Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018 (Read 14918 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Okay, he really didn't do that.   :shake:

But, let's say he did.  You have until the day after Halloween to prepare.

Will you be:

- an Active Participant, roaming about, committing crimes, looting, taking revenge, targeting people who pissed you off, etc.? (Offensive Posture)

- a Passive Participant, not actively targeting anyone in particular, but willing to engage anyone who targets your home? (Defensive Posture)

- a Non-participant, holing up in a "safe space" to avoid the mayhem? (Neutral)

- Some other "mode"?

Once you choose a mode, how would you prioritize your preparations before November?

Would you seek safety in large numbers?  Try to gather people with specific skills, like military, medical, construction?

I imagine the cruise line business would get lots of takers if they scheduled a trip leaving Oahu (or any US state) that afternoon.   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2018, 07:56:04 AM »
Play Fortnite
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changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 08:49:31 AM »
-Other-

Run around naked all day/night after consuming about 19 red bulls.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2018, 12:37:13 PM »
-Other-

Run around naked all day/night after consuming about 19 red bulls.

That's a sure-fire way to be an early casualty.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Trumper

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2018, 12:42:22 PM »
so dumb

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2018, 12:43:39 PM »
so dumb


Thanks for sharing.   :geekdanc:

If you don't want to play, just move along.   :wave:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Drakiir84

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2018, 12:48:01 PM »
Grab popcorn, head to panic room lol.
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-Jeff Cooper

changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 12:55:01 PM »
I heard about this movie, but couldn't find myself watching it because the reactions of the non-criminals are dumb.  if someone came into my home uninvited during the purge and there are no laws and no consequences, then I would blast away and even forget about gun safety rule (know what's beyond your target).  Actually, I probably would be setting off pop shots all night just for fun.  Gotta make sure you got lots of ammo.

Or if I'm uber rich, hire contractors to protect me and my family.  You have all year to prepare right?  Or are guns illegal for normal citizens also?  So only bad guys have guns, as in the 2nd amendment is gone.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2018, 01:00:08 PM »
I heard about this movie, but couldn't find myself watching it because the reactions of the non-criminals are dumb.  if someone came into my home uninvited during the purge and there are no laws and no consequences, then I would blast away and even forget about gun safety rule (know what's beyond your target).  Actually, I probably would be setting off pop shots all night just for fun.  Gotta make sure you got lots of ammo.

Or if I'm uber rich, hire contractors to protect me and my family.  You have all year to prepare right?  Or are guns illegal for normal citizens also?  So only bad guys have guns, as in the 2nd amendment is gone.

There's a limited series being aired on USA starting September 4th.  It looks to be more detailed, showing the variety of ways people deal with purge night than the movies did.




The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2018, 01:13:02 PM »
Forgot to mention, this is the same reason why I couldn't start watching The Walking Dead.  First episode when the guy went into the tank.  The other guys were on the roof and the racist white guy was giving the black guy a hard time.  Black guy had gun.  No laws due to outbreak.  If I were the black guy, I would have shot the WS guy.

I know it's only a TV show, but not realistic/believable enough for me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2018, 01:28:53 PM »
Forgot to mention, this is the same reason why I couldn't start watching The Walking Dead.  First episode when the guy went into the tank.  The other guys were on the roof and the racist white guy was giving the black guy a hard time.  Black guy had gun.  No laws due to outbreak.  If I were the black guy, I would have shot the WS guy.

I know it's only a TV show, but not realistic/believable enough for me.

If you think the most unrealistic part of TWD was a Black guy didn't get gangster on a racist redneck, and not all the zombies everywhere trying to eat the living, I'd say your "fantasy filter" need tuning.   :rofl:

BTW, Merle (redneck) was armed, shooting a rifle from the rooftop -- up until the time he was cuffed by Rick (Sheriff) to the rooftop equipment.

To explain the dynamics, you have to visualize how these people were all part of a group, depending on each other to survive.  If you execute one group member, there's nothing stopping the others from executing you.  Merle had a brother in the group: Darryl.  Pretty sure he'd have something to say about his brother's murder.

Then you also have to factor in individual morality and social order. Cooperation = survival.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2018, 02:09:10 PM »
If you think the most unrealistic part of TWD was a Black guy didn't get gangster on a racist redneck, and not all the zombies everywhere trying to eat the living, I'd say your "fantasy filter" need tuning.   :rofl:

BTW, Merle (redneck) was armed, shooting a rifle from the rooftop -- up until the time he was cuffed by Rick (Sheriff) to the rooftop equipment.

To explain the dynamics, you have to visualize how these people were all part of a group, depending on each other to survive.  If you execute one group member, there's nothing stopping the others from executing you.  Merle had a brother in the group: Darryl.  Pretty sure he'd have something to say about his brother's murder.

Then you also have to factor in individual morality and social order. Cooperation = survival.

Zombies are real bro.  They even make zombie rounds.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

PeaShooter

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2018, 02:30:09 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 date=1535583301
I heard about this movie, but couldn't find myself watching it because the reactions of the non-criminals are dumb.  if someone came into my home uninvited during the purge and there are no laws and no consequences, then I would blast away and even forget about gun safety rule (know what's beyond your target). Gotta make sure you got lots of ammo.
I only saw the movie fairly recently also when it was on cable TV (someone else's subscription). Forced digital is good for some things (better quality and a few more channels, might not have seen it otherwise) although overall I would revert back to analog if I could.

I think the same as you, I would kill any intruder mercilessly and even use the opportunity to study the most effective and minimum damage required to kill, if possible. Not torture on purpose, and I'd hope for the quickest and most deadly kill to succeed, but if I happened to find myself in a situation where I stood to learn something I would use the opportunity to slice them up and learn what I could so I can kill more effectively next time.

I might be reluctant to shoot up my own house though because I'll break my stuff. I'll only fight if I have to. The last time I had a home invasion (described elsewhere here) I had actually and probably foolishly prioritized my stuff over my own safety in various ways (I did not describe our exact encounters in full detail).

I would not be an active participant as there is no one near me that I want to kill at this time, however if there was, I would consider it. I might also think about looting a company that pissed me off, but there likewise aren't any local ones that fit that category. Except maybe the cable companies but I don't think you can loot much from them.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2018, 04:49:49 PM »
I've given this some thought since seeing the first movie a couple of years ago, and the ads for the upcoming TV series made me rethink some things.

I'd gather up a few family members & friends and charter a medium size boat with higher-than-normal speed.  I'd take enough arms & ammo to defend against any "Purge Pirates" we may encounter.

Another idea for quick prepping was buying a shipping container and keeping it at the dock.  Unless someone knows we're there, it would be tough to find our container among hundreds.  The container would be fire resistant, difficult to breach, and a few hidden gun ports would keep potential attackers at bay.

I'd likely reinforce the walls with steel plates, since the container may not be very bullet-proof.  I'd also need to add an emergency exit of some kind -- maybe a tunnel -- just in case it's breached or the doors get locked with us inside.

Lots of other ideas, but those have the highest probability of survival.  Basically, I'd be neutral.  While it's tempting to take advantage of such an opportunity, I'd be more concerned with my family's safety.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2018, 12:41:04 PM »
Get some "like minded" (i.e. gun enthusiasts and at least somewhat aware of prepping) friends and head to the nearest Costco or Sams.  Preferrably a location with masonry or concrete exterior walls.  And should have plenty of popcorn there. . .  ;D

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2018, 12:49:43 PM »
Get some "like minded" (i.e. gun enthusiasts and at least somewhat aware of prepping) friends and head to the nearest Costco or Sams.  Preferrably a location with masonry or concrete exterior walls.  And should have plenty of popcorn there. . .  ;D

I'd definitely find a commercial location to wait it out.  Homes would burn in a few minutes and have no real chance of withstanding an invasion.

Sam's or Costco offers a huge supply of anything you need, but you'd need a LOT of friends to defend a space that big.  Front doors, delivery bays, emergency exits, ceilings .... Lots of areas to eyeball.

In the same vein as a cargo container, maybe a rental storage unit would be a good choice?  Already has standard security features, and no one would notice you stockpiling gear and supplies.

I'd still have to reinforce the door with a piece of steel.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2018, 12:53:39 PM »
  Homes would burn in a few minutes and have no real chance of withstanding an invasion.



I'd still have to reinforce the door with a piece of steel.

Jet fuel burns at 1500F and steel melts at 2750F... :popcorn:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2018, 12:54:43 PM »
Jet fuel burns at 1500F and steel melts at 2750F... :popcorn:

Costco doesn't sell jet fuel.

I asked.     :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2018, 01:04:28 PM »
I'd definitely find a commercial location to wait it out.  Homes would burn in a few minutes and have no real chance of withstanding an invasion.

Sam's or Costco offers a huge supply of anything you need, but you'd need a LOT of friends to defend a space that big.  Front doors, delivery bays, emergency exits, ceilings .... Lots of areas to eyeball.

In the same vein as a cargo container, maybe a rental storage unit would be a good choice?  Already has standard security features, and no one would notice you stockpiling gear and supplies.

I'd still have to reinforce the door with a piece of steel.
I was half kidding, but half serious.  And I think I could get enough like minded folks to join in, but then again, some of them might have already taken over said Costco.

Another opportunity are those warehouses in Halawa.  Like Paradise Beverage, which is hopefully close to the chips and snack distributors.  Their warehouses might be sheet metal though. . . :kickcan:

But seriously, I'd look to get somewhere with a small group of friends and defend it.  When opportunity arises, go out and scavenge.  So mostly a defensive mindset. 

changemyoil66

Re: Trump signs Executive Order for First Annual Purge Night: Nov 1, 2018
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2018, 01:38:38 PM »
I was half kidding, but half serious.  And I think I could get enough like minded folks to join in, but then again, some of them might have already taken over said Costco.

Another opportunity are those warehouses in Halawa.  Like Paradise Beverage, which is hopefully close to the chips and snack distributors.  Their warehouses might be sheet metal though. . . :kickcan:

But seriously, I'd look to get somewhere with a small group of friends and defend it.  When opportunity arises, go out and scavenge.  So mostly a defensive mindset.

I think Costco would be over kill, isn't the purge only 24 hours?  So no need scavenge either.  Best bet would be to make a guillie suit and lay down in the bush for 24 hours.  Or better yet, buy lots of ammo and just randomly shoot our your window and doors.  Pretty sure criminals won't attempt to fight and would rather have a softer target.  Suppressing fire.