Kavanaugh hearing chaos (Read 209916 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #320 on: September 26, 2018, 10:23:57 AM »
The 4 letters "corroborating" Ford's attack are from her husband and 3 friends who were told BY FORD (hearsay) that she was attacked in high school, most without hearing the attacker's name then -- just "a federal judge in DC".

None of those accounts happened before her 2012 therapy session.  So, we are to believe that for 30 years, she told nobody, including her husband.  Then, after a therapist gets her to "remember" the attack, telling four people over the past 6 years is "corroboration?"  Corroboration of what ... that she believes what she said in therapy?  She didn't even get the detail right -- she said 4 people were at the party during therapy according to therapist notes, then changed to 5 or 6 people in this current version.

If her memory is so unreliable about all the details that are missing or keep changing, and people supposedly there have denied the events, and the people "corroborating" the attack only repeat what she herself told them, then there is no corroboration.

Fail.

Fail.

Fail.

Fail.

Fail.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #321 on: September 26, 2018, 11:19:51 AM »
Avantti's accuser is as follows:

1) Was in college when Kav was in high school
2) Attended a high school party
3) Know the gang rapes happen often, still went to 10 other similar parties

As for her story, nothing changes even with the polygraph.  Because details did change since she wrote about the story.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #322 on: September 26, 2018, 12:12:40 PM »
Avantti's accuser is as follows:

1) Was in college when Kav was in high school
2) Attended a high school party
3) Know the gang rapes happen often, still went to 10 other similar parties

As for her story, nothing changes even with the polygraph.  Because details did change since she wrote about the story.

I heard she never said Kavanaugh raped her or anyone else, just that he was one of many boys "waiting" in an adjacent room for his "turn."

So, if attending a "gang rape party" makes you a rapist, she is a rapist 10 times over.  Rape is a crime of power and assault, not merely having nonconsensual sex.  She must have been having a good time to keep showing up.

It's also ridiculous that so many "rape gang parties" were happening, and not ONE SINGLE RAPE VICTIM ever reported these parties and made complaints leading to arrests of any rapists.  Not one single attendee ever reported them to authorities.

So much for "credible."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #323 on: September 26, 2018, 12:35:31 PM »
I heard she never said Kavanaugh raped her or anyone else, just that he was one of many boys "waiting" in an adjacent room for his "turn."

So, if attending a "gang rape party" makes you a rapist, she is a rapist 10 times over.  Rape is a crime of power and assault, not merely having nonconsensual sex.  She must have been having a good time to keep showing up.

It's also ridiculous that so many "rape gang parties" were happening, and not ONE SINGLE RAPE VICTIM ever reported these parties and made complaints leading to arrests of any rapists.  Not one single attendee ever reported them to authorities.

So much for "credible."

She just stated that Kav was "there".  So at the party I guess, but not part of the actual train?  Like how Kav is in DC, and DC has had 4 murders in the pats few days.  Must be Kav's fault since he is "there" also.

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #324 on: September 26, 2018, 12:42:34 PM »
I heard she never said Kavanaugh raped her or anyone else, just that he was one of many boys "waiting" in an adjacent room for his "turn."

So, if attending a "gang rape party" makes you a rapist, she is a rapist 10 times over.  Rape is a crime of power and assault, not merely having nonconsensual sex.  She must have been having a good time to keep showing up.

It's also ridiculous that so many "rape gang parties" were happening, and not ONE SINGLE RAPE VICTIM ever reported these parties and made complaints leading to arrests of any rapists.  Not one single attendee ever reported them to authorities.

So much for "credible."
The latest accuser does say she was a victim of a gang rape at one of the parties, having been secretly dosed with quaaludes or some similar drug. My question is: Where in the series of parties that you went to when you witnessed the gang rapes, did you yourself get raped? If it was at the FIRST party you went to with this group of people, why did you ever go back to more parties when you saw the same thing happening over and over, as it would have been possible for you to be a victim again? If it WASN'T the FIRST party you went to that you got gang raped, but had seen women being gang raped at even a single party, much less more than one, why in the world would you have gone to more parties, knowing gang rapes were taking place, and that you could have been a potential victim (and ultimnately were)? Just curious. Under oath please.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #325 on: September 26, 2018, 12:46:54 PM »
The latest accuser does say she was a victim of a gang rape at one of the parties, having been secretly dosed with quaaludes or some similar drug. My question is: Where in the series of parties that you went to when you witnessed the gang rapes, did you yourself get raped? If it was at the FIRST party you went to with this group of people, why did you ever go back to more parties when you saw the same thing happening over and over, as it would have been possible for you to be a victim again? If it WASN'T the FIRST party you went to that you got gang raped, but had seen women being gang raped at even a single party, much less more than one, why in the world would you have gone to more parties, knowing gang rapes were taking place, and that you could have been a potential victim (and ultimnately were)? Just curious. Under oath please.

It's common sense, if she attended 10 of these parties, nothing close to a gang rape ever happened.  Neither she, any of the victims, nor any of the attendees ever made a report to authorities at the school or law enforcement.  There would be a record somewhere.  Noting there.

Something this outlandish can't stay a secret.  it just can not.  Not enough ways to call "BULLSHIT!!" to describe this woman's story.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #326 on: September 26, 2018, 01:26:10 PM »
It's common sense, if she attended 10 of these parties, nothing close to a gang rape ever happened.  Neither she, any of the victims, nor any of the attendees ever made a report to authorities at the school or law enforcement.  There would be a record somewhere.  Noting there.

Something this outlandish can't stay a secret.  it just can not.  Not enough ways to call "BULLSHIT!!" to describe this woman's story.
That's why I say it reminds me of the McMartin pre-school hysteria, where people ended up spending years in prison before the whole thing was exposed as a "hoax", albeit an unintentional one perpetrated by incompetent psychologists who "questioned" and  "coached" the children until they gave the "right" answers (sexual abuse). Some of the "stories" were so outlandish... going to far distant places and seeing people murdered, being taken up into a UFO, etc. And people were sent to prison until dedicated people were able to slowly uncover, via acquiring public records and private medical records, the actual truth: nothing happened. Seems eerily similar.

drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #327 on: September 26, 2018, 02:14:51 PM »


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Hirono’s involvement in the effort to sink the Kavanaugh nomination is nakedly political. She told Politico last Tuesday that she may try to derail for as long as two years any future Trump appointment. “I think we’ve had those kinds of vacancies before, and we certainly had over a one-year vacancy with Merrick Garland,” Hirono said. “So the world does not come to an end because we don’t fill all of the nominees.”

drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #328 on: September 26, 2018, 02:39:44 PM »
HNN is reporting a 4th and 5th accusers. The 5th is a male! Said “a Mark and a Brett” forced themselves on him while in a boat in RI. Said he knew it was Kav after seeding photo in Kav’s yearbook. Wow! Seriously Twilight Zone.

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #329 on: September 26, 2018, 02:44:40 PM »
HNN is reporting a 4th and 5th accusers. The 5th is a male! Said “a Mark and a Brett” forced themselves on him while in a boat in RI. Said he knew it was Kav after seeding photo in Kav’s yearbook. Wow! Seriously Twilight Zone.
Kav should admit to it so he can be the first openly bi-sexual SCOTUS. What would the Dems say after that? They would have to support him/her.  :rofl: :rofl:  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #330 on: September 26, 2018, 03:20:29 PM »
I love this shit!  :rofl: If someone wrote a tv show or movie with this crap in it people would say "That's too fake. Stuff like that could never happen in real life."

Note the source is leftist Politico.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/ex-boyfriend-filed-restraining-order-against-kavanaugh-accuser-845348

Ex-boyfriend filed restraining order against third Kavanaugh accuser

Julie Swetnick, the woman who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and a friend of attending house parties where women — including herself — were sexually assaulted, had a restraining order filed against her years later in Miami by her former boyfriend.

A Miami-Dade County court docket shows a petition for injunction against Swetnick was filed March 1, 2001, by her former boyfriend, Richard Vinneccy, who told POLITICO Wednesday the two had dated for four years before they broke up.

According to Vinneccy, Swetnick threatened him after they broke up and even after he got married to his current wife and had a child.

“Right after I broke up with her, she was threatening my family, threatening my wife and threatening to do harm to my baby at that time,” Vinneccy said in a telephone interview with POLITICO. "I know a lot about her.”

"She’s not credible at all,” he said. “Not at all.”

Vinneccy made clear that he did not believe her story.

“I have a lot of facts, evidence, that what she’s saying is not true at all,” he said. “I would rather speak to my attorney first before saying more."

Avenatti said called the reporting “outrageous” and accused the press of “digging into the past” of a woman who stepped forward and is willing to testify under oath. [If he said that... well,.. fucking unbelievable...]

punaperson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #331 on: September 26, 2018, 03:46:14 PM »
If this all turns out to be satanic ritual abuse and human sacrifice AND is proven true... I'm moving... to another planet.  :crazy:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #332 on: September 26, 2018, 04:30:32 PM »
Obviously the FBI needs to step up their background checks.  How can all this crap go unreported and undiscovered after so many background checks?  I mean, they interview people based on names given by other interviewees.  At some point, someone who knows something would have been uncovered.

And when did the rate of unreported sexual assault to law enforcement reach 100%?  You mean not one "victim" or "witness" ever reported him?  He must have found Jesus his senior year in college, because all these alleged assaults were much earlier.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #333 on: September 26, 2018, 04:31:33 PM »
Illuminatti I tell ya, Illuminatti...... :sleeping:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

mrgaf

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #334 on: September 26, 2018, 04:32:44 PM »
Illuminatti I tell ya, Illuminatti...... :sleeping:
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #335 on: September 26, 2018, 05:22:18 PM »
They are all full of SHIT!!!  :wtf:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #336 on: September 26, 2018, 05:54:16 PM »
You are not going to believe this one:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36377/judiciary-talking-man-who-thinks-he-forced-ryan-saavedra

Two men have come forward saying they think they are the ones who molested Ford. You can’t make this shit up!!!
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #337 on: September 26, 2018, 06:13:15 PM »
You are not going to believe this one:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36377/judiciary-talking-man-who-thinks-he-forced-ryan-saavedra

Two men have come forward saying they think they are the ones who molested Ford. You can’t make this shit up!!!

I guess they're safe from prosecution since (1) she never filed a complaint, and (2) her accusation of the wrong man seriously brings her testimony into doubt.

Even if they are saying they are the 2 involved, they can still deny sexual assault.  It could have been consensual making out, things got overheated, and she left with nothing happening. And no one put a hand over her mouth.

Who's to say different?  Her?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  "Credibility" isn't just for Democrat talking points.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #338 on: September 26, 2018, 06:20:24 PM »
I guess they're safe from prosecution since (1) she never filed a complaint, and (2) her accusation of the wrong man seriously brings her testimony into doubt.

Even if they are saying they are the 2 involved, they can still deny sexual assault.  It could have been consensual making out, things got overheated, and she left with nothing happening. And no one put a hand over her mouth.

Who's to say different?  Her?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  "Credibility" isn't just for Democrat talking points.
Without going to the proper authorities (Not the FBI) and reporting this incident, none of these women have any credibility whatsoever. If they really want an investigation nothing is stopping them from calling the police. With this new accusation with these two men I wonder if she is going to even show her face tomorrow?

If she doesn’t show, can they take the vote tomorrow?
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Kavanaugh hearing chaos
« Reply #339 on: September 26, 2018, 06:37:27 PM »
Without going to the proper authorities (Not the FBI) and reporting this incident, none of these women have any credibility whatsoever. If they really want an investigation nothing is stopping them from calling the police. With this new accusation with these two men I wonder if she is going to even show her face tomorrow?

If she doesn’t show, can they take the vote tomorrow?
Can’t wait to see what gems Hirono is gonna drop tmrw. Maybe shudder is a more appropriate verb...

A beer says CBF claims she doesn’t feel safe enough to appear tmrw.