I know a good amount of friends who were prescribed medical pakalolo for anxiety during college.  What college life doesn't come with anxiety/stress?  This was in CA.

These "disabled" students also qualify for handicap placards. Explain that to my really disabled dad who can't walk, yet students with these "disabilities" have no hinderance walking a short distance to WalMart.
We are not a nation of weaknesses.

These "disabled" students also qualify for handicap placards. Explain that to my really disabled dad who can't walk, yet students with these "disabilities" have no hinderance walking a short distance to WalMart.
We are not a nation of weaknesses.

Wheelchairs for fat people also.  In Taiwan, the only people using a wheelchair were missing a leg or had those very skinny legs (couldn't walk on them).

Granted I did see only 1 fat person in Taiwan also.

Wheelchairs for fat people also.  In Taiwan, the only people using a wheelchair were missing a leg or had those very skinny legs (couldn't walk on them).

Granted I did see only 1 fat person in Taiwan also.

I see that often. Its a shame that people take advantage of these handicap laws just to get a closer parking space, preferred treatment etc. There's no honor in that. Despite not having a handicap placard (the person at the satellite City Hall wanted to see my dad in a wheelchair AND a dr's note - to make sure he was qualified; he finally got a RED temp one) I park aways and transport dad, knowing that I am fully capable of doing so. That's what keep me level-headed - is that I have both my legs, arms and can use them.

(the person at the satellite City Hall wanted to see my dad in a wheelchair AND a dr's note - to make sure he was qualified; he finally got a RED temp one)

Seems kind of strange an employee of the dmv would disregard the mandatory disability placard application that a doctor is required to authorize; especially since they do not have the authority to disregard an application without proof that the application had been obviously forged or altered. I have Filed the placard application numerous times for my father and grandfather over the years, and never once was it required that they validate their disability by needing to be in a wheel chair.

If you attempted to get a placard without submitting the proper form and/or obtaining a physicians authorization, thats on you. The instructions are perfectly clear on the form.

Again,  seems questionable.

Seems kind of strange an employee of the dmv would disregard the mandatory disability placard application that a doctor is required to authorize; especially since they do not have the authority to disregard an application without proof that the application had been obviously forged or altered. I have Filed the placard application numerous times for my father and grandfather over the years, and never once was it required that they validate their disability by needing to be in a wheel chair.

If you attempted to get a placard without submitting the proper form and/or obtaining a physicians authorization, thats on you. The instructions are perfectly clear on the form.

Again,  seems questionable.

My Ex has a titanium knee.  She was issued a BLUE handicap placard, because she was told to limit the amount of abuse on the knee. At her relatively young age, they expected she'd need another knee in about 15 years -- unusual, as replacement knees are usually for the elderly who won't be around when it wears out.

So, no wheelchair, no crutches, and no other outwardly identifiable symptoms of her medical problem.  If they wanted to challenge her justification, they really couldn't without rejecting the doctor's evaluation.

Which brings up another issue.  Isn't there a privacy right here? You should not be required to explain and document the specific medical problems you have just to get a placard for better parking. A doctor's certification should be all that's required.

I'd consider threatening a lawsuit for breach of HIPAA privacy laws and see what they do.

Seems kind of strange an employee of the dmv would disregard the mandatory disability placard application that a doctor is required to authorize; especially since they do not have the authority to disregard an application without proof that the application had been obviously forged or altered. I have Filed the placard application numerous times for my father and grandfather over the years, and never once was it required that they validate their disability by needing to be in a wheel chair.

If you attempted to get a placard without submitting the proper form and/or obtaining a physicians authorization, thats on you. The instructions are perfectly clear on the form.

Again,  seems questionable.

I brought the memo and my dad's driver's license with me. The clerk stated that too many people are abusing the placard and they wanted to make sure I was getting it for my dad. This was at the Kapolei Satellite City Hall. I don't know why they issued a temp red placard while a friend of mine has a blue one based on her OCD. She can walk fine.

I always marveled at the jackasses at the Las Vegas Athletic Club who borrowed their family's placard to park in the handicap stall so they don't have to walk so far to work out at the gym. I imagine the same thing happens at the 24 hour Fitness at Kamakana Alii.

I brought the memo and my dad's driver's license with me. The clerk stated that too many people are abusing the placard and they wanted to make sure I was getting it for my dad. This was at the Kapolei Satellite City Hall. I don't know why they issued a temp red placard while a friend of mine has a blue one based on her OCD. She can walk fine.

Hard to believe someone getting issued a placard for OCD; either you're exaggerating,  or your friend falsified her application,  because i highly doubt a doctor would risk losing their license for falsifying a document.

And why bring a doctors note? The fact that they signed the proper form is all the validation needed; seems like you didn't file the correct application, because I have never heard on anyone needing to provide a doctors note to obtain a placard.

you didn't say your dad wasnt there in person. Unless you provided proof that you are his legal power of attorney and able to act on his behalf,  they were justified in questioning the application, as it states on the form to show up in person to obtain a placard. As the rep said: too many people abusing the system, with people falsifying documents to obtain placards and other benefits.

I don't understand why you didn't just have the placard mailed, as that option is listed on the form for individuals unable to go in person.

I asked my wife’s doctor fill out the form so I could park close to a ramp since she is now partially disabled and needs a walker to get around. The form requires the person the placard is for to show up on the initial application. After that renewals do not require a visit. We have attempted to go to the Kapolei office 3 times and the line was so long my wife couldn’t stand for the 2-3+ hours we were told it would take to get through the line. We never got the placard. And it seems it would be a waste anyway. As every time I take her somewhere, all of the handicapped spaces are already occupied. And after seeing the occupant(s) of the vehicles with the placards, I understand that this is being abused. So what I do is I stop as close to a ramp as I can and get my wife’s walker out and get her going on her own.

Have you ever seen someone blatantly park in a handicap space?  Do you routinely say to yourself, "I wish I was a Cop right now so I could give that guy a ticket?"

Well, you can!!  You can volunteer to be an HPD VSEO ....  a Volunteer Special Enforcement Officer.

You can give out tickets for handicap parking violations, expired tags and safety checks, and other violations.

You can also help HPD personnel enforce abandoned vehicles, parking, and other laws.

You've probably seen them around, but do you know what they do? They're known as Volunteer Special Enforcement Officer
or VSEO. They're civilian volunteers, commissioned by the Chief of Police as a special police officer. They give citations for
handicap parking violations, expired registrations and safety checks to name a few. They also help HPD personnel enforce
abandoned vehicles, parking, and other laws.

The VSEO Unit is part of Traffic Division and is managed by one sergeant and three HPD officers. There are currently 21
Volunteer Special Enforcement Officers and they have to go through at least 20 hours of training including learning city and
state laws, identifying violators and issuing citations, use of communication and other necessary equipment, procedures to
follow in the event of confrontations with suspected violators, providing testimony in court to enforce citations, etc. On average,
The Volunteer Special Enforcement Officers issue about 300 citations each month and about 200 of those are handicap
parking violations.


The Volunteer Special Enforcement Officer has a term of two years, but they can apply again. To qualify, the individual would
have to:
-   Complete a volunteer application.
-   Be a U.S. Citizen, a resident of the city, and at least 21 years of age.
-   Pass a background investigation.
-   Possess a valid State of Hawaii driver's license.
-   Possess a high school diploma, GED, or its equivalent.
-   Conform to HPD departmental standards of conduct, directives, orders, policies, and procedures (both on and off duty).
-   Must work a minimum of 20 hours per month.
-   Pass a physical examination, oral interview, and background investigation and meet any other prescribed criteria.

You can also call 723-3412 for more information.

http://honolulupd.org/news/index.php?page=main&story=499

I got a temp one for my ankle surgery.  My mother in law picked it up for me with my ID and the form from my surgeons office, no attitude was given.  Still taking advantage of the free parking meters and will continue to do so until it expires at the end of june.... take that Kailua parking.

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I got a temp one for my ankle surgery.  My mother in law picked it up for me with my ID and the form from my surgeons office, no attitude was given.  Still taking advantage of the free parking meters and will continue to do so until it expires at the end of june.... take that Kailua parking.

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Oh suck it up buttercup. Isn’t that what this thread is kinda about. Haha. J/K. Ankle surgery is no joke.

I’ve had to pick up two for my dad. I don’t recall any attitude or “prove it” things. Though I do notice what I believe are blatant abuse. Folks that look fully capable, but then again, I don’t know what’s going on with them, and none of my business really.

Though I do get a laugh when I see lifted trucks with placards. I mean I am able bodied and it would take me some effor to climb into some with the 12”+ lift kits.

Not exaggerating. One symptom I noticed was that she is a hoarder. We went out once and she offered to use her blue placard and she explained that she got it because of her condition.
Yes. My fault as pointed out - I did not have my dad present as its easier for me to go after work without him. I stood in line for 45 minutes on the first trip.
Well, in keeping with the theme, I'm not going to stand in line again. I suck it up. As some of you have noticed there are a lot of "disabled" people.

While I believe that there are many that are abusing, I never really know. When I hurt my back, I couldn’t walk even 50 feet without having to stop. I looked fine, but I was in pain, bad. Sucked it up and dealt with it. Thankfully got through it, but I learned can’t reallt tell.

Again, not my business, but I do notice more now that my dad really needs the placard. I mean I am usually transporting and can wheel him around, but to unload, I usually need more space than regular stalls and sometimes have to block the aisle for a little bit. People are usually understanding when they see me loading or u loading my dad, but it also does take time. So yes, if I see folks that look outwardly capable, I do wondering to myself.

While I believe that there are many that are abusing, I never really know. When I hurt my back, I couldn’t walk even 50 feet without having to stop. I looked fine, but I was in pain, bad. Sucked it up and dealt with it. Thankfully got through it, but I learned can’t reallt tell.

Again, not my business, but I do notice more now that my dad really needs the placard. I mean I am usually transporting and can wheel him around, but to unload, I usually need more space than regular stalls and sometimes have to block the aisle for a little bit. People are usually understanding when they see me loading or u loading my dad, but it also does take time. So yes, if I see folks that look outwardly capable, I do wondering to myself.

It has always bothered me that the window placard can't have a picture of the placard owner. That way half the abusers at least wouldn't be able to get away with it. I've seen so many times people take grandma's car so they can get better parking or avoid paying for parking -- even though grandma stayed home.

It has always bothered me that the window placard can't have a picture of the placard owner. That way half the abusers at least wouldn't be able to get away with it. I've seen so many times people take grandma's car so they can get better parking or avoid paying for parking -- even though grandma stayed home.

For me, the hefty fine of being caught without the placard person, and proper ID and the blue wallet card is enough to deter me. Though I do see what it probably what you noted quite often.

For me, the hefty fine of being caught without the placard person, and proper ID and the blue wallet card is enough to deter me. Though I do see what it probably what you noted quite often.

The people who do it often have no clue about the penalties. They just think the placard is all they need, and unless someone challenges them and checks for the ID card, they're right.

The people who do it often have no clue about the penalties. They just think the placard is all they need, and unless someone challenges them and checks for the ID card, they're right.

I mean I wouldn’t abuse on principle alone. But if folks don’t know the rules, that’s one thing. I think many know and don’t care.