Kavanaugh hearing chaos (Read 209792 times)

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2018, 04:56:59 PM »
From what I read it turns out the girl was locked in a room by Kavanaugh and another male. She felt threatened and was able to escape from the room. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Are you kidding me? Do you know how embarrassing this has to be for Feinstein? She knew about this for months before she released it. She didn’t release it during the hearing because she knows it is a nothing burger. It is the people she is financially beholden to that is making her make a fool of herself. She is bought and paid for like most politicians. She is committing political suicide. 

This is what happens with anonymous sources. Everything is exaggerated. Everything is overblown. And the naive believe the anonymous source because of their dislike of Trump. This goes directly to the other thread about the accusations from Woodward’s book and the anonymous op-ed from the NYT. Anonymous sourced material is suspect and believed by those who hate Trump. There is no other good reason to believe anything from anonymous sources.
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macsak

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2018, 07:19:43 PM »
From what I read it turns out the girl was locked in a room by Kavanaugh and another male. She felt threatened and was able to escape from the room. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Are you kidding me? Do you know how embarrassing this has to be for Feinstein? She knew about this for months before she released it. She didn’t release it during the hearing because she knows it is a nothing burger. It is the people she is financially beholden to that is making her make a fool of herself. She is bought and paid for like most politicians. She is committing political suicide. 

This is what happens with anonymous sources. Everything is exaggerated. Everything is overblown. And the naive believe the anonymous source because of their dislike of Trump. This goes directly to the other thread about the accusations from Woodward’s book and the anonymous op-ed from the NYT. Anonymous sourced material is suspect and believed by those who hate Trump. There is no other good reason to believe anything from anonymous sources.

macsak

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2018, 07:22:27 PM »

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #83 on: September 15, 2018, 07:16:09 AM »

OMG!!! Is she alive in this video? I get the impression she won’t make it another 6 years.
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Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2018, 07:20:43 AM »
I dont think I could have said this any better:

Judge Jeanine: To Dems, you're guilty until proven innocent

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5835361179001/
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #85 on: September 16, 2018, 08:47:57 PM »
OMG!!! Is she alive in this video? I get the impression she won’t make it another 6 years.

Apparently she has quite the rigorous exercise routine, at least given her age. Who knows how long she will last.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #86 on: September 16, 2018, 08:59:20 PM »
From what I read it turns out the girl was locked in a room by Kavanaugh and another male. She felt threatened and was able to escape from the room. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Are you kidding me? Do you know how embarrassing this has to be for Feinstein? She knew about this for months before she released it. She didn’t release it during the hearing because she knows it is a nothing burger. It is the people she is financially beholden to that is making her make a fool of herself. She is bought and paid for like most politicians. She is committing political suicide. 

This is what happens with anonymous sources. Everything is exaggerated. Everything is overblown. And the naive believe the anonymous source because of their dislike of Trump. This goes directly to the other thread about the accusations from Woodward’s book and the anonymous op-ed from the NYT. Anonymous sourced material is suspect and believed by those who hate Trump. There is no other good reason to believe anything from anonymous sources.

The writer wasn't exactly anonymous, her ID was known to the senator who received the letter but the name was kept confidential. Apparently her story was also made public without her consent too.

Well now the writer of the letter has apparently now gone public with her claim. Not sure whether this will bring him down or not but the details of her allegation are rather serious, as in justified use of deadly force serious.

I don't see this looking good for republicans if he gets confirmed. Not as bad as Roy Moore's endorsement but still looks bad. Unless the accuser's story is found to suffer some significant factual errors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.e34972893c46

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #87 on: September 17, 2018, 02:28:23 AM »
The writer wasn't exactly anonymous, her ID was known to the senator who received the letter but the name was kept confidential. Apparently her story was also made public without her consent too.

Well now the writer of the letter has apparently now gone public with her claim. Not sure whether this will bring him down or not but the details of her allegation are rather serious, as in justified use of deadly force serious.

I don't see this looking good for republicans if he gets confirmed. Not as bad as Roy Moore's endorsement but still looks bad. Unless the accuser's story is found to suffer some significant factual errors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.e34972893c46

Nothing ever looks good to you for Trump, Republicans, Conservatives, 2A supporters, ...

Considering the fact that more people obviously care more about substance than appearance, given the political power shift in DC and at the state level in recent years, I have to disagree.  Most people are smarter than you give them credit for as long as the truth finds its way to light.

The people don't elect Supreme Court Justices.  Neither do Senators.  The President picks them, and the Senate has the authority of advise and consent, nothing more.   We elected Trump, and it's his job to do the picking.  The GOP in the Senate are not going to allow an obviously rotten judge to slip through the cracks assuming that can be proven.

This whole letter thing is a delay tactic, and even the people who won't admit it know it.  The timing, the way it was made public, the fact there was never any police report, Feinstein trying to prompt an FBI investigation she KNOWS is out of their jurisdiction (She's the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee), and 6 FBI investigations in 15 years for Kavanaugh, PLUS the fact Feinstein never mentioned the letter during a month of hearings, interviews, meetings and hundreds of written questions posed to the nominee.

If they want to investigate a sitting Supreme Court Justice, that's what'll have to happen.  I have $50 that says once he's confirmed, this allegation will die a quiet death with no follow up.

Grassley already said the confirmation vote will happen on schedule for pretty much the same reasons I just posted above. So, any discussion of this accuser gumming up the confirmation is moot.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #88 on: September 17, 2018, 04:35:35 AM »
The writer wasn't exactly anonymous, her ID was known to the senator who received the letter but the name was kept confidential. Apparently her story was also made public without her consent too.

Well now the writer of the letter has apparently now gone public with her claim. Not sure whether this will bring him down or not but the details of her allegation are rather serious, as in justified use of deadly force serious.

I don't see this looking good for republicans if he gets confirmed. Not as bad as Roy Moore's endorsement but still looks bad. Unless the accuser's story is found to suffer some significant factual errors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.e34972893c46
Now that she has come forward, she needs to testify in front of the confirmation committee. If she refuses, then it is a nothing burger. If she does, and I think this is the right thing for her to do, then she can tell her story. This means Kavanaugh and the other accused can then confront their accuser. However, due to all the circumstances surrounding this accusation, especially the games played by Feinstein and the Dems, I still think he gets the appointment.

Since no one can predict the future, we will just have to see how this plays out.
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Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #89 on: September 17, 2018, 06:38:14 AM »
The claws are already coming out regarding Kavanaugh’s accuser. This morning I read reviews of her as a college professor and many of them were not good at all. And then I read that Kavanaugh’s mother presided over the accuser’s parent’s bankruptcy. Can we call her a revengeful nut job yet?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #90 on: September 17, 2018, 07:04:15 AM »
If they have a public hearing for this woman to testify under oath, any bets on how many arrests will be made in the gallery? I'll start: 73.

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #91 on: September 17, 2018, 07:20:32 AM »
I find it a bit, uh, "interesting" that Mr. Judge, the other person present with Ms. Ford (15 at the time), denies the allegation. She also claims the two boys were drunk, but I haven't seen that she said if she was also drunk, or not. She says Mr. Judge jumped on top the them twice (that'd be two more justified use of deadly force occasions according to EEF), the second time causing them all to tumble off the bed. She can't remember whose house it was, where it was, how she got there or how she got home. Curious.

changemyoil66

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #92 on: September 17, 2018, 09:09:18 AM »
At first her story was 4 boys in the room.  Then it changed to 2-3.  The final draft was Kav was on top of her, and another boy walked in just in time.  She's claiming that her marriage counselor took notes incorrectly.

How did the NYT get the "notes" due to that privacy act thing?

Lets not forget she sent letters supporting open borders, donated funds to the Clinton campaign, etc...

If we all got looked at for the things we did in high school, I'm sure most of us would be in trouble.  Willing to bet "just the tip" game is illegal.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #93 on: September 17, 2018, 11:35:27 AM »
The other day, the Democrats sent an additional 1,278 questions to Brett Kavanaugh - more than all other SCOTUS nominees COMBINED.

Can you say "desperation?"   :geekdanc:


A reporter asked President Trump if Brett Kavanaugh is going to withdraw.

POTUS: “What a ridiculous question.”
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #94 on: September 17, 2018, 11:57:52 AM »
The accuser's lawyer is now making the MSM TV circuit giving interviews -- ala Stormy Daniel's "Creepy Porn Lawyer".

She said it's not her client's responsibility to corroborate her accusations.  Really??

The latest details trickling out is there were 4 boys at this party, and 2 girls counting the accuser.


Sorry, but in 1982, 6 high schoolers getting together is not a "party".  It's just hanging out.  "Party" makes it sound like there was a crowd of people, and anyone could sneak off without being noticed.  Not the case here.

Kavanaugh also made a statement that he never attended any party such as the one being described.  He further surmises the accuser must be confusing him with another boy that may have acted inappropriately with her.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #95 on: September 17, 2018, 01:33:42 PM »
LOL!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Now it's being reported that the accuser’s brother worked for the law firm that paid Fusion GPS for work
with the Russian lawyer who set up the Trump Tower meeting.

That's on top of Kavanaugh's mother being the judge that presided over the accuser's parent's foreclosure case.

How much more do we need before the credibility of the accuser hits "zero"?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #96 on: September 17, 2018, 01:44:06 PM »
LOL!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Now it's being reported that the accuser’s brother worked for the law firm that paid Fusion GPS for work
with the Russian lawyer who set up the Trump Tower meeting.

That's on top of Kavanaugh's mother being the judge that presided over the accuser's parent's foreclosure case.

How much more do we need before the credibility of the accuser hits "zero"?
Actually her parents lost two cases where Kavanaugh's mother was the judge: the foreclosure case and another that cost them something like $138,000.

Something for sure doesn't smell right, BUT just because she may be a progressive loon (she scrubbed her social media accounts to erase that record) and just because her family may have grudges against the Kavanaugh family, and just because she's been in therapy her whole life, and just because she's marched with and contributed to the Never Trump organizations, that doesn't mean that she is lying about this. I'm guessing that she may be "misremembering" the event, and/or she's confabulating. Then again she could just be outright lying. I don't think there is ever any way anyone will ever know what happened in that room all those 35 or 36 or 37 years ago (she can't remember what year it was). If it weren't for the #MeToo environment I doubt this would have gotten any play at all...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #97 on: September 17, 2018, 01:51:24 PM »
Actually her parents lost two cases where Kavanaugh's mother was the judge: the foreclosure case and another that cost them something like $138,000.

Something for sure doesn't smell right, BUT just because she may be a progressive loon (she scrubbed her social media accounts to erase that record) and just because her family may have grudges against the Kavanaugh family, and just because she's been in therapy her whole life, and just because she's marched with and contributed to the Never Trump organizations, that doesn't mean that she is lying about this. I'm guessing that she may be "misremembering" the event, and/or she's confabulating. Then again she could just be outright lying. I don't think there is ever any way anyone will ever know what happened in that room all those 35 or 36 or 37 years ago (she can't remember what year it was). If it weren't for the #MeToo environment I doubt this would have gotten any play at all...

This is a very good accounting of the "legal advisor" (I like how they avoided saying it's her lawyer), and the depth to which she is entrenched with her support of all things Democrat and anti-Trump.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/09/16/kavanaugh-accusers-lawyer-part-of-resistance-big-democrat-donor-and-has-trashed-paula-jones-n2519525
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #98 on: September 17, 2018, 02:05:36 PM »
You would think by now that the dems playbook would remove anyone who has ties to the party that they're trying to overthrow.

If she did see a therapist, I want to see receipts.  Credit card, cashed check, insurance co-pay.  No one pays a marriage counselor in cash.

Ruth seems sharper than she looks.  I want to see her walk on stage.  I wonder if she's pulling a FDR.  I guarantee she wants to retire, but the dems are telling her to stay.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2018, 02:14:39 PM »
Well, now the Washington Examiner has an article saying the whole "My parents were foreclosed on by his mother, so I hate him" theory is wrong.

Seems his mother was only one of several judges presiding over that case, that the role she played was minor, and that she is the judge that actually signed a "DISMISSED-WITH PREJUDICE" decision.  Ruling in the accuser's parents' favor hardly makes for a motive almost 4 decades later.

The more you know ...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/no-brett-kavanaughs-mother-didnt-foreclose-on-his-accusers-parents

I know the source is a tabloid, but it wouldn't take much to verify the court documents they mentioned if they're online.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw