We all knew this already because of Warren vs. DC.  But I guess good to try again.

I see it all the time where people expect the police to protect them and ignore their own preparedness.  Victims on Stolen Stuff Hawaii on Facebook, my friends and family, employees at work, the media, legislators.  Even when they are victims of crime many blame others for not helping them.

Expectation should be you have to protect yourself until help arrives, if it arrives.  I've been in instances where a person collapses in a large group of people and everyone just stares at each other instead of helping.

It's well establish law that law enforcement has NO "duty to protect" anyone that is not in their custody. They can be called to your home via 911 on a hostage and murder threat call and stand idly by and watch as you and your family are murdered one by one and suffer absolutely no legal consequences... they are not required by law to do anything to help you. However, if a cop is in a courtroom "guarding" an alleged criminal on trial for the rape and murder of a 7-year-old girl and the father of the girl attempts to assault the alleged criminal, that cop IS required by law to protect the rapist murderer from harm by the aggrieved father. Funny how that works, huh? They want you disarmed. They have no requirement to protect you, unless you are in their custody (as a criminal). And they expect people to comply with their laws (disarming people)? Fuck them.

https://www-sun--sentinel-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story,amp.html?usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-sentinel.com%2Flocal%2Fbroward%2Fparkland%2Fflorida-school-shooting%2Ffl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story.html

Cops and schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland shooting, says judge who tossed lawsuit

A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom dismissed a suit filed by 15 students who claimed they were traumatized by the crisis in February. The suit named six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office, as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.

Bloom ruled that the two agencies had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody.

“The claim arises from the actions of [shooter Nikolas] Cruz, a third party, and not a state actor,” she wrote in a ruling Dec. 12. “Thus, the critical question the Court analyzes is whether defendants had a constitutional duty to protect plaintiffs from the actions of Cruz.

“As previously stated, for such a duty to exist on the part of defendants, plaintiffs would have to be considered to be in custody” — for example, as prisoners or patients of a mental hospital, she wrote.

It's well establish law that law enforcement has NO "duty to protect" anyone that is not in their custody. They can be called to your home via 911 on a hostage and murder threat call and stand idly by and watch as you and your family are murdered one by one and suffer absolutely no legal consequences... they are not required by law to do anything to help you. However, if a cop is in a courtroom "guarding" an alleged criminal on trial for the rape and murder of a 7-year-old girl and the father of the girl attempts to assault the alleged criminal, that cop IS required by law to protect the rapist murderer from harm by the aggrieved father. Funny how that works, huh? They want you disarmed. They have no requirement to protect you, unless you are in their custody (as a criminal). And they expect people to comply with their laws (disarming people)? Fuck them.

https://www-sun--sentinel-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story,amp.html?usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-sentinel.com%2Flocal%2Fbroward%2Fparkland%2Fflorida-school-shooting%2Ffl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story.html

Cops and schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland shooting, says judge who tossed lawsuit

A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom dismissed a suit filed by 15 students who claimed they were traumatized by the crisis in February. The suit named six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office, as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.

Bloom ruled that the two agencies had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody.

“The claim arises from the actions of [shooter Nikolas] Cruz, a third party, and not a state actor,” she wrote in a ruling Dec. 12. “Thus, the critical question the Court analyzes is whether defendants had a constitutional duty to protect plaintiffs from the actions of Cruz.

“As previously stated, for such a duty to exist on the part of defendants, plaintiffs would have to be considered to be in custody” — for example, as prisoners or patients of a mental hospital, she wrote.

I wonder how liberals would try to rebut this point? I have never heard someone argue against this justification for an armed public.

They would say that you are required to be a victim.  I've seen people say that if "someone raped and killed me and I didnt shoot back I'd know I'd die with a good conscience."

I wonder if the City will bring up no duty to protect for the other officers in the Cachola lawsuit.  Though they could claim conspiracy and corruption and the case will certainly be settled to avoid bad PR.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/04/26/hawaii-news/estranged-wife-sues-honolulu-police-officer-and-hpd/?HSA=69a3401c12d1a712a86359b0bdcd79b2d25fac53