*UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN (Read 49359 times)

rpoL98

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #80 on: January 28, 2019, 02:49:59 PM »
Already heard the first story of people out burying their rifles. 

as they say, if it is time to bury your guns it is time to use them.
if it's time to bury your ARs and Glocks, then for your nightstand, maybe now is the time to buy that 44 cal blackpowder cap & ball revolver?  not a "firearm", doesn't need to be registered, can't be confiscated, not illegal (yet), shipped to your house via USPS, no FFL.  but that chainfire thing...

Heavies

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #81 on: January 28, 2019, 05:26:32 PM »
Just throwing this out there. 

What if every owner, of a type that is planned to be banned,  shows up to Kokohead, and other shooting ranges on other islands, with their weapons, all on the same day and have a "I am NOT A FELON" range day?  Jam pack the place, share benches with everyone else, let each other try their stuff, just have a fun and awesome shooting event in protest.

How many thousands of people would that be?  What if the news covered it?  What if there where some eloquent speakers there to give statements and inform the general public?

Think more people would show up for that instead of trying to get people to the capitol on a very short notice?

YOU KNOW THEY WILL KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SECRET TILL THE LAST MINUTE AGAIN!   They don't give one shit about what we have to say at the hearings anyway.  (80-90% oppose to bills yet they pass?  :wtf:

Heavies

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #82 on: January 28, 2019, 05:31:58 PM »
Could also bring up the other "hotel ban" bills in on the plate too, and any other BS law they want to throw around, protest that too...  Have Absentee Ballot applications handy and statements that any person signed on to these bills WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER VOTE from the people attending.

edster48

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2019, 05:56:13 PM »
Just throwing this out there. 

What if every owner, of a type that is planned to be banned,  shows up to Kokohead, and other shooting ranges on other islands, with their weapons, all on the same day and have a "I am NOT A FELON" range day?  Jam pack the place, share benches with everyone else, let each other try their stuff, just have a fun and awesome shooting event in protest.

How many thousands of people would that be?  What if the news covered it?  What if there where some eloquent speakers there to give statements and inform the general public?

Think more people would show up for that instead of trying to get people to the capitol on a very short notice?

YOU KNOW THEY WILL KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SECRET TILL THE LAST MINUTE AGAIN!   They don't give one shit about what we have to say at the hearings anyway.  (80-90% oppose to bills yet they pass?  :wtf:


Do this at the state capitol, then they'll pay attention.

It's time for some civil disobedience.
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Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

Mdotweber

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #84 on: January 28, 2019, 06:04:46 PM »
KHON just ran a segment outlining how handgun purchases have gone up. Joe Moore, went on to talk about the rise in gun deaths and then gave a half a$$ correlation to increased handgun ownership. So now it starts, I imagine a push for extra handgun based legislation on the horizon. For all you pistol owners that don't want to give a f$ck about us with guns on the chopping block YOU are next. No gun is safe. We all must work together to beat this. Next hunting rifles will be classified as "High Powered Sniper Rifles". These leftists will not stop with us scary AR owners. Pick up the damn phone and bug your legislators. Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick, but this is no time to beat around the bush and tread lightly. We must light a fire under every gun owners  a$$ NOW!
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

ren

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #85 on: January 28, 2019, 06:23:23 PM »
KHON just ran a segment outlining how handgun purchases have gone up. Joe Moore, went on to talk about the rise in gun deaths and then gave a half a$$ correlation to increased handgun ownership. So now it starts, I imagine a push for extra handgun based legislation on the horizon. For all you pistol owners that don't want to give a f$ck about us with guns on the chopping block YOU are next. No gun is safe. We all must work together to beat this. Next hunting rifles will be classified as "High Powered Sniper Rifles". These leftists will not stop with us scary AR owners. Pick up the damn phone and bug your legislators. Sorry if I'm coming off as a dick, but this is no time to beat around the bush and tread lightly. We must light a fire under every gun owners  a$$ NOW!

There's a correlation between what he wears on his head and calls it hair and what he spews as FAKE news.
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Bota-CS1

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2019, 07:38:17 PM »
I think your "citation" is a great out of the box idea Zipps.

Currently very busy with work, but I am spreading the word via social media private messages.  I don't post shooting stuff on my FB or IG for security reasons.

I am planning on volunteering at the HDF booth at the gun show.  The wife and I always do.  If they don't need help, I can help you guys out if HIFICO has a booth.

Or would March be to late?

Someone should stand in handcuffs at the range with a sign saying they’re a felon and their only crime was having a box magazine. 
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

hvybarrels

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2019, 07:40:01 PM »
"Semi Auto is not a crime"
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rpoL98

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2019, 08:21:59 PM »
"Semi Auto is not a crime"
but in Commiefornia, "Full Semi Auto" is.

tillamook

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #89 on: January 29, 2019, 08:32:40 AM »
Heard from someone else about people burying their guns.  Sounds like their might be a bit of non-compliance. 

Since it is not yet illegal to have a plastic bag here, these are some excellent anti-corrosion bags for long term storage.  Great for storing pretty much any metal that can corrode in the humidity here
https://www.bluguardvci.com/shop-vacuum/

On a side note I figured out the state legislature.  They are like the insane people who run home owners associations who like everyone to do what they say. 

PalisadesKid

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #90 on: January 29, 2019, 10:09:49 AM »
SENATE BILL 1334 (companion bill to HB 1303) was assigned to the JDC and PSM committee on the senate side.

I just got off the phone with Senator Nishihara's office as I am a constituent and the Senator is Chair of the PSM committee.

Spoke with "Alec" as the Senator was not available and he reiterated to me that "the Senator and his office is aware of the concerns" citing meeting with HiFiCo Zippz and others. Alec cites "wide sweeping bills tend to be problematic".

IF YOU HAVEN'T CALLED, PLEASE KEEP CALLING THESE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

changemyoil66

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #91 on: January 29, 2019, 10:13:08 AM »
Heard from someone else about people burying their guns.  Sounds like their might be a bit of non-compliance. 

Since it is not yet illegal to have a plastic bag here, these are some excellent anti-corrosion bags for long term storage.  Great for storing pretty much any metal that can corrode in the humidity here
https://www.bluguardvci.com/shop-vacuum/

On a side note I figured out the state legislature.  They are like the insane people who run home owners associations who like everyone to do what they say.

Or you could sell it to a friend in a free state for $1.  Then buy it back for $1 if the law gets overturned.

tillamook

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2019, 10:20:51 AM »
Talked to retired LEO today who did not hear about this bill yet.  He has firearms at risk.  He is going to be emailing his group to inform them to get them

changemyoil66

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2019, 10:25:54 AM »
Talked to retired LEO today who did not hear about this bill yet.  He has firearms at risk.  He is going to be emailing his group to inform them to get them

Yes retired/former LEO is not excluded.  But I'm sure they take care of their own, but that's not the point.  I'm glad he will talk to his people/union.

tillamook

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2019, 10:29:41 AM »
Yes retired/former LEO is not excluded.  But I'm sure they take care of their own, but that's not the point.  I'm glad he will talk to his people/union.

He said "I dont think they will shoot fellow officers but they are not giving them up"

Mdotweber

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2019, 11:11:20 AM »
just tried calling lee's office, my call wouldnt go through. thats a good sign maybe they are getting tired of the phone calls. Keep it up people!

some good talking points:
this bill helps create a black market.

it will give another reason for young people (skilled laborers) to move away taking tax dollars with them.

 it is an infringment on our chosen "lifestyle"(use their kind of talking points)
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

6716J

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2019, 11:17:18 AM »
Going to be just like CA
llllAssault rifle" means a semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following characteristics:

But they refuse to define detachable so they can be ambiguous in their interpretation
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

PalisadesKid

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2019, 11:52:52 AM »
Yes retired/former LEO is not excluded. But I'm sure they take care of their own, but that's not the point.  I'm glad he will talk to his people/union.

Interesting to note as the assistant to Senator Nishihara told me this morning that if they get into language that exempts certain demographics/groups, then it will run into a problem as it will conflict with the Constitution.

Im thinking "really?" Cause there's quite a BIT of things on the books that already conflict with the Constitution ....  ;)

changemyoil66

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2019, 12:33:33 PM »
Interesting to note as the assistant to Senator Nishihara told me this morning that if they get into language that exempts certain demographics/groups, then it will run into a problem as it will conflict with the Constitution.

Im thinking "really?" Cause there's quite a BIT of things on the books that already conflict with the Constitution ....  ;)

You should ask him if he read the bill of rights recently.  More specifically the 2nd part.

tillamook

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2019, 12:48:24 PM »
Interesting to note as the assistant to Senator Nishihara told me this morning that if they get into language that exempts certain demographics/groups, then it will run into a problem as it will conflict with the Constitution.

Im thinking "really?" Cause there's quite a BIT of things on the books that already conflict with the Constitution ....  ;)

did they say which translation of the constitution they were using?  It is the one that is translated to japanese and back 5 times?

"A well-controlled militia of free countries to maintain the security and armed forces, and for the right to own armed groups, and should not encroach."