Firearms Training - Sharing Experience (Read 135724 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #320 on: February 14, 2022, 08:43:49 AM »
Took a HRA pistol skill builder (SB) yesterday.  It was fun, we shot steel 100% of the time. From distances 7 yards  or so.  We did under vehicle simulation shooting heights, shoot from behind cover/concealment, and all were at steel.  Which I really enjoy because I like to hear the ping.  Things I've learned

1) When reloading from behind cover/concealment, don't keep yourself sticking out. Go back behind it and reload there.  Then pop back out and shoot, and if possible, don't pop out from the same spot, keep the bad guy guessing where you will be popping out from.  Also factor in if there is a threat above you, because that may determine how far back from the cover you will be shooting from (depth).

2) I dry fired shooting from my back, but never had the opportunity to do it live.  And when dry firing, it was a straight shot. We did shooting from behind a barrier (cover) on our backs. So when shifting from left side to right side, be aware of your knees/feet. You don't wanna shoot them. Vs. shooting straight, your knees and feet are spaced out to your left and right, so not much worry.

3) Gear placement is fine doing these new things.  So no change needs to be done.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #321 on: February 16, 2022, 12:43:24 PM »
Took a HRA pistol skill builder (SB) yesterday.  It was fun, we shot steel 100% of the time. From distances 7 yards  or so.  We did under vehicle simulation shooting heights, shoot from behind cover/concealment, and all were at steel.  Which I really enjoy because I like to hear the ping.  Things I've learned

1) When reloading from behind cover/concealment, don't keep yourself sticking out. Go back behind it and reload there.  Then pop back out and shoot, and if possible, don't pop out from the same spot, keep the bad guy guessing where you will be popping out from.  Also factor in if there is a threat above you, because that may determine how far back from the cover you will be shooting from (depth).

2) I dry fired shooting from my back, but never had the opportunity to do it live.  And when dry firing, it was a straight shot. We did shooting from behind a barrier (cover) on our backs. So when shifting from left side to right side, be aware of your knees/feet. You don't wanna shoot them. Vs. shooting straight, your knees and feet are spaced out to your left and right, so not much worry.

3) Gear placement is fine doing these new things.  So no change needs to be done.
Cool.  I used to shoot/train with that group often, but haven't in the past many months due to work stuff.  Hopefully I will be able to make it out to the one end Feb, or next one in March.

1) Also be mindful of exposure of limbs, particularly lower body, esp if you don't need to. 
2) Shooting from supine is an interesting situation, but if you think about it, quite realistic.  One way to train the "side to side" you mentioned is to have one of those large plastic barrels.  But yeah, don't shoot your feet, or legs if you have them bent.  :o  Also can be interesting if your belt is setup like mind with some thicker elements on the back, like a med kit.  It adds a different "pivot" point, which to me, is NOT helpful.   ;D
3) Oh, you can certainly buy new gear at any time.   8)

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #322 on: February 16, 2022, 01:24:28 PM »

3) Oh, you can certainly buy new gear at any time.   8)

Mrs. CMO is asking about a plate carrier. But her tiddies are 1 of her concerns. RMA makes 1 for women, but IDK the price. I told her since she would only wear it at most once a month, a standard curve shouldn't be an issue.  Women in the military wear them all the time. But they do have that new curved plates for females. IDK if it's distributed to all or just a select unit.  If they made 1 in purple, she would have had it years ago.

She bought a new range belt, KOR brand or something. She got it in Vegas.

aletheuo137

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #323 on: February 17, 2022, 08:23:52 AM »
How to Shoot Around Corners... sort of

https://rumble.com/vuyhy4-how-to-shoot-around-corners...-sort-of.html

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RSN172

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #324 on: February 17, 2022, 03:21:53 PM »
No need cover, concealment or protective vest.  Make like Dirty Harry.  Just walk up to the perp and pop um.
Happily living in Puna

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #325 on: February 22, 2022, 11:28:42 AM »
Did a MPPL Steel match for the 1st time this weekend. Had fun. Mrs CMO cost me more rounds than I brought, so I had to borrow from a friend.

Overall I did average because I was new and didn't push it.  Went at a comfortable pace. Also no warm up, I wanted to start cold on purpose.  Did the production group, as my pistol is not upgraded. IDK if the hood on my holster made a diff or not, prob added 1/4 second or something to each string.

Each stage was min 25 rounds used if you don't miss. I would say on average I used 30-35rds extra per stage.  I do enjoy shooting steel, so I would do it again if it's steel. If it's the normal cardboard, I would pass.

Also 1 person had a squib load and luckily the RO caught it before it went bad. HIFICO has the vid posted.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #326 on: February 22, 2022, 12:35:18 PM »
1) Did a MPPL Steel match for the 1st time this weekend. Had fun. Mrs CMO cost me more rounds than I brought, so I had to borrow from a friend.

2) Overall I did average because I was new and didn't push it.  Went at a comfortable pace. Also no warm up, I wanted to start cold on purpose.  Did the production group, as my pistol is not upgraded. IDK if the hood on my holster made a diff or not, prob added 1/4 second or something to each string.

3) Each stage was min 25 rounds used if you don't miss. I would say on average I used 30-35rds extra per stage.  I do enjoy shooting steel, so I would do it again if it's steel. If it's the normal cardboard, I would pass.

Also 1 person had a squib load and luckily the RO caught it before it went bad. HIFICO has the vid posted.
1) Awesome.  Good that you got out and shot a match.  I love shooting steel.  Did they have the Texas star?

2) Warm up for MPPL?  Uh, um. . . mkkay. . . If you could attribute the 0.25 sec per string, dayum.  I shot with a Thumbdrive holster for the first 2-3 matches.  Use what you got. 

3) Why pass just because cardboard?  Not fun for you?  While I enjoy shooting steel, it can give you a false sense of performance. 

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #327 on: February 22, 2022, 12:53:47 PM »
1) Awesome.  Good that you got out and shot a match.  I love shooting steel.  Did they have the Texas star?

2) Warm up for MPPL?  Uh, um. . . mkkay. . . If you could attribute the 0.25 sec per string, dayum.  I shot with a Thumbdrive holster for the first 2-3 matches.  Use what you got. 

3) Why pass just because cardboard?  Not fun for you?  While I enjoy shooting steel, it can give you a false sense of performance.

1) No star, just square and circle plates. I think the star would have kicked my ass and Mrs. CMO's. 1 stage she shot about 70rds. Which is why the 400rds I brought for the 2 of us wasn't enough.

2) I seen people dry firing and stuff and even shooting at the practice area.

3) I'm not the best shot, so I don't have confidence where my rounds go. Like not consistent. Plus my eyes suck, so I doubt I would see if I'm hitting the cardboard. At least with steel, I hear a ping. My ears still good.

But this month we're shooting the most we ever have. usually we shoot once a month. But had the HRA SB, this match, and I'm doing HDF this sat. Mrs. CMo isn't taking it, she has a hair appointment. Which cost about $300-$400 so easily cost is the amount of case of 9mm.

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #328 on: February 22, 2022, 01:05:12 PM »
1) No star, just square and circle plates. I think the star would have kicked my ass and Mrs. CMO's. 1 stage she shot about 70rds. Which is why the 400rds I brought for the 2 of us wasn't enough.

2) I seen people dry firing and stuff and even shooting at the practice area.

3) I'm not the best shot, so I don't have confidence where my rounds go. Like not consistent. Plus my eyes suck, so I doubt I would see if I'm hitting the cardboard. At least with steel, I hear a ping. My ears still good.

But this month we're shooting the most we ever have. usually we shoot once a month. But had the HRA SB, this match, and I'm doing HDF this sat. Mrs. CMo isn't taking it, she has a hair appointment. Which cost about $300-$400 so easily cost is the amount of case of 9mm.
1) The star is good fun!  When I started out, I made sure I had an extra mag and usually made sure I reloaded before.  It wasn't uncommon for the rack to spin even with decent shooters.  70 Rounds in a 25 steel stage?  Might as well throw rocks!  ;D

2) Ahh, dry firing and practice draw not bad.  I've seen many folks function testing or checking zero ahead of the match. 

3) You don't have confidence where your rounds go?  Well, paper will tell you.  Perhaps you should invest in some static range time.  Those skill builders, competitions, etc can make you lose focus on basic marksmanship as well as build bad habits. 

macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #329 on: February 22, 2022, 04:06:43 PM »
1) No star, just square and circle plates. I think the star would have kicked my ass and Mrs. CMO's. 1 stage she shot about 70rds. Which is why the 400rds I brought for the 2 of us wasn't enough.

2) I seen people dry firing and stuff and even shooting at the practice area.

3) I'm not the best shot, so I don't have confidence where my rounds go. Like not consistent. Plus my eyes suck, so I doubt I would see if I'm hitting the cardboard. At least with steel, I hear a ping. My ears still good.

But this month we're shooting the most we ever have. usually we shoot once a month. But had the HRA SB, this match, and I'm doing HDF this sat. Mrs. CMo isn't taking it, she has a hair appointment. Which cost about $300-$400 so easily cost is the amount of case of 9mm.

you concealed carry and you have no confidence where your rounds go???

drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #330 on: February 22, 2022, 04:12:06 PM »
you concealed carry and you have no confidence where your rounds go???
He wouldn't be shooting at cardboard, duh. . .

macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #331 on: February 22, 2022, 04:17:52 PM »
He wouldn't be shooting at cardboard, duh. . .

cardboard...no shoot back...

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #332 on: February 22, 2022, 07:36:23 PM »
cardboard...no shoot back...
Bricks on the other hand...

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macsak

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #333 on: February 22, 2022, 08:03:19 PM »
Bricks on the other hand...

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if you can dodge a brick...

aletheuo137

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #334 on: February 23, 2022, 09:21:54 AM »
cardboard...no shoot back...
Bruce lee boards don't hit back



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drck1000

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #335 on: February 23, 2022, 09:24:39 AM »
Bruce lee boards don't hit back

SNIP
Different movie. . .

aletheuo137

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #336 on: February 23, 2022, 09:25:20 AM »
No. You can't do this.

https://rumble.com/vvf8p0-no.-you-cant-do-this.html

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aletheuo137

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #337 on: February 23, 2022, 09:45:26 AM »
Different movie. . .


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changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #338 on: February 28, 2022, 09:07:27 AM »
Took a HDF SB pistol this weekend.

1) First time activating my WML(TLR-1) with 1 hand, either support or strong.  I never thought about doing it until now. So it shows you can learn something every time. For my strong side, I have to use my middle finger because the index is too short to reach the lever.  This causes a slight break in my grip, no biggie, it is what it is. For support side, I can reach the lever with my index because the way it activates is different  from that side.

2) Stayed hydrated and pretty much pissed every other reload. This is because HDF doesn't allow you to stay strapped while going in the bushes.  So I held it in. No migraine that night. So looks like I solved this issue. Thanks Flapp for the suggestion.

3) There was a guy who came who had a RDS who wasn't zero'd. He also installed suppressor sights and didn't zero that either. We figured out how much off he was. At 5 yards, he was shooting low about 8 inches. Left to right was fine. So after figuring that out, he was able to hit an index card at 5 yards. So the lesson is don't show up with untested/zero'd guns to a SB/class. Because if his zero was worst, now he's just wasting ammo.  Also this was his 1st one I think, so we did some gear and mag positioning that helped big time.

changemyoil66

Re: Firearms Training - Sharing Experience
« Reply #339 on: March 28, 2022, 10:08:26 AM »
Took a skill builder this weekend. For the 1st time, I slung my rifle on my back.  And not over the top, but "swim in and swim out" style.  Benefit is if you need to carry someone or something, the rifle is more out of the way.

Confirmed what I already knew, cold start on pistol sucks. At 15 yards, of 12 rds, got 3 hits on a 8x11 size paper. 2nd try got all 12 on paper.  This was after transitioning from rifle to pistol. So it wasn't just a pistol draw.  But my grouping off paper was consistent, which is left slightly off the paper and size of large grapefruit.

I think I will be focusing on more pistol skill  builders because my rifle is fine, even after not shooting it for months. Basically, practice what you suck at.