Firearms Training - Sharing Experience (Read 135794 times)

WTF?Shane

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #140 on: January 27, 2020, 02:41:00 PM »
Yesterday, I had a 9 mm FMJ round that wouldn't chamber.  It has some sort of nick on the bullet head or something.  Of course, a buddy was making fun of me for that.  Later, his AR mag got hung up.   :rofl:  It happens. . .

What gun were you shooting?

I was loading up mags Friday night to shoot on Saturday. I noticed one bullet (Speer Lawman) with a good sized nick. I figured if it was good if it passed QC. Everything fed and shot perfect out of my 19.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #141 on: January 27, 2020, 04:26:09 PM »
What gun were you shooting?

I was loading up mags Friday night to shoot on Saturday. I noticed one bullet (Speer Lawman) with a good sized nick. I figured if it was good if it passed QC. Everything fed and shot perfect out of my 19.
It was a Glock 19 and Blazer Brass.  I was trying to chamber a single round and the slide hung up.  I thought at first it may have been something with the mag, like dirt of something getting pushed up by the follower.  Dropped the mag and didn't notice any debris, so I pulled the round from the mag and noticed the nick.  Later, I put that round second to the last in the mag and it chambered and fired just fine. 

I've been shooting a lot of Blazer Brass lately, including matches.  Hadn't seen that, or at least I didn't notice.

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #142 on: January 27, 2020, 09:07:58 PM »
What gun were you shooting?

I was loading up mags Friday night to shoot on Saturday. I noticed one bullet (Speer Lawman) with a good sized nick. I figured if it was good if it passed QC. Everything fed and shot perfect out of my 19.
He's the ammo bum. Finds unfired rounds on the ground and shoots them later.

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macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #143 on: January 27, 2020, 09:33:48 PM »
He's the ammo bum. Finds unfired rounds on the ground and shoots them later.

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drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #144 on: January 27, 2020, 10:14:20 PM »
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Clips

And gotta watch out for the poof poof stuff, so I only shoot ammo that I bring to the range. Good for smaller than jabon sized groups. 😝
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drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2020, 03:06:02 PM »
Range day this past weekend with time dedicated to carbine in the morning and then I worked on RDS handgun a little in the afternoon.  Cool morning session, which was very nice.  Some say "if it ain't raining, it ain't training", but I absolutely love the weather we've been having of late.  Hope it continues well into spring!

Some notes:

1) Focus was on sling in combination with the carbine.  Many folks don't get to shoot their carbine with slings very much, especially with limited range facilities on Oahu.  While I have had a good amount of exposure to shooting carbine with sling, always good to practice.  Over the years, I have molded my sling setup from a couple of influential instructors.  While I am always open to alternate solutions, it was good to see that my setup worked with what we worked on yesterday.

2) Two key things that I've noticed with folks who are shooting carbines (AR, AK, PCC, etc) with slings for the first time (or not that many range sessions) is setting up the sling size/length to ensure they are enabling shooting and not disabling.  First is enough space to work the charging handle and second is enough slack to be able to shoot in the desired positions/sides.  I am also not immune to that.  In a carbine skill builder about a year ago, I decided to try a stock position longer than I had previously and that adjustment without commensurate adjustment in the sling made for transitioning to support side very challenging. 

3) Was doing a good amount of shooting from support side and I am getting more used to the ambi features of my carbine.  While I am still probably more used to shooting with the "standard" safety, I've found that I like the ambi safety when shooting support side.  I've also found that I like the ambi charging handle as well.  Reloads on my support side was tougher than I recall previously, mostly to the reach to get to the spare mag.  I don't think I switched the pouch position much, so maybe I got fatter. . .  :( I think I actually lost weight, but anyways, something to work on in future.

4) Shooting with the RDS handgun continues to improve.  That said, I think much of my expectations with RDS handguns are skewed by ease of shooting RDS with rifle.  Worked on both reducing the draw time to first shot as well as multiple shots.  Was challenging myself a bit shooting on a 2" diameter shoot-n-see at about 10 yards.  Hits opened up when pushing times, but always good to work on fundamentals. 

macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2020, 04:07:01 PM »
Range day this past weekend with time dedicated to carbine in the morning and then I worked on RDS handgun a little in the afternoon.  Cool morning session, which was very nice.  Some say "if it ain't raining, it ain't training", but I absolutely love the weather we've been having of late.  Hope it continues well into spring!

Some notes:

1) Focus was on sling in combination with the carbine.  Many folks don't get to shoot their carbine with slings very much, especially with limited range facilities on Oahu.  While I have had a good amount of exposure to shooting carbine with sling, always good to practice.  Over the years, I have molded my sling setup from a couple of influential instructors.  While I am always open to alternate solutions, it was good to see that my setup worked with what we worked on yesterday.

2) Two key things that I've noticed with folks who are shooting carbines (AR, AK, PCC, etc) with slings for the first time (or not that many range sessions) is setting up the sling size/length to ensure they are enabling shooting and not disabling.  First is enough space to work the charging handle and second is enough slack to be able to shoot in the desired positions/sides.  I am also not immune to that.  In a carbine skill builder about a year ago, I decided to try a stock position longer than I had previously and that adjustment without commensurate adjustment in the sling made for transitioning to support side very challenging. 

3) Was doing a good amount of shooting from support side and I am getting more used to the ambi features of my carbine.  While I am still probably more used to shooting with the "standard" safety, I've found that I like the ambi safety when shooting support side.  I've also found that I like the ambi charging handle as well.  Reloads on my support side was tougher than I recall previously, mostly to the reach to get to the spare mag.  I don't think I switched the pouch position much, so maybe I got fatter. . .  :( I think I actually lost weight, but anyways, something to work on in future.

4) Shooting with the RDS handgun continues to improve.  That said, I think much of my expectations with RDS handguns are skewed by ease of shooting RDS with rifle.  Worked on both reducing the draw time to first shot as well as multiple shots.  Was challenging myself a bit shooting on a 2" diameter shoot-n-see at about 10 yards.  Hits opened up when pushing times, but always good to work on fundamentals.

shocking that it was easier to do ambi things with ambi equipment...

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2020, 06:40:23 PM »
shocking that it was easier to do ambi things with ambi equipment...
One day, when you grow up and graduate to owning a firearm, maybe you’ll understand  :P

 :rofl:

When I first got the ambi selector, I found myself rarely using the ambi/right side. Recently, I’ve found myself using it more and more.

I’ve been so used to non-ambi stuff that I still find myself sticking “old ways”, even with ambi features. With left hand shooting, I’ve found it fastest or more efficient to go with my firing hand thumb to take safety off (ambi selector enabled) and to go back on safe with the trigger finger of my firing hand.

macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #148 on: February 10, 2020, 07:20:18 PM »
One day, when you grow up and graduate to owning a firearm, maybe you’ll understand  :P

 :rofl:

When I first got the ambi selector, I found myself rarely using the ambi/right side. Recently, I’ve found myself using it more and more.

I’ve been so used to non-ambi stuff that I still find myself sticking “old ways”, even with ambi features. With left hand shooting, I’ve found it fastest or more efficient to go with my firing hand thumb to take safety off (ambi selector enabled) and to go back on safe with the trigger finger of my firing hand.

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changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #149 on: February 11, 2020, 09:40:18 AM »


When I first got the ambi selector, I found myself rarely using the ambi/right side. Recently, I’ve found myself using it more and more.


Funny story, when I had to replace the wife's defaultive ELF trigger, we had the stock safety.  Only after the install, she then said she wanted an ambi one.  So I had to redo what I did when installing the new trigger ELF sent us free of charge and a more updated version also.  I called them and was transferred direct to the owner (Brian IIRC) which was cool.  He helped trouble shoot me with the current one.  Then said he will just mail me a new one.  And that I can keep the old one.

Long story short, she doesn't use the ambi safety (she's a lefty).  So all that effort put to waste.

I do find the ambi safety easier to engage/disengage than the stock one.  But I don't have an ambi on my rifle.  I don't want to get into the habit because if I have to use someone elses rifle and they don't have an ambi, that split second may cost me.

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #150 on: February 11, 2020, 09:45:08 AM »


2) Two key things that I've noticed with folks who are shooting carbines (AR, AK, PCC, etc) with slings for the first time (or not that many range sessions) is setting up the sling size/length to ensure they are enabling shooting and not disabling.  First is enough space to work the charging handle and second is enough slack to be able to shoot in the desired positions/sides.  I am also not immune to that.  In a carbine skill builder about a year ago, I decided to try a stock position longer than I had previously and that adjustment without commensurate adjustment in the sling made for transitioning to support side very challenging. 


I may have to play with my sling position.  when I reload, I'm in the high ready position.  And when the sling is attached, I can't be as high.  So my middle finger ends up rubbing on the trigger guard.  So much that I get a blister mid class.  I have a Geiselle handguard so 1 QD point is attached on the rail QD slot.  The other end is on my butt stock.  I have a Blue Force Gear VTAC sling.  I thought about lengthening it, but it's let out as much as can be.

DRCK, HDF carbine skill builder this month is requiring slings.  First time they're requiring slings for a non combo skill builder.  IDK if too late to sign up.  Class might not be as advanced as the one you attend though.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #151 on: February 11, 2020, 10:14:22 AM »
Funny story, when I had to replace the wife's defaultive ELF trigger, we had the stock safety.  Only after the install, she then said she wanted an ambi one.  So I had to redo what I did when installing the new trigger ELF sent us free of charge and a more updated version also.  I called them and was transferred direct to the owner (Brian IIRC) which was cool.  He helped trouble shoot me with the current one.  Then said he will just mail me a new one.  And that I can keep the old one.

Long story short, she doesn't use the ambi safety (she's a lefty).  So all that effort put to waste.

I do find the ambi safety easier to engage/disengage than the stock one.  But I don't have an ambi on my rifle.  I don't want to get into the habit because if I have to use someone elses rifle and they don't have an ambi, that split second may cost me.
He helped trouble shoot you?  Or the trigger?  I thought you said it's the arrow, not the Indian. . .  :rofl: [i keed, i keed]

Maybe she doesn't use the safety yet.  Maybe have her dedicate some time to forcing herself to trying it and see. 

I see your point on the habit part of ambi features.  I personally teeter totter on that fence from time to time.  However, in general, any performance benefit or enabling feature is something I am interested in trying for myself. 

I may have to play with my sling position.  when I reload, I'm in the high ready position.  And when the sling is attached, I can't be as high.  So my middle finger ends up rubbing on the trigger guard.  So much that I get a blister mid class.  I have a Geiselle handguard so 1 QD point is attached on the rail QD slot.  The other end is on my butt stock.  I have a Blue Force Gear VTAC sling.  I thought about lengthening it, but it's let out as much as can be.

DRCK, HDF carbine skill builder this month is requiring slings.  First time they're requiring slings for a non combo skill builder.  IDK if too late to sign up.  Class might not be as advanced as the one you attend though.
That's the idea I was getting at.  If the sling is not enabling the primary function (or one of the enabling function in the reload), then that's no good.  In your case, sounds like more of discomfort than anything.  Maybe you need tougher skin on your hands. . .  ;D

I have a couple BFG VCAS slings.  One padded and one non.  I don't really use either and mostly have them at this point if someone else doesn't have a sling.  Let me know if you want to borrow one.  They have QDs on both ends and when I did used them, they had plenty of real estate left to lengthen. 

Thanks for the heads up on the HDF shoot.  Last time I shot a carbine skill builder with them, I used my sling.  I don't think I can make it this month.  Whether there is training on fundamentals to more advanced, I am always down.  Mostly a matter of time these days. 

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #152 on: February 11, 2020, 10:19:30 AM »
He helped trouble shoot you?  Or the trigger?  I thought you said it's the arrow, not the Indian. . .  :rofl: [i keed, i keed]

Maybe she doesn't use the safety yet.  Maybe have her dedicate some time to forcing herself to trying it and see. 



She has shot her rifle a bunch since it's been built.  And I watch to see if she used the ambi safety and she doesn't.  She even mentioned to me that she doesn't use it and prefers the stock one. #facepalm.  But I can't complain to her because it might demotivate.  I just bitch to you guys about it.

The blister isn't that big of a deal.  Cause if I get a longer sling, then it will dangle more when running.  Right now it's perfect when I tighten it.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #153 on: February 11, 2020, 10:44:10 AM »
She has shot her rifle a bunch since it's been built.  And I watch to see if she used the ambi safety and she doesn't.  She even mentioned to me that she doesn't use it and prefers the stock one. #facepalm.  But I can't complain to her because it might demotivate.  I just bitch to you guys about it.

The blister isn't that big of a deal.  Cause if I get a longer sling, then it will dangle more when running.  Right now it's perfect when I tighten it.
Yeah, fine line between what is motivation or criticism. 

Regarding the sling, I am having a hard time visualizing.  You're using a 2-point.  When you are shooting, is the slider tightened?  Or extended? 

Not the sling I use, nor how I utilize my sling, but here's a good video on setup for 2-pt sling.  Pretty close to how I setup when I did use the VCAS.



I tried to find the video of the setup for the sling that I am currently using, but I can't seem to find it.  I believe they are currently in the process of changing to a different manufacturer, so probably the reason why the video isn't up at this point (since it referenced the original manufacturer). 

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #154 on: February 11, 2020, 11:22:18 AM »


Regarding the sling, I am having a hard time visualizing.  You're using a 2-point.  When you are shooting, is the slider tightened?  Or extended? 

Not the sling I use, nor how I utilize my sling, but here's a good video on setup for 2-pt sling.  Pretty close to how I setup when I did use the VCAS.



I tried to find the video of the setup for the sling that I am currently using, but I can't seem to find it.  I believe they are currently in the process of changing to a different manufacturer, so probably the reason why the video isn't up at this point (since it referenced the original manufacturer).

Sling is fully extended when shooting, that tab is let go all the way.  Then when running, pulled tight.

https://geissele.com/super-modular-rail-mk14-m-lokr.html

QD is in the hole at the upper portion of the rail (the hole).  Maybe I gotta move it forward more.  Never got around to buying another QD attachment point because I only use the sling once a year.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2020, 11:43:48 AM »
Sling is fully extended when shooting, that tab is let go all the way.  Then when running, pulled tight.

https://geissele.com/super-modular-rail-mk14-m-lokr.html

QD is in the hole at the upper portion of the rail (the hole).  Maybe I gotta move it forward more.  Never got around to buying another QD attachment point because I only use the sling once a year.
I think you're onto something there. . . :hmm:

 :rofl:

But seriously. . .

I attach the sling further out on the rail than that, but I have a rifle that I've used the QD point in the handguard in a similar spot as your rail (at the 3/9 oclock positions). 

When you said  "I thought about lengthening it, but it's let out as much as can be", did you mean you can't add slack to the overall sling length by adjusting the tri-glides at each end?  Or that when you have the adjustment tab/buckle all the way out, it's not enough space? 

Anyways, I have an extra Mlock QD mount.  My BCM upper came with one and I had already ordered a separate one.  You can have it to try it out.  At min, you can have it available to try different attachment positions to facilitate the HDF folks getting you sorted out. 

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2020, 01:02:46 PM »
I think you're onto something there. . . :hmm:

 :rofl:

But seriously. . .

I attach the sling further out on the rail than that, but I have a rifle that I've used the QD point in the handguard in a similar spot as your rail (at the 3/9 oclock positions). 

When you said  "I thought about lengthening it, but it's let out as much as can be", did you mean you can't add slack to the overall sling length by adjusting the tri-glides at each end?  Or that when you have the adjustment tab/buckle all the way out, it's not enough space? 

Anyways, I have an extra Mlock QD mount.  My BCM upper came with one and I had already ordered a separate one.  You can have it to try it out.  At min, you can have it available to try different attachment positions to facilitate the HDF folks getting you sorted out.

The slack is let out at the tri-glides at each end.  Thanks for the vid, when he switches from strong side to support side, you can see the sling choke him.  Mine does the same, but I also have the padded VTAC one, plus wearing a plate carrier. Then add sweat on the neck so the material sticks more.

I'll go home tonight and take some pics.

On a side note, I have a single point that I attach to my Magpul end plate via a clip.  This sling is for when SHTF at home.  Not worried about running and the rifle dangling and hitting my nuts.  But I want some retention. It's fast, clip on and clip off.

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2020, 06:37:49 PM »
Sling

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drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2020, 07:02:36 PM »
The slack is let out at the tri-glides at each end.  Thanks for the vid, when he switches from strong side to support side, you can see the sling choke him.  Mine does the same, but I also have the padded VTAC one, plus wearing a plate carrier. Then add sweat on the neck so the material sticks more.

I'll go home tonight and take some pics.

On a side note, I have a single point that I attach to my Magpul end plate via a clip.  This sling is for when SHTF at home.  Not worried about running and the rifle dangling and hitting my nuts.  But I want some retention. It's fast, clip on and clip off.
If you have a BFG VTAC, you’ve got a quite a unique sling...

For shits and giggles, I adjusted my unpadded VCAS and put on my rifle with the QD close to the receiver and there’s plenty of room. I mean you “tik”, but not “dat tik”  :o


drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2020, 07:07:04 PM »
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The adjuster is all the way forward in that pic.

I thought you had QD on the stock as well, but you have it looped through. Tough to tell from the pic how much length you lost via that, but you should still have plenty of room. I’ve seen that sling work well for pretty big dudes and the front was attached to near the muzzle end of the rail.