Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers (Read 428 times)

Wave Twister

Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« on: October 31, 2018, 08:50:12 AM »
Most vids on the web shows people vacuum packing their rice in mylar bags with oxy absorbers. Do you all think that's completely necessary, considering you've already vacuumed packed the rice? Did you supposedly already remove nearly all the oxygen? I can see for maybe adding in that extra peace of mind for perhaps leaving barely zero oxygen for any bugs/eggs that may be in the rice.

tillamook

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 09:09:10 AM »
Is this for long term emergency food storage? 

You can buy freeze dried staples (rice, pasta, vegetables, meat) that are sealed in a can with oxygen absorbers that have a 25 year shelf life.

If you are going to store your rice for years then oxygen and moister absorbers will only help reduce the chance of a ruined batch when you need it for an emergency.  Plus you can get 100 packets for like $9 on amazon.  Very little cost for some extra insurance. 

I also dont trust do-it-at-home vacuum storage for that long.  I've had stuff in vacuum sealed bags in a cabinet only to find that they leaked a few months later. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 10:00:22 AM »
Is this for long term emergency food storage? 

You can buy freeze dried staples (rice, pasta, vegetables, meat) that are sealed in a can with oxygen absorbers that have a 25 year shelf life.

If you are going to store your rice for years then oxygen and moister absorbers will only help reduce the chance of a ruined batch when you need it for an emergency.  Plus you can get 100 packets for like $9 on amazon.  Very little cost for some extra insurance. 

I also dont trust do-it-at-home vacuum storage for that long.  I've had stuff in vacuum sealed bags in a cabinet only to find that they leaked a few months later.

That's been my experience.  Consumer brand vacuum sealers are great for preventing freezer burn and leaking.  It definitely reduces the space needed for storage of pretty much anything you package.

But, the seals aren't "industrial strength."  The pump can only extract most of the air, not all of it.  The sealer doesn't prevent air from entering the bag while it starts sealing.  And the seal itself is just good enough to close the bag.  Sometimes there are gaps in the seal, and I have to seal it a second time 1/8th inch offset from the first to get a full seal.

Best method for using the sealer for emergency food is to rotate your stock.  Eat it as needed, and replace it with freshly sealed, new food.  That way you'll now if the process works for you.  Results might indicate the need for a more professional/commercial model sealer/bags.
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Rocky

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 01:30:30 PM »
    I seal in Mylar with and with out vacuum and find that in both case's, the Oxy absorber's seem to provide additional  "vacuum" to the package after sealing.
Don't know where the Oxy goes, but the package gets vacuumed tighter.  :wacko:

   Try to seal in bulk at the same time as these things are like the silicon packs once they are opened.
My best way to keep them is sealed in a mason jar.
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changemyoil66

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 02:28:26 PM »
Went to Taiwan and at 1 grocery store, every brand of rice was vacuum sealed.  From the 1 pounder to the 50lbs. 

Wave Twister

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2018, 02:31:58 PM »
Went to Taiwan and at 1 grocery store, every brand of rice was vacuum sealed.  From the 1 pounder to the 50lbs.

That's really damn convenient.

changemyoil66

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 11:19:06 AM »
That's really damn convenient.

When transporting because it's not a limp noodle while carrying.  and looks nice on the shelves all stacked together.

I wanted to bring home a bag, but the lady who worked there said I couldn't.  Never asked customs, but I'm sure she wants me to buy so she wouldn't have told me the wrong info on purpose.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 12:04:25 PM »
When transporting because it's not a limp noodle while carrying.  and looks nice on the shelves all stacked together.

I wanted to bring home a bag, but the lady who worked there said I couldn't.  Never asked customs, but I'm sure she wants me to buy so she wouldn't have told me the wrong info on purpose.

I think it has to do with Japan's agricultural policies in general.  Their ag industry is inefficient and unable to sustain the country, so they import the majority of their food.  Laws are in place to protect as much "self-sufficiency" in ag products as possible.  For every kilo of rice they allow to be taken out of the country, they have to replace it -- likely by buying from foreign markets.

Their policies have been the same since the 60's.  Lot's of detail on all of this can be found here:

https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1819&context=jil
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macsak

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 12:37:04 PM »
I think it has to do with Japan's agricultural policies in general.  Their ag industry is inefficient and unable to sustain the country, so they import the majority of their food.  Laws are in place to protect as much "self-sufficiency" in ag products as possible.  For every kilo of rice they allow to be taken out of the country, they have to replace it -- likely by buying from foreign markets.

Their policies have been the same since the 60's.  Lot's of detail on all of this can be found here:

https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1819&context=jil

focus
he said "Taiwan"

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Storing Rice and Oxy Absorbers
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2018, 12:41:14 PM »
focus
he said "Taiwan"

I saw "rice".  Easy stereotype.   :wave:
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