*UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN (Read 49409 times)

punaperson

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #140 on: February 03, 2019, 07:30:51 AM »
We mostly sit around and whine that we may offend anti-guners if we use to strong of words.
I say fuck those people.

n2kilo

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS - My online testimony
« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2019, 09:01:24 PM »
Thank you to the gentlemen at the Hawaii Firearms Coalition. For those writing testimony and or letters. I would like to hang some of my testimony here so others can use it as a go by. Not sure what its worth, but this is a topic i do know a little bit about. If there is a desire for more ill post other testimony so you guys can use it for your own. Im skeptical anyone is actually listening. But we need to do what we can.

To whom it may concern regarding SB556 which adds an additional requirement for notification of the FBI Terrorist Screening Center to the gun permit application background check.
I respectfully ask that you oppose this bill for the following reasons:
1.   These checks will not result in terrorists being unable to obtain a firearm. Being on the list does not mean that you are guilty of terrorism. It means that you are under suspicion. In the United States you are innocent until proven guilty. The 14th Amendment of the constitution demands due process and equal protection under the law. Furthermore, how does the FBI intend to receive, handle, transmit, and store the information of honest, law abiding US citizens personal information that is submitted to the TSC?
2.   Related to the above – the TSC is fraught with errors and dangers to civil liberties. Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Calif was mistakenly added to the Terrorist Watch List and was not able to fly. Additional Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass was also on the terror watch list.  McClintock was mistaken for an IRA terrorist and spent months getting off of the list. Ted Kennedy took months to clear his name. Imagine what it takes for a normal person – not a politician? The TSC has a very low standard for nomination. You don’t need a complete criminal case or a trial. You just have to be suspected. This is a clear violation of the 14th Amendment, especially since it infringes on the 2nd Amendment. There is not a constitutional right to fly, but there is one to keep and bear arms. Even the ACLU has stated that the TSC is a violation of basic civil liberties.
3.   Submitting names to the TSC will add to the burden already borne by US law enforcement and intelligence officials. Instead of hunting for terrorists, the bill will have them hunting honest citizens. Furthermore – there is no federal law authorizing the TSC to provide this kind of screening for gun control. Unless there is federal legislation this bill will be worthless.
4.   TSC screening is ineffective as a means of preventing terrorism. It by itself will not prevent terror attacks. Only a full investigation and authorized, warranted surveillance will prevent an attack before it occurs.
5.   Being on the terrorist watch list did not prevent the pulse night club shooting: Omar Mateen was on the list but was taken off by the FBI. He was taken off because they did not have a viable investigation. He committed no crime until then. The Boston Bombers: One of Tsarnaev brothers who conducted the boston marathon bombing were also on the list and it did not prevent them from building a pressure cooker bomber. They did not use a gun. Nor did the terrorist in the 2016 Nice, France attack – that man used a truck, and the 2018 New York Truck Attack – did not use again. This bill will be completely ineffective in prevent terror.
6.   However this bill will be effective in targeting honest, law abiding citizens. It will have a chilling effect on those who practice and enjoy their 2nd amendment rights. The chilling effect comes from the threat that their names will be sent to the FBI to go into the same database that terrorists are in. This appears to send a dark message: as gun owners can be assumed to be a part of a specific political, social, and economic stripe: be warned. This is hardly a message of Aloha in the Aloha State.
7.   These gun control bills waste legislative time when the Senate needs to be focused on issues that are making Hawaii unlivable: the cost of health care, care for our elderly, the cost of housing, our gridlocked highways, homelessness, and mental health. Focus on issues that matter for the most people – not narrow bills that’s victimizes men and women who serve and law-abiding citizens who are part of your solution and not the problem.  This bill will feel good to those who pass it. The majority of honest people won’t know that it even passed. The only ones who will are the ones who face criminalization for owning a firearm in hawaii.
8.   I urge you to not support future bills that target law abiding citizens with infringements on their constitutional rights. Target criminals.

kaloman

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #142 on: February 06, 2019, 08:43:59 PM »
Done, submitted testimony through Hawaii Firearms Coalition website opposing these bills.  Thank you Hawaii Firearms Coalition for making it easy for us to do so. 

changemyoil66

Re: *UPDATED* - THREE! ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS
« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2019, 11:15:31 AM »
Zipps/london, contact dogs of war 808 (airsoft). I msg them via IG and they havent heard of the bills.

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PalisadesKid

Re: *UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN
« Reply #144 on: February 07, 2019, 11:11:15 PM »
ONE AWB down, TWO REMAIN. HB1531 did not meet it's triple referral deadline at 6pm HST 02/07/2019, therefore its considered dead for 2019... but they'll try AGAIN in 2020.

HB 1303 AND SB 1334 REMAIN IN THEIR RESPECTIVE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEES.

Two bills, SAME GOAL - to ban and confiscate pretty much every common semi auto rifle and semi auto shotgun and certain pistols from in existence from Hawaii.

As of this post both bills remain with their respective Public Safety Committees and no hearing has been scheduled YET, but you can get ahead of the game and start contacting committee members and state "I OPPOSE BILL" and "REQUEST NO HEARING BE SCHEDULED" as follows:

STATE "I OPPOSE HOUSE BILL SB1303":

HOUSE PUBLIC SAFETY (PVM)
CHAIR
Gregg Takayama
House District 34
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 323
phone: 808-586-6340
fax: 808-586-6341
reptakayama@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Cedric Asuega Gates
House District 44
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 311
phone: 808-586-8460
fax: 808-586-8464
repgates@Capitol.hawaii.gov

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY (JUD):

CHAIR
Chris Lee
House District 51
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 302
phone: 808-586-9450
fax: 808-586-9456
replee@Capitol.hawaii.gov

VICE CHAIR
Joy A. San Buenaventura
House District 4
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 442
phone: 808-586-6530
fax: 808-586-6531
repsanbuenaventura@Capitol.hawaii.gov



TO STATE "I OPPOSE SENATE BILL SB1334":

SENATE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY

Chair
Clarence K. Nishihara
Senate District 17
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 214
phone: 808-586-6970
fax: 808-586-6879
sennishihara@capitol.hawaii.gov
 
Vice Chair
Glenn Wakai
Senate District 15
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 407
phone: 808-586-8585
fax: 808-586-8588
senwakai@capitol.hawaii.gov

SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY:

CHAIR
Karl Rhoads
Senate District 13
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 204
phone: 808-586-6130
fax: 808-586-6131
senrhoads@capitol.hawaii.gov

VICE Vice Chair
Glenn Wakai
Senate District 15
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 407
phone: 808-586-8585
fax: 808-586-8588
senwakai@capitol.hawaii.gov

Pillow

Re: *UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2019, 11:49:48 AM »
From Takashi Ohno's office. Does this mean the house Bill is dead until 2020? I had emailed him requesting that if the bill came through to the PVM committee that it not be given a hearing

Quote
Thank you for your thoughtful response to HB1303. I enjoyed reading your email, and I always learn a lot in this job.

 

HB1303 had to be heard in committee by today to stay alive. It was not given a hearing, and as a result the bill is dead for this session.

 

Mahalo and stay in touch,

 

Takashi Ohno

Hawaii State Representative

Hawaii State Capitol, Room 435
808-586-9415 | repohno@capitol.hawaii.gov

zippz

Re: *UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN
« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2019, 11:53:04 AM »
From Takashi Ohno's office. Does this mean the house Bill is dead until 2020?

Update:

Sorry got the bills mixed up.  HB1531 is dead.  Rep probably confused AWB HB1531 with HB1303.  Ohno sponsored HB1531.  The deadline for 1303 to go to committee is next Friday.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=33158.0
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 12:12:17 PM by zippz »

Lockin

Re: *UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN
« Reply #147 on: March 07, 2019, 01:00:42 AM »
Gun collective

Mr. Hyde

Re: *UPDATED 02/08/19* NOW TWO ASSAULT WEAPONS BANS REMAIN
« Reply #148 on: March 07, 2019, 04:49:30 PM »
Aloha All,
     Sent my testimony to the provided POC's using some of the verbiage suggestions from you all. Thank you again and hopefully we get enough support to stop this attack on our freedoms.