7.62x39 - What’s your favorite? (Read 9802 times)

drck1000

7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« on: March 23, 2018, 01:39:34 PM »
What’s your favorite 7.62x39 ammo? For whatever reason. Price, accuracy, etc.

I’m gearing up to shoot my AK more as I mod one of them. I have a bunch of WPA and a lesser amount of Norinco China Sports ammo. I got the Norinco with an AK I got from an estate sale and it was a mix of either steel or lead core and FMJ. I’m really looking forward to trying the Norinco.

I’ve also shot various of the “Bear” AK ammo as well as Tula. For me, I’m looking for closest I can get to $200/1000 price, functions well and “good enough” accuracy (16” x 16” at 200 yards).

rklapp

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2018, 03:36:57 PM »
Kaleo has stuff but haven't tried GT. Personally I reload even though the AK is rough on brass.

7.62 x 39 AK 123gr FMJ BT Russian (Golden Tiger) -- 7 cases (1000 rd cases)
• Before tax ppr -- 25.1 cents
• Subtotal for box of 20 -- $5.01   
• Total w/tax for box of 20 -- $5.25 
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Inspector

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2018, 05:01:29 PM »
What’s your favorite 7.62x39 ammo? For whatever reason. Price, accuracy, etc.

I’m gearing up to shoot my AK more as I mod one of them. I have a bunch of WPA and a lesser amount of Norinco China Sports ammo. I got the Norinco with an AK I got from an estate sale and it was a mix of either steel or lead core and FMJ. I’m really looking forward to trying the Norinco.

I’ve also shot various of the “Bear” AK ammo as well as Tula. For me, I’m looking for closest I can get to $200/1000 price, functions well and “good enough” accuracy (16” x 16” at 200 yards).
I can't help you as I don't own an AK. Unlike you, I own real guns.  :P :P :P   Sorry, couldn't help myself.

I still have a small batch of Norinco 9mm. I had 14k or 15k rounds at one time. Best practice ammo I ever had. Accurate reliable cheap and loaded hot. I would guess it was in the +P range but it is by feel only. I have not chronographed the ammo. If the 9mm I have is anything like your AK ammo, it might prove to be very good ammo. Too bad it is no longer available in the U.S.
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rklapp

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2018, 05:05:25 PM »
An AK shooting 9mm?  ???
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Inspector

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2018, 05:06:36 PM »
An AK shooting 9mm?  ???
Where did you get that from?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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rklapp

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2018, 05:23:20 PM »
Where did you get that from?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sorry, just being dense again.  :D   :thumbsup:
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Inspector

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 05:25:56 PM »
Sorry, just being dense again.  :D   :thumbsup:
No worries. I was doing that all day yesterday.  :wacko:  :wacko: :wacko:
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drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 05:37:29 PM »
Kaleo has stuff but haven't tried GT. Personally I reload even though the AK is rough on brass.

7.62 x 39 AK 123gr FMJ BT Russian (Golden Tiger) -- 7 cases (1000 rd cases)
• Before tax ppr -- 25.1 cents
• Subtotal for box of 20 -- $5.01   
• Total w/tax for box of 20 -- $5.25
Yeah, I saw. I heard good things about that Golden Tiger ammo.

drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2018, 05:37:58 PM »
I can't help you as I don't own an AK. Unlike you, I own real guns.  :P :P :P   Sorry, couldn't help myself.

I still have a small batch of Norinco 9mm. I had 14k or 15k rounds at one time. Best practice ammo I ever had. Accurate reliable cheap and loaded hot. I would guess it was in the +P range but it is by feel only. I have not chronographed the ammo. If the 9mm I have is anything like your AK ammo, it might prove to be very good ammo. Too bad it is no longer available in the U.S.
Real guns you say? Hmm...

TooFewPews

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 01:34:29 PM »
Yeah, I saw. I heard good things about that Golden Tiger ammo.

I doubt that you'll be able to find AK ammo for $200/1000 since those are mainland prices.  you will be lucky if you can get it for around $250/1000 (25 cents per round) locally.

if you reload, you'll probably spend about 12 cents per round on powder (about 9 cents) and primer (3 cents).  if you find a bullet that is 13 cents per, then that puts you at 25 cents per round, not including the cost of brass.

most bullets in this caliber will realistically be 18 cents per piece at a minimum.  this means that you're already at 30 cents per round, not including cost of brass.

therefore, 25-26 cents per round locally just makes sense.  and the best part about it is that you don't feel bad if you can't find your brass in the grass.

drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 01:52:27 PM »
I doubt that you'll be able to find AK ammo for $200/1000 since those are mainland prices.  you will be lucky if you can get it for around $250/1000 (25 cents per round) locally.

if you reload, you'll probably spend about 12 cents per round on powder (about 9 cents) and primer (3 cents).  if you find a bullet that is 13 cents per, then that puts you at 25 cents per round, not including the cost of brass.

most bullets in this caliber will realistically be 18 cents per piece at a minimum.  this means that you're already at 30 cents per round, not including cost of brass.

therefore, 25-26 cents per round locally just makes sense.  and the best part about it is that you don't feel bad if you can't find your brass in the grass.
I'm looking for closest I can get to $200/1000.  I've seen as low as $230ish locally in the past year.  Willing to pay around $250ish range though.  Similar thinking for when I shop for 9 mm and 5.56/.223.  I have a pricing range that goes from "I'm gonna buy, even if I have a good amount" to "I'm willing to buy when I'm running low". 

Yeah, I do check out what's available online that my friend on the mainland can get, and try not to get too depressed.  Haha.  But I try to be understanding of the constraints of ammo availability and pricing in Hawaii. 

Drakiir84

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2018, 08:17:06 AM »
I've wanted to pick up either a Galil ACE or a Rifle Dynamics AK for a while but can never bring myself to "pull the trigger".
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2018, 08:53:16 AM »
I've wanted to pick up either a Galil ACE or a Rifle Dynamics AK for a while but can never bring myself to "pull the trigger".
You should!  I've shot the ACE and it was nice.  I've only seen videos of the Rifle Dynamics AKs and they seem good, but quite pricey. 

Do more classes!  You'll have the $$$ in no time.  Well, you'd have to squirrel it away from your wifey and maybe skimp on diapers.   ;D

Drakiir84

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2018, 09:11:30 AM »
You should!  I've shot the ACE and it was nice.  I've only seen videos of the Rifle Dynamics AKs and they seem good, but quite pricey. 

Do more classes!  You'll have the $$$ in no time.  Well, you'd have to squirrel it away from your wifey and maybe skimp on diapers.   ;D

lol... I've been trying to do a class/month to pay for whatever ammo and accessories I want.  25% off a Safariland 6354DO was still $176.34 lolol.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2018, 09:35:14 AM »
lol... I've been trying to do a class/month to pay for whatever ammo and accessories I want.  25% off a Safariland 6354DO was still $176.34 lolol.
Yeah, that holster is pricey.  Thankfully, my 17 with RDS fits pretty much all the same holsters since I don't have the comp.  Just that the serrations are more aggressive, so I've noticed that they tend to shave off some kydex here and there. . .

Drakiir84

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2018, 09:37:59 AM »
Yeah, that holster is pricey.  Thankfully, my 17 with RDS fits pretty much all the same holsters since I don't have the comp.  Just that the serrations are more aggressive, so I've noticed that they tend to shave off some kydex here and there. . .

Yeah I got the 6354 for a G34 so it fits my 19 with comp and my 17.  Awesome active retention holster.  Now I can go play on jungle gyms with my kit without having to worry about shit falling out.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

stangzilla

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2018, 10:51:52 AM »
OGC has RAS fmjbt on sale $240 / case
I've never shot that before

I usually get what's cheap. Tula or wpa.
Brass case is just too expensive
I don't expect my ak or ar7.62x39 to be tack drivers
So whatever functions reliably is what I use

drck1000

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2018, 11:47:52 AM »
OGC has RAS fmjbt on sale $240 / case
I've never shot that before

I usually get what's cheap. Tula or wpa.
Brass case is just too expensive
I don't expect my ak or ar7.62x39 to be tack drivers
So whatever functions reliably is what I use
Yeah. I saw their post.  I did some research on the Red Army stuff and seems like it's pretty crappy.  But those reviews aren't recent and like much of that kind of ammo, depends on sourcing.  Russian, Romanian, etc.

I'm also not expecting tack driving ammo.  6-8" at 50 yards is "about right".  I haven't shoot that much7.62x39, but I like the WPA stuff and many of the bears.  Brown and Silver I think.  I'd love to try more Tula.  That used to be readily available in both 7.62x39 and .223, but haven't seen as much recently.  Reliable function is also very important for me.

Reviews I read on the RAS was hard for me to decide on overall quality.   There are lots of the "well, I've shot a box of 20 and it's crap ammo, can't hit a 16" plate at 50 yards" types and then a few "I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds and maybe 10 duds per 1000" types.  Lots of the former, but only a few of the latter.  I am still tempted to try it out though.   ;D

aklovr

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2018, 03:54:29 PM »
Really like the Red Army variety due to sealed primers and projectiles for long storage. RAS Accuracy has been right there with both Wolf and Tula for me. Have always wanted to try the Golden Tiger, not sure who carries locally though.

michaelkih

Re: 7.62x39 - What’s your favorite?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2018, 05:40:04 PM »
Golden Tiger is all I buy.  Less than $200/1000 too.  Russian, sealed, and a coattail bullet.  Hard to beat.