Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire. (Read 8349 times)

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Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« on: April 10, 2012, 09:22:04 PM »
There is a big buzz on the gun forums about slide fires for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.  Checked the videos, and looks very similar to an automatic rifle.  I've heard it maybe legal in Hawaii.  As anyone heard of this?

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Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 09:25:38 PM »
If you do a search for slidefire you will see kava boy sold one he owned here on Oahu.

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Re: Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 10:28:05 PM »
can't use them too many places.  Only private ranges and Magnum.  at Magnum you gotta buy thier ammo.....
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 10:29:04 PM »
No way that kind of stuff can be legal. Who in the world would waste money on something like that. It's ludicrous.
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Re: Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 10:33:58 PM »
ZNo way that kind of stuff can be legal. Who in the world would waste money on something like that. It's ludicrous.


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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 10:48:34 PM »
Uh. Wow.

That looks like fun. Legality depends on how the law is written and interpreted.

From HRS, for convenience:

"Automatic firearm" means any firearm that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily modified to shoot automatically more than one shot, without a manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.  This term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such firearm, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or any combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a firearm into an automatic firearm, and any combination of parts from which an automatic firearm can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a single person."

Bolds added. The first defines automatic as a single function of the trigger... which a slidefire stock is not since it requires several actions other than the trigger to function. The second looks like it covers any assembly of parts that convert to an automatic weapon... but the slidefire has already been exempted from definition as an automatic weapon.

Looks like its legal. Makes me kinda want an AK.

But then... I really can't afford to feed such a thing. And it certainly would be fun arguing the finer points of the law with the nice officer inquiring about my "machine gun." The BATFE approval letter helps, though. I'd keep a copy of that sucker and the HRS definition of "Machine Gun" in the case with that puppy.

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 10:54:37 PM »
Of course, the ATF has been known to change its mind...

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Re: Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 12:35:21 AM »
With any slidefire type device you are pulling the trigger everytime. er bumpfire.......

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2012, 12:53:14 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2012, 05:45:47 AM »
Can I use slid fire at koko head? If not anywhere on Oahu??

You can use a slide fire stock at the normal range at Koko Head...as long as you lock it and fire no more than once per second.  So no, you can't use the bump-fire option on the normal rifle range side of Koko Head.  At the action bays, it will be up to whoever is running it, whether they want to allow it or not.
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Re: Slide Fire Stock for semi-autos, and simulates bump fire.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 08:20:05 AM »
X-Ring Stocks them.

There are private land that people use them on.  You will just have to ask around.
I know there is one on the North Shore and Waianae.

If youre in the Military I heard you can use it at some ranges at certain times during the day
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 11:34:44 AM »
X-Ring Stocks them.

There are private land that people use them on.  You will just have to ask around.
I know there is one on the North Shore and Waianae.

If youre in the Military I heard you can use it at some ranges at certain times during the day

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2012, 01:32:17 PM »
X-Ring Stocks them.

There are private land that people use them on.  You will just have to ask around.
I know there is one on the North Shore and Waianae.

If youre in the Military I heard you can use it at some ranges at certain times during the day



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