SB600 & SB1466 Floor votes (Read 7314 times)

punaperson

Re: SB600 & SB1466 Floor votes
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2019, 11:44:10 AM »
Whats even more sad about this is it's more due process violations, which ACLU and other groups should be against even if they don't like guns.
I included a lengthy position paper by the ACLU in my testimony. They oppose such laws for a variety of reasons. One time they are on our side.

under the same logic, a driver's car should be taken away by police if anyone thinks he/she may be a danger to oneself or others....
and driving is not a right
heck, let's expand this unconstitutional law to include knives and any and all "dangerous instruments"

Let's introduce a bill like that next year to show how stupid it is
I had already copied and pasted the bill with the idea of submitting it before next session (maybe next week) to every law maker that voted for it using the various substitutions for "firearms": any motorized vehicle, knives, razors, box cutters, screw drivers, hammers, wrenches (oh, hell, all hand tools), machetes, bats, pipes, bricks, rope, gasoline or any other flammable liquid, all potentially poisonous household chemicals (bleach, drain cleaners, etc.), etc. etc. etc. There'd be a separate bill for each item, just so I could send a LOT of emails to the morons. I think the most attractive one to me was "all household appliances or electric devices that have a cord greater than 8 inches in length", as those could obviously be used to suffocate (aka "hang") oneself, or another person ("Yep, the TV, refrigerator, computer, all the lamps, the phone chargers, etc. all gotta go..."). It gets a little complicated regarding probably the most commonly used weapons to harm other people: fists and feet. Go ahead, confiscate those... I guess with Sharia law they actually do that. If the lawmakers had any integrity, and even the slightest commitment to logical consistency, they would have to submit and pass those bills... ALL of them.  If  a person is deemed "a danger to themselves", certainly all those items would need to be removed... and most of them regarding the person being a danger to others. The idea that the person stops being a credible danger to themselves and/or others once their firearms and ammo have been taken is utterly and totally preposterous. That doesn't worry or concern out legislators in the least. It's what they do. :geekdanc:

Of course we'll see that from our legislators sometime shortly after the proverbial snowflake in hell...

« Last Edit: April 19, 2019, 01:02:17 PM by punaperson »

6716J

Re: SB600 & SB1466 Floor votes
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2019, 12:05:44 PM »
Answer I got from Sen Kidani's office on a different topic but still firearms. And yet they love to make "feel good" decisions about them.

Aloha XXXXXX,

 

First off, I’d like to thank you for your email regarding firearm questions.  Secondly, as we are heading into conference and things moving very quickly, I’d like to apologize for the delay getting back to you with a response.

 

Senator Kidani is not informed at all about gun laws and is unable to answer your questions.  That said, Senator Kidani would like to forward your email questions to someone at HPD for a follow-up response and get back to you.

 

Mahalo,

 

Marie   

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Marie Richardson

Legislative Aide

Office of Senator Michelle Kidani

415 S. Beretania Street, Room 228

Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

groveler

Re: SB600 & SB1466 Floor votes
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2019, 12:50:33 PM »
Make sure you register ALL your guns.
Make sure your neighbors know you
have guns and  where the guns
are secured.
Support your local police, as they are
your friends. Always allow police  to
freely search anything they want to.
Answer all their questions.
The government is your friend.
Thank your Democrat representative
for making you safer.
Praise be to Democrats, our saviors!
Aloha!





zippz

Re: SB600 & SB1466 Floor votes
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2019, 12:54:00 PM »

Senator Kidani is not informed at all about gun laws and is unable to answer your questions.  That said, Senator Kidani would like to forward your email questions to someone at HPD for a follow-up response and get back to you.


Go to her office and invite Kidani and the staff out to the range.