Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why? (Read 2342 times)

ren

Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« on: April 05, 2019, 09:35:59 AM »
https://www.kitv.com/story/40260069/hawaii-legislative-committee-kills-flavored-ecigarette-ban

Hawaii lawmakers killed a proposal that would have banned flavored electronic smoking devices and e-liquids, saying they suspected teenagers would continue to get the products online even if sales were prohibited.

So if they applied that same logic to firearms and CRIMINALS
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macsak

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2019, 09:37:16 AM »
https://www.kitv.com/story/40260069/hawaii-legislative-committee-kills-flavored-ecigarette-ban

Hawaii lawmakers killed a proposal that would have banned flavored electronic smoking devices and e-liquids, saying they suspected teenagers would continue to get the products online even if sales were prohibited.

So if they applied that same logic to firearms and CRIMINALS
the problem is that would require them to be able to think logically...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2019, 09:55:17 AM »
In a word, prohibition. We learned long ago that, if a vice was banned, people would find ways to circumvent the law.

We now allow under 25 yr olds to buy alcohol legally, which is a definite risk to brain development and deterioration if abused.  As an intoxicant, the social and physical risks are worse than nicotine. But beer, wine and liquor are legal.


There is no scientific study linking e-cigs with any health issues. They can be addictive due to the nicotine, but the tar and other carcinogens in tobacco products are not present.

The Surgeon General warning states a concern with potential harm on developing brains -- under 25 yrs old. Also, addiction to nicotine may lead to easier addiction to other drugs.

The biggest risk from e-cigs so far is a malfunction causing it to explode. That's similar to falling asleep with a lit cigarette.

Killing the bill was the right thing to do.  Unless it's a demonstrable health or safety risk to the public -- not just a percentage of one demographic -- banning them for everyone makes no sense.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2019, 10:00:05 AM »
Only reason why this even was suggested is because vaping companies didn't pay the right people yet like how big tobacco does.

drck1000

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2019, 01:30:46 PM »
the problem is that would require them to be able to think logically...
Rationally...

Heavies

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2019, 12:37:31 AM »
They killed that bill because they wanted to increase taxes on it.  That is the reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Never mind it has helped thousands, like me, quit smoking.



Jmoto808

Re: Legislature kills ban on e cigs...why?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2019, 03:00:44 AM »
As a nurse and person, I freaking despise people who smoke any product, but at the same time, unlike Dr. Creagan (D) who is one of the leads on the smoking ban, I do not believe it is governments responsibility to take this fake "altruistic" approach in trying to save everyones lives. Smoking and drinking alcohol alike have long roots in history and both provide zero health benefits, but if we banned every substance with zero to no health benefit, than where would we be left. IMO the answer to cigarettes / e cigs should be stricter enforcement of laws already in place and better use of those taxes to educate youth so that they can grow up and make education decisions. Also, nothing is more selfish than someone smoking and then having toddlers / elderly folks walk by to inhale the 2nd hand fumes.