I always think to myself... watching, reading, seeing, all these anti 2A, anti gun activists, politicians that find ways to strip our rights to guns in anyway, go around the 2nd Amendment and toss it in the side like there’s no meaning to it.  Do they even think about what makes us a proud country? A country of the free? The whole meaning of being a American citizens of the United States? Are they forgetting when we say—-

I pledge Allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible,
with Liberty and Justice for all.

Just my thoughts, no pun intended...

No state's rights on direct Constitutional matters.

Don't think that's what the Constitution says.  In any case, up to a higher court to decide.  I believe it's a fine line and one that many states, including Hawaii, has crossed.  Just to date, hasn't been successfully challenged. 

Tenth Amendment

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.[

Supremacy Clause

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

Sure is the wild wild west because no one told this guy that he shouldn't be carrying a gun
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38673493/manhunt-continues-for-man-accused-in-puna-officers-fatal-shooting

but he did

yeah so Hawaii sure knows how to regulate firearms....only the criminals have them

Exactly.  And that's exactly the point that people commenting on the SA and HNN seem to be waking up to the fact of the matter.  The whole "this ain't the mainland" attitude.  No, it isn't, but wake up and see that things are changing here and in the case of violent crimes, not for the better. 

Obviously you care enough to whine about Hawaii And how much you dislike it, over and over again.

And great job openly admitting you would celebrate an attack on US citizens.

Q,
I love Hawaii.
I despise the people in Honolulu That run this state.
Tax us to death and deny us basic rights to protect
ourselves.

can you open carry in haleakala national park? I thought you could in national parks

can you open carry in haleakala national park? I thought you could in national parks

No, but maybe if you have a hunting permit is the only exception and are actively hunting.

Pretty sure though Haleakala doesn't allow hunting.

No, but maybe if you have a hunting permit is the only exception and are actively hunting.

Pretty sure though Haleakala doesn't allow hunting.

Not entirely accurate ...

Congress approved a new law allowing loaded firearms in national parks starting Feb. 22, 2010. That means people can
openly carry legal handguns, rifles, shotguns and other firearms and also may carry concealed guns as allowed by state
statute.

If you can possess firearms legally according to the laws of the state in which a park is located, you can generally carry
them in that park.

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Not entirely accurate ...

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf

Our laws state need hunting permit or something along that level.

Kind of like how suppressors are legal a the fed level, but illegal in Hawaii.

I could be wrong, I don't hunt so never really looked into it.  Just going by what I remember when reading the entire HRS134.

Our laws state need hunting permit or something along that level.

Kind of like how suppressors are legal a the fed level, but illegal in Hawaii.

I could be wrong, I don't hunt so never really looked into it.  Just going by what I remember when reading the entire HRS134.

If he's asking in the context of current laws, then you're right. 

This topic is about the probability of getting the state to change its laws re: carrying firearms for protection.

When/if that happens, lots of existing laws will need to change, including places to keep.  If carry is legalized, then the national parks regulations I posted would apply.

If he's asking in the context of current laws, then you're right. 

This topic is about the probability of getting the state to change its laws re: carrying firearms for protection.

When/if that happens, lots of existing laws will need to change, including places to keep.  If carry is legalized, then the national parks regulations I posted would apply.

Thanks for the clarification.

Obviously you care enough to whine about Hawaii And how much you dislike it, over and over again.

And great job openly admitting you would celebrate an attack on US citizens.

His screen name is grovler..... Maybe he filled out the description instead of screen name. Lol.

I wonder if the open carry (if it ever passes) will carry over to POVs.

His screen name is grovler..... Maybe he filled out the description instead of screen name. Lol.

You get it!
That is what you have to do in this state to buy a gun, Grovel before the government.
That is why I selected that name.

And here we go fighting against peoples' rights
https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/hawaii-county-requests-more-time-to-fight-open-carry/1336030782

And here we go fighting against peoples' rights
https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/hawaii-county-requests-more-time-to-fight-open-carry/1336030782

An attorney for the county tells us it wants a panel of judges to review the appeals court decision in hopes of having the ruling overturned.

I guess if that happens, it'll be filed for the Supreme Court to hear?

If you don't like Trump at all, you have to at the very least appreciate his beating Clinton so she's not appointing anti-2A justices.

Perhaps they need more time to find a better attorney.

I hope it goes to SCOTUS after Kavanaugh is appointed.

I guess if that happens, it'll be filed for the Supreme Court to hear?

If you don't like Trump at all, you have to at the very least appreciate his beating Clinton so she's not appointing anti-2A justices.

I was looking up the judges for 9th Circuit (as well as others).  Not surprisingly Bill Clinton was responsible for appointing a bunch of the judges on the 9th Circuit.   

I hope it goes to SCOTUS after Kavanaugh is appointed.

If it goes there quickly, and there are only 8 judges, and it's a 4 to 4 split vote, then the original ruling my the 9th circuit stands.  So win, win.

If it goes there quickly, and there are only 8 judges, and it's a 4 to 4 split vote, then the original ruling my the 9th circuit stands.  So win, win.

I takes a long time before the case is even heard, and then more time to make a decision and write opinions