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some of the more interesting quotes from the article,

"An international study by the Citizen’s Commission on Human Rights released in February shows the connection between violence and psychiatric drugs.  The study lists 36 school shootings and school-related acts of violence that date back to 1988. All of the crimes were committed by people either taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. The end result was that 172 people were wounded and 80 were killed, according to the study."

“We are trying like the dickens to treat the symptoms, not the disease,” North said. “The disease isn’t the Second Amendment.”

School shootings are a disease and contagious. All schools need an armed presence... and not someone who is waiting to collect their $8,000 monthly pension. It doesn't have to be a permanent solution once the contagion runs is course and everyone calms the fuck down.

How much you want to bet the left and gun grabbers ignore this study.

Kids are lashing out in nihilistic violence because their lives have no meaning. The drugs are there to cover up the symptoms of knowing that we have no future besides wallowing in misery as corporate debt slaves until we die of some easily preventable disease that bankrupts our family with over inflated medical expenses. This is the future that Democrats and Republicans have prepared for us. Economic growth has shut down so now the only way to make money is pillaging the poor through austerity measures.

Seriously imagine if you are a kid and people talk about "opportunities" but you look around and see nothing but minimum wage jobs that you have to work 80hrs a week just to afford housing and nothing else. Then you hear people who are sitting pretty on these things called Pensions saying your generation is "lazy" but find out they grew up in economic boom times when everything was way less expensive and a single job could support a whole family.

But you could always join the military and come back from imperial wars a shaky shadow of your former self like your homeless cousin who can barely get the VA to pretend he exists.

These circumstances might make a lot of kids feel suicidal while others become increasingly unhinged. The current statistics definitely reflect those trends.

Kids are lashing out in nihilistic violence because their lives have no meaning. The drugs are there to cover up the symptoms of knowing that we have no future besides wallowing in misery as corporate debt slaves until we die of some easily preventable disease that bankrupts our family with over inflated medical expenses. This is the future that Democrats and Republicans have prepared for us. Economic growth has shut down so now the only way to make money is pillaging the poor through austerity measures.

Seriously imagine if you are a kid and people talk about "opportunities" but you look around and see nothing but minimum wage jobs that you have to work 80hrs a week just to afford housing and nothing else. Then you hear people who are sitting pretty on these things called Pensions saying your generation is "lazy" but find out they grew up in economic boom times when everything was way less expensive and a single job could support a whole family.

But you could always join the military and come back from imperial wars a shaky shadow of your former self like your homeless cousin who can barely get the VA to pretend he exists.

These circumstances might make a lot of kids feel suicidal while others become increasingly unhinged. The current statistics definitely reflect those trends.

well, that's one way of looking at it...

Was listening to a discussion on the radio the other day about entering the work force during a recession.  IIRC, they did a study of college graduates in 2008 and something like just that timing resulted in many of them "permanently behind" the curve.  Something about a combination of poor job opportunities and thus many settled for whatever they got and then got stuck.  They were equating it to almost to the level of a permanent disability. 

I got out of school in a time when Hawaii's job market was horrible, so I worked on the mainland for a while.  While I didn't see what those on the radio said was happening back in the late 90s, but I could see it being possible. 

Was listening to a discussion on the radio the other day about entering the work force during a recession.  IIRC, they did a study of college graduates in 2008 and something like just that timing resulted in many of them "permanently behind" the curve.  Something about a combination of poor job opportunities and thus many settled for whatever they got and then got stuck.  They were equating it to almost to the level of a permanent disability. 

I got out of school in a time when Hawaii's job market was horrible, so I worked on the mainland for a while.  While I didn't see what those on the radio said was happening back in the late 90s, but I could see it being possible.

I think it's also because schooling doesn't teach you to solve problems.  Just do what you're told and follow the path.  I'm not that old (30's) and noticed the younger hires (20's) didn't know how to problem solve.  So they just sat there with their thumb up their a$$ or had to be taught how to continue and work around the problem to achieve the end result.  So basically, throw a wrench in and they're all jam up.

I think it's also because schooling doesn't teach you to solve problems.  Just do what you're told and follow the path.  I'm not that old (30's) and noticed the younger hires (20's) didn't know how to problem solve.  So they just sat there with their thumb up their a$$ or had to be taught how to continue and work around the problem to achieve the end result.  So basically, throw a wrench in and they're all jam up.

Yeah, I agree and believe there's a lot of that as well. 

In my first job after college, I remember thinking I could have done without a LOT of the classes.  Who the F$#k needs differential equations.  I don't even remember what that was about.  I remember thinking college was about developing people to think for themselves, problem solving (like you said), and general personal growth towards independence.  For me, I remember taking more out of classes like sociology and religious studies than many of the damn math classes I had to take.  I mean, yes, math is very important in my career field, but a lot of what I learned was on the job in the first few years. 

Many younger engineers seem like they need to be told what to do. I'm used to just having the end goal in mind, which is basically figure it out.  If I have to lay out things for you step by step, I might as well do it myself.  So easy to ask someone how to do something.  Where one adds value is being self sufficient with some minimal guidance to get started and some supervisory checks at the end. 

That's why usually when I do ask for help, I let the person know that I tried A,B, & C and it didn't work.

I remember thinking college was about developing people to think for themselves, problem solving (like you said), and general personal growth towards independence.

The current trend in the American educational system is to teach students to NOT think for themselves. That's where the whole standardized testing program finds it's inspiration. If a teacher spends all their time prepping for bubble tests then they aren't focusing on a more responsive curriculum that addresses the needs of the community rather than the political fancies of a giant corporate-controlled government institutionalization program.

What's happening in the universities is similar. The goal of Liberal Arts is to teach people how to think, but increasingly those paths are gutted and the focus is shifted towards hammer-forging automatons in what are essentially overpriced vocational tech programs.  Those who learn to suck up, follow orders and graduate are then forced to work in big companies and undermine their peers with falling wages and crumbs for benefits in order to pay back the student loan sharks.

By the time they pay back the loans all their hopes and dreams are crushed, and all they are trying to accomplish is putting a little money away so they don't end up rotting away in a dark corner of some state hospital once their mind starts going and they can no longer hold back their bowel movements.

Kids aren't stupid. They see it all the time and are well aware this is all they have to look forward to.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/20/nra-president-comments-on-recent-mass-killing-second-amendment-is-not-the-disease-heres-what-is?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM-Final%202018-05-21&utm_term=TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM%20-%20last%20270%20days

some of the more interesting quotes from the article,

"An international study by the Citizen’s Commission on Human Rights released in February shows the connection between violence and psychiatric drugs.  The study lists 36 school shootings and school-related acts of violence that date back to 1988. All of the crimes were committed by people either taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. The end result was that 172 people were wounded and 80 were killed, according to the study."

“We are trying like the dickens to treat the symptoms, not the disease,” North said. “The disease isn’t the Second Amendment.”

Interesting, I wonder about the other shootings that they did not include in the study.

Think that key question is whether psychiatric drugs were a cause or a symptom. Certainly not all psychiatric drugs are associated with increased risk of violence, so did the drugs influence the individual to do something or was that individual going to do the thing and the psychiatric drugs were ineffective to stop them?

How much you want to bet the left and gun grabbers ignore this study.

I don't think they will try to ignore the story. I think they will look at it and suggest this shows that anyone on psychiatric drugs, or at least a certain type of psychiatric drugs, should have their firearms taken away.

Kids are lashing out in nihilistic violence because their lives have no meaning.

You start with something that may have validity, then veer off into stuff that only affects young adults. 

Virtually everything you say later is another issue not involving HS kids, until after getting out of school a year or more down the line. 

Kds do not have that sort of long view of things, and then say f*ck it, I am going to go shoot up the school because the system is rigged..

Pensions are a sore point, but another issue.