if "climate change" is real (Read 10116 times)

ren

if "climate change" is real
« on: March 14, 2019, 02:59:56 PM »
Why is our Mayor and Governor being driven around town in a large SUV (not hybrid) ?
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tillamook

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 03:24:02 PM »
Pelosi's Gulfstream C20B burns 568 gallons an hour.  They only care what the little people need to do to "fix the climate" not the businesses or themselves which are doing +70% of the greenhouse gas emissions

How many private jet flights did our socialist leader Bernie take?

hvybarrels

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2019, 09:32:05 PM »
Climate change is real and progressives are prone to hypocrisy. The fact that they talk the talk while expecting everyone else (except themselves) to walk the walk is pure high grade skeptic fuel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6605391/Glamorous-billionaire-dubbed-hypocrite.html

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 09:15:02 AM »
How come no one is mentioning (media) how Ige signed onto the Paris Accord, even though they admitted it's a fraud.

Leo Decaprio is a huge supporter of this, but yet has a yacht and a chopper that takes him on board.  Nuthin to see here...

Inspector

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 07:45:14 PM »
Stupidity knows no bounds.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

eyeeatingfish

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2019, 08:58:08 PM »
Why is our Mayor and Governor being driven around town in a large SUV (not hybrid) ?

So if they drove around in a hybrid then you would conclude climate change is real?

eyeeatingfish

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2019, 08:59:55 PM »
Climate change is real and progressives are prone to hypocrisy. The fact that they talk the talk while expecting everyone else (except themselves) to walk the walk is pure high grade skeptic fuel.


Extremely good point. We cannot make scientific conclusions on the climate based on whether people are hypocrites or not.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 10:10:54 PM »
So if they drove around in a hybrid then you would conclude climate change is real?

Not the point.

If they drove hybrids, we could at least see they believe the things they are saying. 

Hypocritical behavior is a pretty good sign you're being scammed, or at the very least lied to.

Lead by example.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 12:07:56 AM »
Not the point.

If they drove hybrids, we could at least see they believe the things they are saying. 

Hypocritical behavior is a pretty good sign you're being scammed, or at the very least lied to.

Lead by example.
AOC bashing rideshare for taking jobs from cabs. Her staff spend a lot on uber.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 08:24:07 PM »
Not the point.

If they drove hybrids, we could at least see they believe the things they are saying. 

Hypocritical behavior is a pretty good sign you're being scammed, or at the very least lied to.

Lead by example.

Ideally yes, but realistically no.

I could have an obese doctor tell me I need to lose weight and even though he is being a hypocrite his medical advice is still sound.

Now if indeed they were lying to us we might expect to see hypocritical behavior however hypocritical behavior in and of itself is not conclusive evidence.

And on a side note, why would the governor and the mayor be in on some conspiracy to make us think climate change is a real danger?

ren

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2019, 09:08:20 PM »
So if they drove around in a hybrid then you would conclude climate change is real?
No.
I would take that as an example of LEADERSHIP  :grrr:
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ren

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 09:17:49 PM »
Climate change is real. I never experienced a place on Earth where climate never changed. In fact, I never experienced anything in life that hasn't changed.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 09:55:57 PM »
Ideally yes, but realistically no.

I could have an obese doctor tell me I need to lose weight and even though he is being a hypocrite his medical advice is still sound.

Now if indeed they were lying to us we might expect to see hypocritical behavior however hypocritical behavior in and of itself is not conclusive evidence.

And on a side note, why would the governor and the mayor be in on some conspiracy to make us think climate change is a real danger?

Your doctor isn't in a position to take your wealth by force and give it to a sham "Paris Accord" global wealth redistribution scheme.

You have the CHOICE to take your doctor's advice or not, and there are centuries of science backing up your doctor's advice including actual statistics that prove he's not just making shit up.


I don't do side notes.  Start another topic if you want to go off on another tangent.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2019, 09:26:03 AM »
The UN has agreed that the Paris Acord does/did nothing and a fraud.  Trump was right again.

Now your doctor telling you to lose weight due to potential or current medical problems is based on science.  The healthiness of your doctor has no merit on what you do.  Neither can your doctor force you to lose weight or fine you if you don't.  You just die.  It's 100% up to you.  Compared to the Paris Acord, does anyone know how much money HI is putting into this since Ige signed on?

eyeeatingfish

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2019, 09:23:57 PM »
Your doctor isn't in a position to take your wealth by force and give it to a sham "Paris Accord" global wealth redistribution scheme.

You have the CHOICE to take your doctor's advice or not, and there are centuries of science backing up your doctor's advice including actual statistics that prove he's not just making shit up.


I don't do side notes.  Start another topic if you want to go off on another tangent.

And I would argue there is lots of science to show that climate chance is being influenced by our activity. However I don't imagine we will make much headway in settling that one.

This is on topic because I am agreeing that it is hypocritical of them and disagreeing with the assertion that it is all just a lie, that our governor and mayor are part of some vast conspiracy but just couldn't be bothered to change what car they drive.

eyeeatingfish

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2019, 09:42:44 PM »
The UN has agreed that the Paris Acord does/did nothing and a fraud.  Trump was right again.

Now your doctor telling you to lose weight due to potential or current medical problems is based on science.  The healthiness of your doctor has no merit on what you do.  Neither can your doctor force you to lose weight or fine you if you don't.  You just die.  It's 100% up to you.  Compared to the Paris Acord, does anyone know how much money HI is putting into this since Ige signed on?

Do you know why they are saying the Paris Climate Accords did nothing? Not because climate change was a lie but because the Paris Climate Accord never had any teeth and was voluntary. Pointing out how it has failed is actually just an argument for a stronger agreement with actual teeth.

I did go look for the alleged report in which the UN admitted it was a fraud but I couldn't find the document. I found multiple news sources that mentioned it but none provided a link.  I did find a story of one scientist saying it was a fraud however it was because it didn't do enough to make a difference. Presenting the characterization of the Paris Climate accords as a fraud and therefore man made climate change as a hoax is misrepresenting the facts of why he called it a fraud. Pointing out that it was a fraud is actually an argument for more strict regulation, not justifying a disbelief in climate change.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

Flapp_Jackson

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2019, 10:14:35 PM »
And I would argue there is lots of science to show that climate chance is being influenced by our activity. However I don't imagine we will make much headway in settling that one.

This is on topic because I am agreeing that it is hypocritical of them and disagreeing with the assertion that it is all just a lie, that our governor and mayor are part of some vast conspiracy but just couldn't be bothered to change what car they drive.

Then you're gullible. Just like they like you to be.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2019, 10:28:28 PM »
Do you know why they are saying the Paris Climate Accords did nothing? Not because climate change was a lie but because the Paris Climate Accord never had any teeth and was voluntary. Pointing out how it has failed is actually just an argument for a stronger agreement with actual teeth.

I did go look for the alleged report in which the UN admitted it was a fraud but I couldn't find the document. I found multiple news sources that mentioned it but none provided a link.  I did find a story of one scientist saying it was a fraud however it was because it didn't do enough to make a difference. Presenting the characterization of the Paris Climate accords as a fraud and therefore man made climate change as a hoax is misrepresenting the facts of why he called it a fraud. Pointing out that it was a fraud is actually an argument for more strict regulation, not justifying a disbelief in climate change.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

Bullshit.  Which Liberal news channel fed you that line? Must have been programmed sometime after the meltdown over Trump pulling the US out of it.

Time mark 6:23 - Al Gore admits that if all targets are reached by every country in the Paris Accord (194 if we'd stayed), it still won't fix the Climate Change problem. Gore them obfuscates into a litany of wonderful progress China and others have made.  Progress?  If I'm painting a line around the circumference of the Globe knowing full well I'll never be able to do it, what "progress" am I making if I get 50%, 60% or more painted? It'll never be completed, therefore no amount can be labeled as "progress".  Progress means "closer to your goal".  A goal that can never be reached cannot be measured for progress. It's the antithesis of progress. it's futility.

Al Gore said nothing about the Accord not having teeth or being voluntary as a problem. It's all about "sending a message" (and making the people on the receiving end of the scam wealthier).

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: if "climate change" is real
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2019, 11:26:27 AM »