Bill G. is a highpower shooter and before his trigger came along the only good trigger in the market was the RRA 2 stage, preferably tuned by John Holliger. The MK trigger was considered the best and the only ones I knew that had them were the military teams. The Jewell was funky with all these gears and springs and couldnt hold weight (in service rile matches the min. trigger weight was 4.5 lbs).
So like other engineers who were shooters he designed a trigger. His trigger was well received by the HP community and his company and products took off. HP shooters are less gimmicky. They only use stuff that works. I also use his "NM" mount as it is the only mount that can put a scope low and forward enough for HP position shooting: standing, sitting and prone.

I’ve heard of Jewell and Timney when I was looking at options for my 700. The Timney seemed like a popular and relatively inexpensive option. Never really considered them for any of my ARs.

Anyone is free to try out G triggers whenever I'm at Kokohead. I have the "NM" and G2S on my carbine.
I found a comparable and cheaper trigger that may rival the G2S - the Larue MBT. The feature I like is the wider trigger shoe. It feels like a G2S perhaps a bit crisper break.
Another distinction is that while G triggers are investment cast, the Larue is machined from tool steel. I posted pics of my G trigger that broke at around 10,000 rounds awhile ago.

I'm curious what the weight is on your existing triggers are? Personally I think 2# is too lite and 5# is too heavy except for self defense.

Anyone is free to try out G triggers whenever I'm at Kokohead. I have the "NM" and G2S on my carbine.
I found a comparable and cheaper trigger that may rival the G2S - the Larue MBT. The feature I like is the wider trigger shoe. It feels like a G2S perhaps a bit crisper break.
Another distinction is that while G triggers are investment cast, the Larue is machined from tool steel. I posted pics of my G trigger that broke at around 10,000 rounds awhile ago.

Yeah. I recall that thread. A company’s CS is big for me and a quick way to make me a loyal customer or swear a company off.

I'm curious what the weight is on your existing triggers are? Personally I think 2# is too lite and 5# is too heavy except for self defense.

No idea. Whatever USGI triggers are. I’m guessing in the 5-7 lb range for all of my various ARs.

If I was going for precision only, like for my 700, I wanted something in the 2-3 lb range. I’ve shot triggers in the 1-1.5 lb range and I swear just making contact with the trigger was enough to break them.

Stock should be 5.5 lbs.

ALG ACT is 5.5 lbs

The 2 stage Geissele has a 2.5 lbs 1st stage and 2 lbs 2nd stage.

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I'm considering a trigger for a rem 700.  The xmark trigger sucks and it doesnt adjust below 4lbs on mine.  The old rem triggers were great and I could adjust them to how I like it.

Looking at geiselle or a timney.

I'm considering a trigger for a rem 700.  The xmark trigger sucks and it doesnt adjust below 4lbs on mine.  The old rem triggers were great and I could adjust them to how I like it.

Looking at geiselle or a timney.

My 700 still has the recall trigger. 

I was looking at Timney as a quick and in expensive replacement. Though the Geissele Super 700 trigger sounds tempting. I was also looking at Jewell and Calvin.

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger/

Never tried a larue trigger, but it's a 2.5 lbs first stage and 2 lbs second stage

I have the ACT trigger and a Tom's tactical polished nickel plated trigger which is essentially what the ACT is but cost only $35. I can't tell the difference between the 2. PSA has their version of this trigger that often goes on sale for $30

I'm thinking of trying that larue one for my next build. I got parts lying around, just don't know what to build yet

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger/

Never tried a larue trigger, but it's a 2.5 lbs first stage and 2 lbs second stage

I have the ACT trigger and a Tom's tactical polished nickel plated trigger which is essentially what the ACT is but cost only $35. I can't tell the difference between the 2. PSA has their version of this trigger that often goes on sale for $30

I'm thinking of trying that larue one for my next build. I got parts lying around, just don't know what to build yet

“The result of this extra effort is a glass-smooth, hyper-consistent trigger that will satisfy even the most scrupulous competition shooter, but also be overly rugged for the battlefield.”

At $87, I might be tempted to give it a try. If you try it, let me know. 

Well, couldn't resist the continued Geissele sale and ordered the SSA.  Might not be here for a couple of weeks due to their high volume of their 4th of July sale.  When I ordered the MK14 rail on their last sale, it took almost 2 weeks. 

It took my scope mount and ACH a full month to get here from the Memorial Day sale. And the transit time was only a week.

I’m kind of a diva and like to have the best of everything. It’s counter to what a lot of people think, but I’d much rather hold the gun back than the other way around. Every AR I have has a G trigger in it. I started with the classic SSA and then moved to the flat bow. My wife’s gun/HD gun has the SD-C and mine has the SD-E. She won’t be there on Saturday so you can use her lower and try out the SD-C if you want. I’m curious about the SSP but I like the SD-C/E so much I’m not sure what it’ll bring to the table. It’s nice to have the two stage when I want it, but they’re such good triggers that they feel like single stage when I’m not looking for it.

It took my scope mount and ACH a full month to get here from the Memorial Day sale. And the transit time was only a week.

I’m kind of a diva and like to have the best of everything. It’s counter to what a lot of people think, but I’d much rather hold the gun back than the other way around. Every AR I have has a G trigger in it. I started with the classic SSA and then moved to the flat bow. My wife’s gun/HD gun has the SD-C and mine has the SD-E. She won’t be there on Saturday so you can use her lower and try out the SD-C if you want. I’m curious about the SSP but I like the SD-C/E so much I’m not sure what it’ll bring to the table. It’s nice to have the two stage when I want it, but they’re such good triggers that they feel like single stage when I’m not looking for it.

I ordered the rail in their Memorial Day sale too and it actually shipped a little over two weeks to ship. I thought it was quicker.

I actually ordered the ACH a couple days before I found out about the Geissele sale. :facepalm:  I should’ve known they’d have a sale. I saw the ACH was out on a bunch of other sites, so I figured just order while they had it in stock.

Cool. Yeah, looking forward to Sat. Will have my Colt with the AFAB back on and also will shoot my AK project some. I was thinking of the SD-C, but maybe for another gun after I try the SSA some.

I was initially interested in the SSP being a single stage, but decided to go with the SSA after more research and some videos of Bill Geissele talking about the two stage forgiveness factor for the SSA and their other combat triggers.

Sharing an excellent video on Geissele and ALG Defense triggers.  Wish I watched this before starting reading up on the triggers.  It's a little long (33:09), but worth some time if you're interested in investing in one of these triggers.  Before starting my research, I was mostly interested in the SSP.  Through more reading (forums and the Geissele website), I narrowed it down to the SSA and SD-C, at least for what I want them for. 

This is a pretty good video showing the operation of the single stage trigger and the two stages of the Geissele SD trigger.  Pretty interesting seeing this perspective as you can't see all of that when the trigger is installed.  I could also better envision the points Bill Geissele was making on the installation video and places to apply lube or grease. 



Also learned more about lock time and potential effects on accuracy.  As well as stuff like trigger spring degradation.  All very interesting stuff that I had never really looked into before since I had "stuck" with USGI triggers. 

That's what all that clicking sounds are in my lower.

Might as well add my 2 cents. Although you already made up your mind.

I own 2 larue mbt. Love them at 100 bucks each. (Now its on sale for cheaper) damnit. But atleast i got the plastic cutaway chassis . It was a bundle back in the day.

Had geissele tricon (sold it. Great trigger but bought 2 alg qms triggers to go back to basics)

Have a g2s trigger still. Great trigger. No need to use those weird c clip things. I use kns pins instead. All same shit. Tbh.

2 stage is awesome. Im sure you guys shoot more than me. If you know your breaking point then hold it right before 2nd stage. Quick shot. I played around with that couple years ago.

The qms is obviously the cheaper version of act. And i loved how smooth it was vs my rra stock usgi trigger. I could tell the diff.

Be careful of NM trigger from rra. I believe they use larger pins. So i heard people complaining that they enlarged their holes on their lowers. Idk if it was a certain run or not but i was looking into a NM trigger for my former rra.

Like the indian and arrows. Its all muscle memory. The benefit of a usgi trigger is that your use to it. If shtf and you "found" a bone stock rifle somewhere. Your use to every aspect of that trigger/ rifle. Whereas someone with a 2 stage blah crap ambi rifle is so spoiled that a stock rifle dont have all the features. So they may struggle and forgot a charging handle had only 1 latch before or they have to use their left hand for bolt release.  Kinda like my glocks. All stock!
That is all. X)

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Like the indian and arrows. Its all muscle memory. The benefit of a usgi trigger is that your use to it. If shtf and you "found" a bone stock rifle somewhere. Your use to every aspect of that trigger/ rifle. Whereas someone with a 2 stage blah crap ambi rifle is so spoiled that a stock rifle dont have all the features. So they may struggle and forgot a charging handle had only 1 latch before or they have to use their left hand for bolt release.  Kinda like my glocks. All stock!
That is all. X)

For my AR and Glock, I have pretty much stayed with the stock triggers for the most part.  I only modified my Glock 34 trigger, but that gun is purely for competition.  I generally try to learn and get proficient with the stock features of guns before trying other things.  That said, if there are products that offer a performance benefit, I'm all for them.  That said, I try to be aware of if they are sort of letting me get lax on technique, like with muzzle devices for my ARs. 

Tried the Geissele SD-C on Mrs. Wake's gun and it was pretty sweet!  I tried the gun on a course of fire where we were doing multiple shots on various targets, so it was a nice "test run" for the trigger.  The break was crisp and didn't feel like it was too light, as in venturing into being unsafe for defensive shooting, which was something I was concerned about going to 2-stage triggers.  While I am not sure if the trigger allowed me to shoot faster than with a USGI trigger, but something I'd like to test in the future.  See if there is a difference on split times. 

I'm really looking forward to when my SSA comes in and shooting from a bench, where I hopefully can focus more on the trigger break itself. 

When we were doing the walk back drill shooting on steel, I remember thinking I wish I had the Geissele trigger in there.  It was one of the first times I really started noticing the slight gritty feeling of the Colt USGI trigger.  I hadn't really noticed it before.  I had heard of that as a common observation or complaint about USGI triggers, but I guess that was all I knew. 

Overall, I do envision eventually trying the SD-C in another AR.