Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do? (Read 10549 times)

shdws

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2018, 11:45:06 AM »
I have one of those laser cartridges, but it's for my HK USP 40 Compact and I rarely shoot that gun and almost never dry fire it.  Not sure if it's still available, but it was meant to be partnered with this electronic target, maybe 5"-6" square that would register hits.  It was pretty cool, but I never bought it.
Yep, I'm cheap as hell when I can get away with it.  I just use painters tape and slap up a shoot-n-see and point the phone at the target to register the hits.  I wasnt about to pay $100 for the whole set up  8)

ren

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robtmc

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2018, 07:22:43 AM »
https://scattusa.com/collections/scatt-systems/products/scatt-air-dry-fire-and-live-fire-system
$750!!!

Ouch, no way the CFO would go for that at less than half the price.  "Your Glock did not cost that much............"

drck1000

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2018, 01:31:58 PM »

ren

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2018, 01:38:29 PM »
$750!!!

Ouch, no way the CFO would go for that at less than half the price.  "Your Glock did not cost that much............"

that's the cheapest one they have
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1911Kid

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2018, 04:59:45 PM »
For me dry fire practice must be goal oriented. That is to say, by practicing at home what is it that I want to accomplish? I wanted to get gooder at USPSA so I started with the 3 obvious things: draws, reloads, trigger control. I did that almost everyday for 15-20 mins until I saw improvements in my scores. After being satisfied with that I sought out to improve other skills. Specifically minimizing my non-shooting time. I focused heavily on target set-ups and transitions. This consumed more time at home; my dry fire practice was probably 30 mins or so, and as close to everyday as possible. Doing this gave me an additional boost in scores. The last thing I really worked on at home was all the crap no one likes doing, long range, partial shots, unloaded starts, and strong/weak hand only. I did all of that almost everyday for a long time. The work paid off. Been away from competition for awhile, presently I'm slowly getting back into USPSA and I will dry fire for 30-45 mins 3-4 times a week, practicing all the stuff I mentioned above. Ben Steoger's dry fire book is a great resource if you need direction and structure.

Surf

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2018, 05:26:54 PM »
The hard part for marksmanship for newer shooters is obviously how the grip and trigger finger interacts with the weapon when the trigger is pulled.  Once this marksmanship issue is under control, I impart to others that shooting becomes the less complicated part and all of the peripheries, such as manipulations become the complex part of the puzzle. 

Achieving unconscious competence when it comes to mechanics/manipulations is essential.  You must free up the cognitive or conscious mind allowing its full attention to rapidly process incoming sensory information, which is mostly visual and decide on an action.  Until such time it will be hard to progress to another level in your shooting.  Much of this ingraining of peripheral manipulations can be accomplished without firing a shot. 

For myself, I continue to heavily work on base mechanics/manipulations that are pretty common for dry fire, as I believe fundamentals should always be worked.  I especially feel that as I get older one of the best ways to maintain or increase speed in my actions, is to work these harder than before.  In addition, at this stage in my shooting career, I work heavily on minutiae especially in regards to "seeing" faster.

drck1000

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2018, 08:11:39 AM »
For me dry fire practice must be goal oriented. That is to say, by practicing at home what is it that I want to accomplish? I wanted to get gooder at USPSA so I started with the 3 obvious things: draws, reloads, trigger control. I did that almost everyday for 15-20 mins until I saw improvements in my scores. After being satisfied with that I sought out to improve other skills. Specifically minimizing my non-shooting time. I focused heavily on target set-ups and transitions. This consumed more time at home; my dry fire practice was probably 30 mins or so, and as close to everyday as possible. Doing this gave me an additional boost in scores. The last thing I really worked on at home was all the crap no one likes doing, long range, partial shots, unloaded starts, and strong/weak hand only. I did all of that almost everyday for a long time. The work paid off. Been away from competition for awhile, presently I'm slowly getting back into USPSA and I will dry fire for 30-45 mins 3-4 times a week, practicing all the stuff I mentioned above. Ben Steoger's dry fire book is a great resource if you need direction and structure.
When I was shooting USPSA more often, I wanted to "get gooder" as well.   ;D  I would focus on draws and mag changes as well as trigger control.  Sounds similar to you.  I also started focusing on the "minimizing non-shooting time" and stuff like having the gun pretty much already up when you get "on station".  That took some work and something I'm sure I'll have to work on when I eventually get back into shooting those matches.  Many of the USPSA big names talk about everyone can pull trigger fast, it's the things in between where you can really cut down the times. 

The hard part for marksmanship for newer shooters is obviously how the grip and trigger finger interacts with the weapon when the trigger is pulled.  Once this marksmanship issue is under control, I impart to others that shooting becomes the less complicated part and all of the peripheries, such as manipulations become the complex part of the puzzle. 

Achieving unconscious competence when it comes to mechanics/manipulations is essential.  You must free up the cognitive or conscious mind allowing its full attention to rapidly process incoming sensory information, which is mostly visual and decide on an action.  Until such time it will be hard to progress to another level in your shooting.  Much of this ingraining of peripheral manipulations can be accomplished without firing a shot. 

For myself, I continue to heavily work on base mechanics/manipulations that are pretty common for dry fire, as I believe fundamentals should always be worked.  I especially feel that as I get older one of the best ways to maintain or increase speed in my actions, is to work these harder than before.  In addition, at this stage in my shooting career, I work heavily on minutiae especially in regards to "seeing" faster.
I find that since I tend to binge shoot, I have to concentrate on basic marksmanship and I've seen that slip when I don't shoot regularly.  But yeah, when I am more focuses on trigger control, I've found that it does take away from other aspects of shooting. 

6716J

Re: Importance of Dry Fire - What Do You Do?
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2018, 08:51:24 AM »
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.