONSTITUTION ADOPTED
The Constitution of the United States of America is adopted on behalf of the people of the State of Hawaii.

ARTICLE I
BILL OF RIGHTS
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
Section 17.  A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. [Ren Const Con 1978 and election Nov 7, 1978]

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA – BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendment 2 - A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

6716J

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 11:48:56 AM »
Oh yeah... done for both
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

oldfart

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 12:12:29 PM »
 :thumbsup:
What, Me Worry?

likecarry808

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 04:11:21 PM »
Done! What are the Las Vegas odds they vote to kill this silly thing. :popcorn: :crazy: :crazy:

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 07:35:26 AM »
This is my testimony for the bills.  It is very important to keep it personal, use past and current experiences, and to include your contact info and address.  That is what it takes to write effective testimony.


I am OPPOSED to SCR9 because Concealed Carry Weapons is a right everyone should have.

I am a firearms instructor and retired military servicemember with concealed carry weapons permits from Nevada and Arizona. I was able to carry a weapon for self defense while deployed overseas and can currently carry a weapon in many other States on the mainland with my CCW permits which currently have State to State reciprocity over most of the US. I was fortunate that I have never been attacked while overseas or on the mainland. However I was attacked twice here at home in Hawaii. In Kalihi I was carjacked on the road after school one night. In Aiea I was robbed when a gang threatened me with a weapon, assaulted me, and attempted to get my wallet. Fortunately I was able to escape in both situations. I have friends and family who are also afraid of walking alone at night on their way home after work.  I support the carrying of concealed handguns for self-defense and any law abiding person should be able to choose wether to do it or not.

HAWAII DOES NOT ISSUE CCW PERMITS TO THE PUBLIC

The second paragraph in the bill "WHEREAS, the State of Hawaii has allowed the concealed carry of firearm..." is a lie. Hawaii has not issued any Concealed Carry Weapons permits for decades except for a couple that were erroneously issued. Please check with the local police departments and AG so that you can see the statistics for yourself. Or apply for a permit for yourself and see what the process is like. This is a violation of my civil rights. The reasons listed on the bill for denial of permits such as prior criminal history, domestic abuse, physical standards, determination of recklessness, etc are not the reasons used for denial. The HRA conducted a CCW drive where law abiding people applied for permits and none were granted.

THE POLICE WILL NOT ISSUE ANY CCW PERMITS TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY REASON.

Please make a phone call to each of the police chiefs to ask why they will not issue any permits.

I am OPPOSED to SCR9. Please contact me if you have any questions.


Todd xxxxxxxxx
Phone (808) xxx-xxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Aiea, HI 96701


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macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 07:54:53 AM »
:thumbsup:

from the Hawaii State Constitution:
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
Section 17.  A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you not understand?
Remember your Oath of Office and uphold the Constitution of the United States and Hawaii by OPPOSING this Resolution
mahalo

Jl808

Re: FIRE MISSION BY 3/7 1pm: SR7 & SCR9 "Oppose CCW Reciprocity"
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 05:03:10 PM »
For the record....

S 3/8/2018: The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes in PSM were as follows: 4 Aye(s): Senator(s) Nishihara, Wakai, Baker, L. Thielen; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 1 Excused: Senator(s) Ihara.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SCR9_.pdf   
SCR9   Concealed Carry Reciprocity; United States Congress
REQUESTING THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION OF HAWAII AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS TO OPPOSE "CONCEALED CARRY RECIPROCITY" LEGISLATION.      
Oppose.   S. CHANG, BAKER, ESPERO, GALUTERIA, Dela Cruz, Ihara, Inouye, K. Kahele, Kidani, Shimabukuro, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC   

S 3/8/2018: The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes in PSM were as follows: 4 Aye(s): Senator(s) Nishihara, Wakai, Baker, L. Thielen; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 1 Excused: Senator(s) Ihara.   
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2018/bills/SR7_.pdf   
SR7   Concealed Carry Reciprocity; United States Congress   
REQUESTING THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION OF HAWAII AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS TO OPPOSE "CONCEALED CARRY RECIPROCITY" LEGISLATION.      
Oppose.   S. CHANG, BAKER, Ihara, L. Thielen, Wakai   PSM, JDC   
I think, therefore I am armed.
NRA Life Patron member, HRA Life member, HiFiCo Life Member, HDF member

The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.