Don't use Tula 308 (Read 6293 times)

justin1098

Don't use Tula 308
« on: August 12, 2018, 10:30:32 PM »
I had a case failure with Tula 308 today. I was shooting my STG58 and I felt shit hit my face, which is not normal for this rifle. I checked the action and noticed a failure to feed. I then noticed that my magazine blew out the floor plate. The rifle is fine. The mag widened out at the base. I found the case, it was missing the primer and had a nice crack in the extractor groove.

This wasn't a huge deal, but feels like a near miss.

So... I am done with Tula. Forever. Not worth the risk.

I have 4 boxes left. I don't know what I should do with them. I bought from young guns when they were on sale, but I didn't keep the receipt.

Q

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 11:01:42 PM »
Not sure why people keep bringing in tulammo.

Either wolf, brown bear, golden tiger (for fun) or gtfo.

2ahavvaii

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 10:42:58 AM »
probably should either sell it with a disclaimer or pull the bullet, powder, and primers, then reload into good brass.

hvybarrels

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 10:44:56 AM »
The AK stuff work pretty well for me but then again it's an AK and will eat just about anything
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

drck1000

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 10:48:16 AM »
Assume this is 7.62x39.

I’ve never shot that ammo, but from what I hear, folks shoot it by the case. Seems like it’s prettu widely available and cheap. I almost bought a case a while back, but ended up needing the cash for other things. I’ll definitely look into track record of this ammo before buying.

I’ve shot their .223 Rem stuff and it crappy and didn’t function well in my middy guns. I was hoping to test it out in a carbine gas gun as I suspected the carbine gas system would function better. But since then, the pricing on Tula has been same as brass ammo and hard to find, so I haven’t tried. My interest in the Tula .223 was when brass was like $500/1000 (or more) and could get Tula around $250/1000.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2018, 03:02:07 PM by drck1000 »

changemyoil66

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 10:48:27 AM »
I thought about buying their 223 ammo when they had a sale.  But the reviews on line for Tula weren't that great.  They're a grade below wolf steel cased.

Ive used wolf steel case and had no issues, just dirty as hell.  Wasn't worth my time to clean (8 mins with brass vs. 35 mins with wolf).  And I read that Tula is dirtier than Wolf.
Many reviews of the Tula 223, people were reporting the base of the case being ripped/torn off.  So to get the rest of the casing out was a PITA.

mangosteenqueen

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 02:37:48 PM »
I remember a couple years ago right when tulammo switched to the zinc/silver color plating, 1 empty case out of a case of 1000 rounds got stuck in the chamber of my psa upper (new upper at the time) and I had to ram it out with a cleaning rod.
The rim of the casing was stripped too.
After that I was done with tulammo. Me and a friend shot it all and never bought any tulammo 223 since then.

dustoff003

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 09:57:01 PM »
I’ll take the remaining ammo for proper disposal. Doesn’t matter if you had the receipt or not ammo is a final sale non returnable item. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 10:09:57 PM »
I’ll take the remaining ammo for proper disposal. Doesn’t matter if you had the receipt or not ammo is a final sale non returnable item.

Contact the manufacturer.  The more reports they get, the more likely they can identify a manufacturing problem and fix it.  If nothing else, they may replace your ammo with a different batch.

Nothing gets fixed if you don't give people a chance to make it right.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

luckydog1

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2018, 06:27:33 AM »

"Nothing gets fixed if you don't give people a chance to make it right."  Correcto Mundo!!  This is what has made America great imo.  And this is what a lot of us have forgotten.

changemyoil66

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2018, 08:41:21 AM »
I remember a couple years ago right when tulammo switched to the zinc/silver color plating, 1 empty case out of a case of 1000 rounds got stuck in the chamber of my psa upper (new upper at the time) and I had to ram it out with a cleaning rod.
The rim of the casing was stripped too.
After that I was done with tulammo. Me and a friend shot it all and never bought any tulammo 223 since then.

Most reviews online (Cabelas, Dicks, Bass, etc..) reported about 1-3 rds per case.  So that's not a high failure rate, but the type of failure sucks.  Like you had, base being ripped off and casing stuck in chamber.  I can deal with FTF or FTE's, but a stuck case ends your entire range day.

2ahavvaii

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2018, 10:41:17 AM »
I remember a couple years ago right when tulammo switched to the zinc/silver color plating, 1 empty case out of a case of 1000 rounds got stuck in the chamber of my psa upper (new upper at the time) and I had to ram it out with a cleaning rod.
The rim of the casing was stripped too.
After that I was done with tulammo. Me and a friend shot it all and never bought any tulammo 223 since then.

that is why its a good idea to bring a rod and some rube when you shoot. 

justin1098

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2018, 09:28:45 PM »
I don't know how effective contacting the ruskies via their website will be, but i'll give it a shot.

I plan on shooting friday or saturday. The ammo is free to anyone who wants it.

drck1000

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 06:57:20 AM »
I don't know how effective contacting the ruskies via their website will be, but i'll give it a shot.

I plan on shooting friday or saturday. The ammo is free to anyone who wants it.
Just curious, but are you swearing off Tulammo because of this one experience?  Or combined with previous bad experiences as well? 

justin1098

Re: Don't use Tula 308
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2018, 07:24:55 PM »
I saw the stories on the interwebs and naively thought it wouldn't happen to me. As dubya says "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again."

Also, FAL mags are rare as hen's teeth these days. I can't be blowing them up.