Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations (Read 859 times)

drck1000

Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« on: July 01, 2019, 09:33:17 AM »
Those of you who have lights with tape switches on your AR's (or have used them before), I would appreciate some examples of setups that you used. 

What light? 
Surefire M300 and M600 series?  Arisaka body?

What mount? 
Looking at Arisaka inline and offset mounts.

Pressure switch?
Any good package deals with lights?
Any lessons learned on what works for you or what didn't?
I recall a few mentions about this, but can't seem to find many.

I have X300 on a couple of guns and a Surefire G2x with Haley Thorntail mount on another.  Looking for something that has the light at in the 1-3 o'clock or 9-11 o'clock zones for use with an LPVO.  There are so many options and these lights seem to be much more pricey than the x300 series. 

changemyoil66

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 09:54:52 AM »
Thanks for posting this, I was looking to add a light on my AR soon also (my bday coming up).  I'm not a fan of the zip ties on the handguard.  I like a more clean look.

Q

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2019, 10:06:06 AM »
Olight PL-Pro

drck1000

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2019, 10:22:44 AM »
Olight PL-Pro
Thanks!  I found a couple of YouTube reviews, which one was by Mr. Gunsngear.  I'll watch when I have chance. 

I already have a few x300s and this seems very similar.  I envisioned putting an x300 on either side of the side of M Lok rail that this will go on.  I am ok with that, but I was looking at the Surefire M series setups.  Those are pricey, so that may end up steering me away.  But I was looking something other than my current setups with the x300 on top of the rail (12 o'clock) position, where I assumed it would conflict (at least some) with the LPVO. 

mangosteenqueen

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2019, 11:41:22 AM »
When it comes to budget: always streamlight protac rail mount. Pressure switch and basic mounting hardware is included.
The streamlight TLR-1 is also a good option for AR but wire pressure switch is a separate item.

For dedicated mounts if you don’t want to use the built in picatinny one: Arisaka or Haley strategic thorntail, proctor.
Inline or offset is based on your preferences. I like my lights sitting at the 1:00-2:00 side unless I have a laser.

Optional dedicated pressure switch mount: cloud defensive.


Other WML options: Surefire m300 or m600, Arisaka, Modlite, Fenix.

mangosteenqueen

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 11:47:54 AM »
You can also pick up surplus Surefire M951 or M952 and get the malkoff conversion or whatever bulb upgrade.
The upside is that you will get 300-something lumens compared to the original 65 lumens, but you will lose the IR illumination function. 

Nostayhome

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 01:03:35 PM »
I have a streamlight protac on a shotgun and like it.

drck1000

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2019, 01:24:21 PM »
When it comes to budget: always streamlight protac rail mount. Pressure switch and basic mounting hardware is included.
The streamlight TLR-1 is also a good option for AR but wire pressure switch is a separate item.

For dedicated mounts if you don’t want to use the built in picatinny one: Arisaka or Haley strategic thorntail, proctor.
Inline or offset is based on your preferences. I like my lights sitting at the 1:00-2:00 side unless I have a laser.

Optional dedicated pressure switch mount: cloud defensive.


Other WML options: Surefire m300 or m600, Arisaka, Modlite, Fenix.
Seems like Arisaka has a good reputation and a wide selection of stuff.  I just wish they has combo packages.  At least I haven't seen them.  I was looking into them for light bodies and mounts not that long ago and it seemed like I had to assemble what I wanted.  Rings, separate from the base plate (connector to Mlok, Keymod, pic, etc), and more.  At that time, I sold my upper with the Haley thorntail mount and light, so I just moved that over the the new upper and stopped looking.  The Cloud Defensive LCS does seem to have good reviews though. 

I have a streamlight protac on a shotgun and like it.
I have a bunch of Protac lights from the 1L-1AA, 2L-X, and HL, but all handheld.  They've all held up well.  Haven't used them mounted on a gun. 

Bota-CS1

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2019, 10:32:32 PM »
Surefire 300 Scout hooked up to an SR-07

Surefire 600DF with just a thumb cap since it’s set up on my left side - easier to activate with my thumb.

Surefire 300 Scout  hooked up to a Surefire dual pressure pad.

Surefire has a good reputation for quality. All of these are mounted on Arisaka mounts that put the ligh as close to the handguard as possible.  I don’t like lights hangin out on the 3 and 6 position where they increase the overall width of the rifle.  I’ve never gotten my lights hung up on anything when I did have them setup that way, but would rather have the peace of mind.

The Arisakas are good quality, it’s just that they don’t have the run time as the Surefire. 

If budget isn’t an obstacle check out the Modlites and the Cloud Defensive OWL.  All good options if you just need visible lights and you’re not running nods.  They’re expensive since they’re new, but they seem to be worth it. 

Try not to get hung up on lumens as candela is more of a factor as to whether you’ll be able to see something distinctly in the dark.
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drck1000

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 02:12:51 PM »
Surefire 300 Scout hooked up to an SR-07

Surefire 600DF with just a thumb cap since it’s set up on my left side - easier to activate with my thumb.

Surefire 300 Scout  hooked up to a Surefire dual pressure pad.

Surefire has a good reputation for quality. All of these are mounted on Arisaka mounts that put the ligh as close to the handguard as possible.  I don’t like lights hangin out on the 3 and 6 position where they increase the overall width of the rifle.  I’ve never gotten my lights hung up on anything when I did have them setup that way, but would rather have the peace of mind.

The Arisakas are good quality, it’s just that they don’t have the run time as the Surefire. 

If budget isn’t an obstacle check out the Modlites and the Cloud Defensive OWL.  All good options if you just need visible lights and you’re not running nods.  They’re expensive since they’re new, but they seem to be worth it. 

Try not to get hung up on lumens as candela is more of a factor as to whether you’ll be able to see something distinctly in the dark.
Thanks!  So far think it's between the 600 DF and Arisaka M600 latest model (higher lux), but still researching.  Gonna wait at least until 4th of July sales.  One thing I did note was that the Arisaka lights listed on SKD seem to be an older version.  The output seems to be much lower, but for same list pricing. 

I have a bunch of Surefire lights as well, but none of the scout lights.  Have a bunch of X300 (older and early ultras).  One is actually going back to Surefire soon. . .  :( 

For the mounts, my initial preference was something in the 11 o'clock position.  One gun has the M lok slots at the 45 degree faces (BCM KMR) and another doesn't (Geissele). 

Looked at the Modlites.  They are pricey, but not too bad.  Surefire and Arisaka are leading for now because of dual fuel.  Saw some videos on the Cloud Defensive OWL as well. 

Noted on the lumens vs candela, and lux as well.  Learned about those with the various lights I already have.  Mr. Gunsngear's videos also show the differences pretty well.  It's amazing at how the lights have changed over the years.  From Maglites, which I thought were awesome when I was a kid and even the 150-180 lumen Surefires. 

drck1000

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2019, 04:55:40 PM »
Mounted the light on my LPVO setup

Surefire M600 DF (it’s bright!)
Surefire DS07 switch assembly
Arisaka offset mount
Cloud Defensive LCS

Mocked up a few different configurations and this is that I settled on, at least for now. Not sure if I like it as the switch is quite a bit taller than I thought. Will have to shoot this setup some and see. Love the light though and will likely stick with that. Just not sure about the switch. Also a little concerned about the weight, but not sure how much lighter other options would be.


changemyoil66

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2019, 09:36:41 AM »
Do you know if there are any issues with the wire melting?  Or is it made from a special rubber that's more heat resistant than normal.

macsak

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2019, 09:46:52 AM »
Do you know if there are any issues with the wire melting?  Or is it made from a special rubber that's more heat resistant than normal.

i think if there were issues, we would have heard about them from others

drck1000

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2019, 10:39:10 AM »
Do you know if there are any issues with the wire melting?  Or is it made from a special rubber that's more heat resistant than normal.
No

i think if there were issues, we would have heard about them from others
I’ve shot guns with the cable near the barrel in AR, Tavor, Scar, etc. Some have been shot to the point where it’s painful without gloves and I haven’t personally seen an issue. Like you mentioned, I’m sure it would have been caught if it did. A quick google search turns up some threads discussing this concern and perpetuation of it via various sources (gun shop and others).

I’ve also seen mounting solutions with zip ties, rubber bands, etc. Haven’t seen or heard of issues with those elements and they aren’t designed or made with that specific application.
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changemyoil66

Re: Light for AR with Pressure Switch Setups & Recommendations
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2019, 02:11:57 PM »
i think if there were issues, we would have heard about them from others

I dont talk to others about their flashlights...fleshlights yes, but flash, no.