Birther part 2? (Read 19775 times)

clshade

Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2012, 11:50:34 PM »
Explain how he went to Pakistan when Pakistan was on the no fly list for US citizens.

??????

Brah, despite many devout wishes to the contrary HE IS THE PRESIDENT. Diplomatic visits are part of his job.

What, did you think he was attending a terrorist camp there or something? What's the big deal with him going to Pakistan? I'm not sure what the suspicion is. Seal Team 6 flew in, too... is there a problem with that? How about our other military and diplomatic personnel in Pakistan?

The trouble with conspiracy theories is that they are very slippery slope. No, our government isn't the Pure Shining White Light Example of Perfection that we were sold in Civics class in school. At some point that myth vanishes along with the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the childhood conviction that your parents know everything. But that doesn't then mean that all the negative allegations must be true.

Many are. Not all. Figuring out which is which takes some clear thinking. And I highly doubt it falls neatly along party lines or ideologies.

What is is that getting a Kenyan born hapa boy into the oval office accomplishes for THEM? (Whoever THEY are in this case.) Why the trouble of a cover up? Why bother with an illegal candidate anyway? What does it gain and for whom?

(edit- For you non-hawaiians out there, "hapa" means half of one thing half another - commonly used to mean racial half and half breed, though "Hapa Rice" is half white and half brown rice, too.)

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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2012, 12:02:39 AM »
He went to Pakistan when he was younger. 
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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2012, 12:08:30 AM »
Ah, thanks.

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Birther part 2?
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2012, 07:11:14 AM »
??????

Brah, despite many devout wishes to the contrary HE IS THE PRESIDENT. Diplomatic visits are part of his job.

What, did you think he was attending a terrorist camp there or something? What's the big deal with him going to Pakistan? I'm not sure what the suspicion is. Seal Team 6 flew in, too... is there a problem with that? How about our other military and diplomatic personnel in Pakistan?

The trouble with conspiracy theories is that they are very slippery slope. No, our government isn't the Pure Shining White Light Example of Perfection that we were sold in Civics class in school. At some point that myth vanishes along with the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and the childhood conviction that your parents know everything. But that doesn't then mean that all the negative allegations must be true.

Many are. Not all. Figuring out which is which takes some clear thinking. And I highly doubt it falls neatly along party lines or ideologies.

What is is that getting a Kenyan born hapa boy into the oval office accomplishes for THEM? (Whoever THEY are in this case.) Why the trouble of a cover up? Why bother with an illegal candidate anyway? What does it gain and for whom?

(edit- For you non-hawaiians out there, "hapa" means half of one thing half another - commonly used to mean racial half and half breed, though "Hapa Rice" is half white and half brown rice, too.)
Hoi, mento, if you would have read my last before that one I said he took that trip back in the 80's, back in the 80's, back in the 80's, back in the 80's. Jesus H. Christ..

I didn't know he was president back then also. I thought it was Reagan, but hey what do I know I'm just a stupid local boy.

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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2012, 07:59:35 AM »
just to clear things up about the Pakistan visit. The U.S. Department of State has said that in 1981 Pakistan was not on the no visit list but rather a caution list that strongly suggests not visiting.

it is strange though that anyone would "vacation" Pakistan during the middle of the Soviet war in Afghanistan and the cold war.

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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2012, 08:08:11 AM »
Inhale my ass......Even George W Bush smokes pot.....Obama still does.  Presidents on Pot what a concept.

Most of our most recent presidents have admitted using marijuana at some point... maybe with the exception of Ronny Ray-gun.

Before marijuana prohibition began in the late 1930’s, many people, including some of our nations leaders grew cannabis for a variety of reasons. It’s fairly well known that cannabis has thousands of industrial uses, and has been grown for thousands of years. While simply growing cannabis is far from proof that someone smoked it, there is still evidence showing many would-be U.S Presidents enjoyed it for recreational and medicinal uses.

George Washington
Washington routinely smoked marijuana to alleviate the pain from his ailing teeth. Washington’s diary recounts his efforts to better cultivate and enhance his crops of marijuana.

Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson grew cannabis on his plantation and smuggled Chinese hemp seeds to America. He also is believed to have given special smoking blends out as personal gifts which is why he makes the list.

James Madison
Madison once remarked that hemp gave him insight to create a new and democratic nation.

James Monroe
Monroe began smoking it as Ambassador to France & continued to the age of 73.

Andrew Jackson
Jackson has been documented to have smoked cannabis and tobacco cigars along with the troops he led.

Zachary Taylor
Like Andrew Jackson, Taylor is said to have smoked with his troops in one or more of the many wars he was in.

Franklin Pierce
Continuing a popular theme of the era, Pierce also smoked with his troops as a general in the Mexican-American War. In a letter to his family, he says cannabis is “about the only good thing” in the war.

Abraham Lincoln
Quotes (real and fake) about Lincoln enjoying hemp are all over the internet. While some debate if Lincoln sparked up, many resources point to yes.

John F. Kennedy
Close acquaintances say Kennedy used cannabis regularly to control his back pain (even during his term) and actually planned on legalizing marijuana during his second term.

Jimmy Carter
Along with his efforts to legalize marijuana, Some say Carter also hosted many marijuana smoke filled events at the White House. This leads most to assume Carter at least tried it at some point in life.

George W. Bush
Bush publicly refused to answer the marijuana question. He was later caught saying he refused to talk about it “because I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried”.

Bill Clinton
Clinton famously stated that he smoked but “didn’t inhale”. He has been known to bend the truth every now and then, so he still makes the list.

Barack Obama
Even though he joked off many American’s wishes to legalize marijuana, Obama has been very open with his own marijuana smoking in the past, once saying “I inhaled frequently. That was the point”.
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clshade

Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2012, 02:21:53 PM »
By that logic, nobody died because of Fast and Furious. Holder investigated and found there was no wrongdoing. End of discussion.

No, its not the end of the discussion. We are talking about 2 vastly different things.

The crux of my point is that the Fed avoids questioning the integrity of State records and decisions because doing so is unconstitutional. The Fed doesn't make a habit of calling the State's liars because their record keeping is different than how the Fed might do it. The Fed sets some standards, certainly, but the States are free to set their systems up any way they see fit within those standards. Treading on the hallowed ground of State rights and powers not expressly given to the Federal Government being delegated to the individual States is a very serious business. If Hawaii says the birth certificate is real.... end of story as far as a federal investigation is concerned.

Holder was a Fed "investigating" a federal agency under his own jurisdiction. That's different. He was covering his own ass and it is painfully obvious. That happens all the time in D.C. as a matter of course.

Jeez, you know the bureaucrats in this state! Do you really think if there was some discrepancy in the records of Obama's birth certificate that this State full of rule-mongering bureaucrats would try to cover it up? Why would they? Because he went to Punahou? Its not like Berry called Hawaii and said "Psssst! Say I was born there!"  and breaking the law in that fashion would NOT be in Hawaii's best interests anyway.

There is simply no reason I can think of that hiding foreign birth would benefit any of the parties that would have to do it. Nor can I see why the Democratic Party would go to such lengths to do so when Hillary was such a strong candidate already. What makes Obama such a needed asset to the left that they commit felony perjury to cover up his supposed foreign birth?

DonRow

Birther part 2?
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clshade

Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »
Ha! :)

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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2012, 09:49:46 PM »
"Bennett [Arizona Secretary of State] has said that he might keep Obama’s name off of the state’s presidential ballot if he doesn’t receive the confirmation.  Eight weeks ago, the secretary of state asked Hawaii officials merely for an email confirming the Department of Health has a certified copy of the birth certificate, but Hawaii officials have not complied."

Why is it so difficult to get the tiniest scrap of information about Obama's birth certificate?  Why won't someone from our beloved Department of Health write an email to the Arizona Secretary of State saying, "Yup, I just went and checked, we've got the original right here.  Go ahead and put him on the ballot."?

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Obama Born in KENYA?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2014, 09:52:23 PM »
http://mrconservative.com/2014/09/49953-home-video-surfaces-of-barack-obamas-birth-in-kenya/

1. The walls of the Delivery Room at Kapiolani Hospital back then were Yellow 4" Square Tiles.
2. There were no Black Doctors back then
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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2014, 10:37:15 PM »
Looks like a hoax.  That doesn't look like a newborn baby.
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Re: Birther part 2?
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2014, 11:23:21 PM »
looked kinda big, maybe an Alien?
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