Leilani Estates man arrested for allegedly firing handgun at resident (Read 19703 times)

jerry_03

« Last Edit: May 30, 2018, 04:52:39 PM by jerry_03 »

drck1000

If you’re on FB, look up “Ethan O Edwards”. There’s a video of at least some of the shots fired.

zippz

I find it interesting that he was only charged with reckless endangerment, not assault, terroristic threatening, place to keep firearms, etc.  I wonder if this was on a private road or his driveway.  I'm surprised the other guy didn't run off, most guys would when faced with a gun and warning shots.

Flapp_Jackson

I find it interesting that he was only charged with reckless endangerment, not assault, terroristic threatening, place to keep firearms, etc.  I wonder if this was on a private road or his driveway.  I'm surprised the other guy didn't run off, most guys would when faced with a gun and warning shots.

The arrest only requires a single charge. After the DA investigates, they can decide to add as many charges as they feel are warranted.

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Bushido

I'm no attorney but that sure looks like far more than reckless endangering

drck1000

I'm no attorney but that sure looks like far more than reckless endangering
I’d like to see what happened leading up to the video that I saw. However, regardless of what precipitated that, I would still expect charges for the older guy. Just think the current charge is the no-brainer.

Read through some of the comments. Some said the older guy was fending off looters. Others said the older guy had an earlier run in with police. All specialtion, but many times reporting from HNN is quite lacking. 

jerry_03

changemyoil66

Arguing with a guy who has a gun *facepalm

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robtmc

If this was a "You loot, we shoot" thing, no way will the DA side with the guy protecting his property.

Gordyf

Don't know the circumstances, but the optics are not good.
Doesn't help the cause.
As said... Tensions are high
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ren

Arguing with a guy who has a gun *facepalm

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Only in Hawaii where all people with guns are bad and people with mal intent have more rights and protection
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London808

From puting together Facebook posts this is what is the story looks like (could be wrong)

Old guy lives in the evacuation area and people have been looting.

Your guy comes with some friends and are driving around the area stopping outside various property’s ( they do live in the area but where not at that property when confronted)

Old guy confronts them asking them what their doing and why - he dosnt recognize them because they don’t avtually live where they are located.

They get into a verbal spa back and forth, some pushing and shoving happens,

Old guy is backing away young guy follows, this is where the video starts.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

London808

The recklessness charges stem from firing a gun on a roadway.

A lot of that area is private roads so he could well be on private property and hence no conclead/firearms charges.

This could well be self defense and all charges may be dropped or it could go the other way and they try and charge him with as many crimes as they can.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

changemyoil66

The recklessness charges stem from firing a gun on a roadway.

A lot of that area is private roads so he could well be on private property and hence no conclead/firearms charges.

This could well be self defense and all charges may be dropped or it could go the other way and they try and charge him with as many crimes as they can.

Would this challenge the "residence" definition?  Because if it does, then that would mean that it's not your 4 walls and roof.

drck1000


Old guy is backing away young guy follows, this is where the video starts.
Not defending or justifying actions of the older guy. But of course the younger guy rushes to post his side of the story on social media. And he happens to have friends who video the encounter. Gets one side of the story out there and that leads to initial judgement before or without all the facts.

One of my first impressions of the video posted was a guy who always has to have the last word, no matter what.

changemyoil66



One of my first impressions of the video posted was a guy who always has to have the last word, no matter what.

I thought the same.  Especially when a gun is pointed at him, he's still arguing.

drck1000

I thought the same.  Especially when a gun is pointed at him, he's still arguing.
Eh. It was just a 22. :P (/kidding)

zippz

I noticed whenever the guy with the gun backed up or lowered the gun, the other guy would advance forward and escalate the confrontation even with the warning shots.  When the guy with the gun stood firm with the gun aimed, the other guy backed off.

I'm not saying the encounter was justified or not, but its a strategy to keep in mind in a self defense scenario.

drck1000

The older guy did some good things. Create space, use of left arm to fend off the other guy and also protecting/shielding the gun arm. But then eventually putting the gun out here with arm extended with the other guy within arms reach of the gun put it at risk for a take away.

changemyoil66

I hope Active Self Protection does a review of this.  I went to his website and can't find a "contact" section.