KHSC Range to be Closed at Night (Read 20172 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2018, 12:31:44 PM »
I thought most parks were sunrise to sunset?

That's when the archery range is open.  As long as you can see the target, you can use your bow.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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macsak

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2018, 01:58:25 PM »
Sucks. . .

Any idea what prompted this?  I noticed the porta potties the week of the revolver shoot.  I recall the men's restroom being in "normal" shape.  I also recall the nice handsoap (Thanks Mrs. Changemyoil!). 

I would assume that there are folks going there after hours and causing problems.  Any reports of vandalism or thefts from the sheds?  I haven't heard anything, but I also had not gone to the range for a while until the last couple of weeks.  It's not like the closed chain is going to prevent any or much of that.  Might even encourage those to stay in there over night as the chain would also prevent access by LE.

homeless people, vandalism, dumping
just general after hours shenanigans

stangzilla

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2018, 02:14:34 PM »
if people still want to vandalize the bathrooms, all they have to do is climb over the door.  there is space to get in.
their lock isn't full proof, only fool proof
but it sucks for us

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2018, 02:49:23 PM »
homeless people, vandalism, dumping
just general after hours shenanigans
I see.  Don't see the chain preventing all of that. 

macsak

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2018, 03:06:11 PM »
I see.  Don't see the chain preventing all of that.

"somebody's gotta do something"

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2018, 03:35:11 PM »
"somebody's gotta do something"
Yeah, I hear ya. . .  :(

Again, it will only stop law abiding folks from enjoying an activity that they love.  Well, not stop, but in this case hinder.  Then again, I suspect the chain won't last very long. . .

macsak

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2018, 03:40:36 PM »
I see.  Don't see the chain preventing all of that.

next time you see me in person, ask me the story about HDF staff camping overnight during shooting sports fair...

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2018, 03:43:49 PM »
next time you see me in person, ask me the story about HDF staff camping overnight during shooting sports fair...
Ok.  Maybe at the gun show this weekend. 

I've never stayed over night, but I know some folks that have camped over before Friday night before start of SSF and Sat night in between.  They didn't mention anything about folks coming around.  They just mentioned how noisy it was with the winds that one year. haha

zippz

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2018, 03:56:30 PM »
I don't got a problem with the closure.  If you guys do then start a petition to adjust the hours on the weekends.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2018, 04:04:28 PM »
Now people will have to collect their "ricochet" evidence during cease-fires.   

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2018, 04:40:31 PM »
I don't got a problem with the closure.  If you guys do then start a petition to adjust the hours on the weekends.
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clubs like to take full advantage of the shooting hours since we are so stifled.

I think the gate could be locked whenever they close Hanauma Bay
What, Me Worry?

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2018, 05:57:04 PM »
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clubs like to take full advantage of the shooting hours since we are so stifled.

I think the gate could be locked whenever they close Hanauma Bay
Or give clubs the key or some other way to access beyond “normal” hours.

oldfart

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2018, 09:25:38 PM »
Or give clubs the key or some other way to access beyond “normal” hours.
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Yes, that too.
What, Me Worry?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2018, 09:38:28 PM »
Or give clubs the key or some other way to access beyond “normal” hours.

Camp Paumalu Girl Scout Camp on the North Shore has a gate to prevent people from trespassing and to avoid two-way traffic.  Parents with scouts have to arrive by the meet-up time, and a leader with the combination unlocks the gate.  Last one through the gate locks it.  Inbound and outbound traffic has to be coordinated because the road is only wide enough for one-way traffic.

Anyway, a combination lock with frequent (weekly?) changes and a distribution email/text list would be a solution.  Just make sure nobody shares the combo.  If they do, their group should lose combo privileges.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2018, 07:40:02 PM »
Was told today that Mike M was asked about clubs who need to get in early to set up and who close their functions at 4 which will leave only 15 minutes to  put their gear away, do books ( skeet, trap etc) amongst other things to secure their ranges and leave the range by 4:15 is impossible. He said that they “need to adjust their activities”. I'm sure he getting this bullshit from those above him and he’s only the messenger but it’s still bullshit......... :wtf:
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mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 07:42:46 PM »
Camp Paumalu Girl Scout Camp on the North Shore has a gate to prevent people from trespassing and to avoid two-way traffic.  Parents with scouts have to arrive by the meet-up time, and a leader with the combination unlocks the gate.  Last one through the gate locks it.  Inbound and outbound traffic has to be coordinated because the road is only wide enough for one-way traffic.

Anyway, a combination lock with frequent (weekly?) changes and a distribution email/text list would be a solution.  Just make sure nobody shares the combo.  If they do, their group should lose combo privileges.

That makes sense but we’re dealing with idiots in C&C Parks.... belligerent dirt wads.....
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 10:04:53 PM »
That makes sense but we’re dealing with idiots in C&C Parks.... belligerent dirt wads.....

I feel sorry for the first employee who shows up late to unlock the gate.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2018, 11:54:24 AM »
I feel sorry for the first employee who shows up late to unlock the gate.

Solution = bolt cutters.....
When asked, pull a SGT Schultz  :crazy:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

mrgaf

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2018, 11:54:39 AM »
I feel sorry for the first employee who shows up late to unlock the gate.

Solution = bolt cutters.....
When asked, pull a SGT Schultz  :crazy:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

stangzilla

Re: KHSC Range to be Closed at Night
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2018, 12:18:07 PM »
The city park by my house has plenty homeless living there, right outside the door of the rec center
They don't even open the rec center anymore bc of them
There's sign saying park closed 1030 pm
Why don't they lock that park up too?