KHSC Range to be Closed at Night (Read 20203 times)

Inspector

KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« on: March 11, 2018, 02:57:17 PM »
Mind you this is the rumor heard from the RSO's today. So take this with a grain of salt until it becomes reality, if it becomes a reality.

The new chain will be locked across the range road entrance using the new poles installed recently. The poles are installed after the archery range but before the silohuette range access road. They stated this will start on the 21st of this month. The chain will be locked across the road 15 minutes after closing and will be opened 30 minutes before opening hour. IE on the weekends that would be 4:15pm and 7:30am. It also means you can possibly get your vehicle locked in.

This means coming early to save benches is being discouraged. Also heard that the lua may be locked up as well. If people try to come early the vehicles will pile up at the chain with the possibility of overflow parking at the archery range and maybe out towards the road. When I originally heard this rumor several months ago I was told signage would be put up about trespassing. If this is true and if it does occur it may mean one cannot park at the gate and walk in otherwise you would be trespassing. There was no mention of signage this time around.
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London808

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2018, 03:33:52 PM »
Mind you this is the rumor heard from the RSO's today. So take this with a grain of salt until it becomes reality, if it becomes a reality.

The new chain will be locked across the range road entrance using the new poles installed recently. The poles are installed after the archery range but before the silohuette range access road. They stated this will start on the 21st of this month. The chain will be locked across the road 15 minutes after closing and will be opened 30 minutes before opening hour. IE on the weekends that would be 4:15pm and 7:30am. It also means you can possibly get your vehicle locked in.

This means coming early to save benches is being discouraged. Also heard that the lua may be locked up as well. If people try to come early the vehicles will pile up at the chain with the possibility of overflow parking at the archery range and maybe out towards the road. When I originally heard this rumor several months ago I was told signage would be put up about trespassing. If this is true and if it does occur it may mean one cannot park at the gate and walk in otherwise you would be trespassing. There was no mention of signage this time around.

Most park restrooms are locked overnight to prevent damage. It would make sense they lock the park at night as its closed from 4pm-8am anyway.
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armsinc

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2018, 04:09:59 PM »
Mind you this is the rumor heard from the RSO's today. So take this with a grain of salt until it becomes reality, if it becomes a reality.

The new chain will be locked across the range road entrance using the new poles installed recently. The poles are installed after the archery range but before the silohuette range access road. They stated this will start on the 21st of this month. The chain will be locked across the road 15 minutes after closing and will be opened 30 minutes before opening hour. IE on the weekends that would be 4:15pm and 7:30am. It also means you can possibly get your vehicle locked in.

This means coming early to save benches is being discouraged. Also heard that the lua may be locked up as well. If people try to come early the vehicles will pile up at the chain with the possibility of overflow parking at the archery range and maybe out towards the road. When I originally heard this rumor several months ago I was told signage would be put up about trespassing. If this is true and if it does occur it may mean one cannot park at the gate and walk in otherwise you would be trespassing. There was no mention of signage this time around.
It not un common to lock up parks during closed hours and they wouldn't lock people in willy nilly... usually they send a car to alert people....  otherwise people would cut the chain, try to off road around it, shoot the lock....
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ren

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2018, 05:33:57 PM »
I'm guessing that the City is being proactive in the light of recent restroom vandalism. Sad to see that restroom toilets are smashed for no reason. More $$ out of our taxes. That's why we can't have nice stuff...like a world class range
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dogman

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 05:51:12 PM »
There was also dumping of construction debris by bay 1 a couple of months ago. >:( 

macsak

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 06:08:13 PM »
Mind you this is the rumor heard from the RSO's today. So take this with a grain of salt until it becomes reality, if it becomes a reality.

The new chain will be locked across the range road entrance using the new poles installed recently. The poles are installed after the archery range but before the silohuette range access road. They stated this will start on the 21st of this month. The chain will be locked across the road 15 minutes after closing and will be opened 30 minutes before opening hour. IE on the weekends that would be 4:15pm and 7:30am. It also means you can possibly get your vehicle locked in.

This means coming early to save benches is being discouraged. Also heard that the lua may be locked up as well. If people try to come early the vehicles will pile up at the chain with the possibility of overflow parking at the archery range and maybe out towards the road. When I originally heard this rumor several months ago I was told signage would be put up about trespassing. If this is true and if it does occur it may mean one cannot park at the gate and walk in otherwise you would be trespassing. There was no mention of signage this time around.

not a rumor
will be locked at 4:15pm daily

mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 06:24:41 PM »
not a rumor
will be locked at 4:15pm daily

Makes no sense. Example: range closes at 4. How are people supposed to pack up and get out the entrance by 4:15? So people will have to stop shooting early just to make it out the gate.....
Trap range: no new shooters after 3:30, range closes at 4. We have to secure the trap house, secure the office, do the paperwork for the day in 15 minutes? Impossible! Probably the same for the skeet range.
This is going to be interesting...

My car locked in? That chain will get cut real quick.....
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rpoL98

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 06:26:05 PM »
so on weekdays, i.e. Wed, Thurs, Fri, what time will the chain be unlocked?  if the range opens to the public at 12 noon, but LE is using it before that?

Bushido

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 07:50:37 PM »


The new chain will be locked across the range road entrance using the new poles installed recently. The poles are installed after the archery range but before the silohuette range access road. They stated this will start on the 21st of this month. The chain will be locked across the road 15 minutes after closing and will be opened 30 minutes before opening hour. IE on the weekends that would be 4:15pm and 7:30am. It also means you can possibly get your vehicle locked in.



I was told similar info.

mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 07:59:53 PM »
so on weekdays, i.e. Wed, Thurs, Fri, what time will the chain be unlocked?  if the range opens to the public at 12 noon, but LE is using it before that?

Not only that but the trap range opens at 8:30 on Thursdays!
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oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2018, 08:05:33 PM »
Well that sucks.
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mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2018, 09:28:22 PM »
Well that sucks.

Just another way for these shit licks to screw with us..... time to break out my industrial strength bolt cutters....
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oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 09:58:26 PM »
Just another way for these shit licks to screw with us..... time to break out my industrial strength bolt cutters....
....
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shdws

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 06:00:00 AM »
Well there was a ton of empty beer cans and whatever in the portapotties from overnight when I got there Sat AM.  In the shitter portion.  Real classy.  That's going to be fun for the lua guys.

Had some women and girls that looked like they were doing a class and I was pretty embarrassed they were using the same disgusting portapotties.  Looks like there's a few shooters that might rethink going to the range.

oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 06:07:25 AM »
Well there was a ton of empty beer cans and whatever in the portapotties from overnight when I got there Sat AM.  In the shitter portion.  Real classy.  That's going to be fun for the lua guys.

Had some women and girls that looked like they were doing a class and I was pretty embarrassed they were using the same disgusting portapotties.  Looks like there's a few shooters that might rethink going to the range.
...
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Sigh >:(
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oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2018, 06:30:03 AM »
Clearly, 4:15PM is an unreasonably short amount of time to clean up your stuff.
Even the guys that work there don't get out by that time.

I think a lot of public parks close the parking lots at 7PM. That would be a reasonable time to close the gate.
I don't see why the range should be any different.

When does Hanauma close?
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shdws

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2018, 06:42:35 AM »
Clearly, 4:15PM is an unreasonably short amount of time to clean up your stuff.
Even the guys that work there don't get out by that time.

I think a lot of public parks close the parking lots at 7PM. That would be a reasonable time to close the gate.
I don't see why the range should be any different.

When does Hanauma close?

I agree, way too short.  Problem is, range hours could be shortened rather than extending closing to accommodate the 415.  One could argue it's usually the least busy time already and would affect the fewest.

Sadly, we all know we'll never be free of these kinds of savages causing problems for the rest.


macsak

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2018, 07:02:35 AM »
When does Hanauma close?

this is big
tourists park in the lot and walk to hanauma
when a few of them get their cars locked in, and there is no one to contact to retrieve their cars and get back to their hotels, it's going to be a big headache for the city/state

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2018, 12:05:51 PM »
Sucks. . .

Any idea what prompted this?  I noticed the porta potties the week of the revolver shoot.  I recall the men's restroom being in "normal" shape.  I also recall the nice handsoap (Thanks Mrs. Changemyoil!). 

I would assume that there are folks going there after hours and causing problems.  Any reports of vandalism or thefts from the sheds?  I haven't heard anything, but I also had not gone to the range for a while until the last couple of weeks.  It's not like the closed chain is going to prevent any or much of that.  Might even encourage those to stay in there over night as the chain would also prevent access by LE. 

bass monkey

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2018, 12:13:52 PM »
I thought most parks were sunrise to sunset?