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macsak

southwest airlines update
« on: February 25, 2019, 12:24:38 PM »
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mrgaf

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 12:59:11 PM »
Used them in the past. Don’t care for SWA. will spend a little more $$ and use Hawaiian and keep it local! :shaka:
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changemyoil66

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 01:47:58 PM »
Quote from: mrgaf on February 25, 2019, 12:59:11 PM
Used them in the past. Don’t care for SWA. will spend a little more $$ and use Hawaiian and keep it local! :shaka:

Normally, I would agree, but seems like the direction HA is going is to make more money.  Movies/TV shows used to be free, but paid for only the more recent ones.  I flew HA in December and now all movies and shows cost money.  Blanket charge also.

I've been on China Air and they kick HA's ass when it comes to shows/movies, food, and overall service.

But I will still fly HA because the wife has buku miles so our trips are free.
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hvybarrels

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 05:12:18 PM »
A new fare war will benefit consumers. HA business model is exploitative and relying on their local status to rip people off. It's like Hawaiian kidney stones or Hawaiian rat infestation or Hawaiian tax hike. I guess it's hard to blame them because it seems to work on enough consumers for them to get away with it.
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RSN172

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 05:12:47 PM »
It is hard to beat many of the foreign carriers.  My wife and I flew Singapore Airlines first class on our honeymoon between Tokyo and Taipei.  They gave us 2 shish kabob sticks each which I thought was the dinner.  It was only the appetizer. They then gave us a menu to choose our entree.  Steak, lobster tails or fish.

I feel like HA is ripping off  people flying interisland and to LAS. Their fares to JFK are hard to beat tho.
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macsak

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2019, 05:20:13 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on February 25, 2019, 05:12:18 PM
A new fare war will benefit consumers. HA business model is exploitative and relying on their local status to rip people off. It's like Hawaiian kidney stones or Hawaiian rat infestation or Hawaiian tax hike. I guess it's hard to blame them because it seems to work on enough consumers for them to get away with it.

there is a documented "southwest effect", fares drop 24% on average when SW enters a market
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drck1000

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2019, 07:47:07 PM »
Hopefully there will be healthy competition and leads to better fares across the board. Hopefully none of the local airlines go out or business as a result, but understand that companies have to adjust to survive or they risk getting left behind.

I think I’ll wait for things to settle down and let SW irons out their kinks as well as consumers experiencing their service and their “tricks”. Like how my friends learned some expensive lessons in carriers like AirAsia and Scoot. Those airlines are inexpensive, but gotta be careful of the fine print and all the different fees and charges, especially if you don’t pay up front.
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6716J

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 07:35:49 AM »
I'm hoping that this works out as a good busness model for SWA. I like flying HA, but getting to Vegas is an expensive jaunt and they put a premium going there. I just did a quick comparison on their flights to the Left Coast and LAS is $618 and LAX is $433 round trip 1 adult  3/23 - 3/31. That $200 per ticket goes a long way when I will fly 4 people over.

And Mokulele just got bought by Southern Airways Express to service inter island so we will have to wait and see on them and their pricing structure changes.
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drck1000

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 07:46:10 AM »
While I believe the competition will be good for consumers, I wonder if this will go crazy like back in the early 2000s with the inter-island fare wars.  That was nuts.  Inter-island fares in the $10 range where Hawaiian and Aloha were undercutting each other and another smaller carrier (I forget who) also jumping in.  I remember having a $39 flight from HNL to Kona that was in prime-time slot and moving that to a different day and less busy time slot and I was upgraded to first class and got a partial refund.  I assumed that at least partially led to Aloha's demise.
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Surf

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 10:28:57 PM »
Competition is always good and Hawaiian Airlines really has little rival interisland.  They are gouging the locals with their pricing and HA has a stranglehold interisland.

HA takes care of non-rev before revenue customers.  No Bueno, but there is no alternative and no reason for them to change.   

Top rated US airlines pale in comparison to top-rated foreign airlines.  Top air carriers going west towards Asia completely kick our air carriers ass.

I like to support local companies, but eff the buy local no matter.  If locals are screwing locals, competition is a good reality check.     
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 11:17:09 PM »
Quote from: Surf on February 26, 2019, 10:28:57 PM
Competition is always good and Hawaiian Airlines really has little rival interisland.  They are gouging the locals with their pricing and HA has a stranglehold interisland.

HA takes care of non-rev before revenue customers.  No Bueno, but there is no alternative and no reason for them to change.   

Top rated US airlines pale in comparison to top-rated foreign airlines.  Top air carriers going west towards Asia completely kick our air carriers ass.

I like to support local companies, but eff the buy local no matter.  If locals are screwing locals, competition is a good reality check.     

Based on recent news stories, HA seems to be experiencing a high number of equipment problems interrupting their services.  They have 10 Boeing 787-9 “Dreamliner” aircraft on order for delivery in 2021.  Maybe they knew the existing fleet was becoming too expensive to maintain and operate?

These equipment issues have to be hurting profits, especially when they pay for overnight stays, rebookings on other airlines, etc.
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changemyoil66

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2019, 09:23:32 AM »
KHON stated that a study done to the areas where SW started to fly into, prices dropped 30-50%.

Hope they can get a Vegas route.
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6716J

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2019, 02:53:37 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 01, 2019, 09:23:32 AM
KHON stated that a study done to the areas where SW started to fly into, prices dropped 30-50%.

Hope they can get a Vegas route.
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robtmc

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2019, 08:06:37 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 01, 2019, 09:23:32 AM
Hope they can get a Vegas route.
In all the time I have lived here, yet to understand the appeal of Las Vegas to so many..

When still working at a company in SoCal, the owner's wife just loved to go there and gamble, so all the company management get-togethers were there. Also the obligatory CES show we had to attend.

I really hated the place, with the cigarette smoke and fugly people everywhere.  maybe I was missing something..............

SW knocking down inter-island fares is enough for me.   Unless I have to bail out for Arizona someday, no interest in visiting the mainland again.
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changemyoil66

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2019, 08:29:47 PM »
Quote from: robtmc on March 01, 2019, 08:06:37 PM
In all the time I have lived here, yet to understand the appeal of Las Vegas to so many..

When still working at a company in SoCal, the owner's wife just loved to go there and gamble, so all the company management get-togethers were there. Also the obligatory CES show we had to attend.

I really hated the place, with the cigarette smoke and fugly people everywhere.  maybe I was missing something..............

SW knocking down inter-island fares is enough for me.   Unless I have to bail out for Arizona someday, no interest in visiting the mainland again.
Not as much smoke as b4, even in the rooms.
More hot drunk chicks
Go hang in the lobby at 6am. See all the walk of shame for women and walk of pride for guys.

The gambling xp is way diff being in vegas compared to an indian reservation.

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drck1000

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2019, 09:14:58 AM »
Saw interisland flights being posted.  I saw $49 one way to OGG. 
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RSN172

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2019, 09:30:20 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on March 04, 2019, 09:14:58 AM
Saw interisland flights being posted.  I saw $49 one way to OGG.
OGG has enough flights.  Need $49 to ITO. That is where HA screws the locals. 
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macsak

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2019, 09:36:12 AM »
Quote from: RSN172 on March 04, 2019, 09:30:20 AM
OGG has enough flights.  Need $49 to ITO. That is where HA screws the locals.

https://beatofhawaii.com/southwest-hawaii-deals/
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drck1000

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2019, 09:38:26 AM »
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macsak

Re: southwest airlines update
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2019, 10:27:33 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on March 04, 2019, 09:38:26 AM
Are they missing an “f” in there? 😜

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