Cannabis decriminalization (Read 10723 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2019, 09:25:05 PM »
American kids will be Fat. Stoned. Texting. Disarmed. Transgendered and whatever hashtag that trends next.

Too late  :rofl:

« Last Edit: July 17, 2019, 01:31:48 PM by hvybarrels »
The F in Communism stands for Food

London808

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2019, 07:24:05 PM »
Its all about People control. 
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2019, 08:28:55 PM »
I don't understand why it is so difficult to have weed legalized. Blue states and red states alike. You would expect, as conservatives, republicans to be all for legalization, especially federally. One of those contradictions among republicans.

No, I don't say this because I want to smoke weed. I hate the smell.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2019, 10:08:06 PM »
I don't understand why it is so difficult to have weed legalized. Blue states and red states alike. You would expect, as conservatives, republicans to be all for legalization, especially federally. One of those contradictions among republicans.

No, I don't say this because I want to smoke weed. I hate the smell.

You really love to paint all conservatives with the same broad brush when it suits you.

Your argument is more inline with Libertarian views, not Conservatives.

So there's that.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2019, 11:29:04 AM »
You really love to paint all conservatives with the same broad brush when it suits you.

Your argument is more inline with Libertarian views, not Conservatives.

So there's that.

Federal weed legalization fits perfectly within the conservative ideology as well as libertarian ideology. The issue is we have social conservatives whose views conflict with conservative ideas about government and create the aforementioned contradiction. No, I don't expect that all conservatives are going to be the same on all issues but my point that you missed is that this is among a number of contradictions within the republican party.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2019, 11:43:13 AM »
Federal weed legalization fits perfectly within the conservative ideology as well as libertarian ideology. The issue is we have social conservatives whose views conflict with conservative ideas about government and create the aforementioned contradiction. No, I don't expect that all conservatives are going to be the same on all issues but my point that you missed is that this is among a number of contradictions within the republican party.

Give examples of the "contradictions" if you can.  Just saying it is so isn't evidence.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

mrgaf

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2019, 06:35:44 PM »
Well don’t really give a shit either way. Too old to smoke anymore too old to care but tax the living shit out of it! :geekdanc:
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jaynick

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2019, 11:04:07 AM »
I wonder whatever happened to the guys who had their firearms returned by hpd after they were initially turned in for having a medical mj card.
Id imagine that if a federal agency followed up and wrote them a letter or showed up to confiscate the guns we would have heard about it.

https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2017/12/07/hpd-confirms-error-over-controversial-cannabis-gun.html

ren

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2019, 11:59:49 AM »
"I don't need this shit - I am reality"

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2019, 09:59:31 PM »
Give examples of the "contradictions" if you can.  Just saying it is so isn't evidence.

Republicans have taken a number of stances which go against the general nature of conservatism which includes less spending, smaller government, and states rights.
Republicans resisted gay marriage
Bush was not fiscally conservative, they passed the bailouts after the 2008 stock market crash
Republicans take harder stances on drugs at a federal level
Time and time again republicans have supported various subsidies. The farm bills come to mind but there are others.

There are a few examples off the top of my head for you.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2019, 10:00:11 PM »
Well don’t really give a shit either way. Too old to smoke anymore too old to care but tax the living shit out of it! :geekdanc:

Can always try edibles.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2019, 10:09:39 PM »
Republicans have taken a number of stances which go against the general nature of conservatism which includes less spending, smaller government, and states rights.
Republicans resisted gay marriage
Bush was not fiscally conservative, they passed the bailouts after the 2008 stock market crash
Republicans take harder stances on drugs at a federal level
Time and time again republicans have supported various subsidies. The farm bills come to mind but there are others.

There are a few examples off the top of my head for you.

You're kind of simpleminded.  You think SOME Republicans taking a given stance on a given instance is an example of all Republicans.

Obama opposed Gay Marriage.
Hillary opposed Gay Marriage.
Kamala Harris made a name for herself throwing hundreds in prison for low-level drug charges.

Democrats are contradictory to their own stances, I guess.

You seem to believe labels are somehow carved in stone, and if you don't adhere to that label's definition of an ideology or issue position, you're not being a true [ fill in the label ] .

Maybe labels are bad.  But it's how the press and the Left tend to pigeonhole people so they can support or attack them.  Treating everyone as individuals with a cross-section of ideological beliefs doesn't make your life as simple as you want, does it?

You seem to toss around labels pretty often when trying to push a narrative against Conservatives, Republicans and the Right.  I wonder why that is?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2019, 09:28:19 PM »
You're kind of simpleminded.  You think SOME Republicans taking a given stance on a given instance is an example of all Republicans.

Obama opposed Gay Marriage.
Hillary opposed Gay Marriage.
Kamala Harris made a name for herself throwing hundreds in prison for low-level drug charges.

Democrats are contradictory to their own stances, I guess.

You seem to believe labels are somehow carved in stone, and if you don't adhere to that label's definition of an ideology or issue position, you're not being a true [ fill in the label ] .

Maybe labels are bad.  But it's how the press and the Left tend to pigeonhole people so they can support or attack them.  Treating everyone as individuals with a cross-section of ideological beliefs doesn't make your life as simple as you want, does it?

You seem to toss around labels pretty often when trying to push a narrative against Conservatives, Republicans and the Right.  I wonder why that is?

And you revert to whataboutism because you can't defend against the points I made. And it is not just some republicans, you really think marijuana is still federally illegal because a couple of republicans are holding out? Just a couple of republicans resisted gay marriage?

I made my point well enough but you want to quibble because that's what you do and everyone here knows it. I am not going to follow you down this rabbit hole.  :closed: :stopjack:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2019, 11:20:47 PM »
And you revert to whataboutism because you can't defend against the points I made. And it is not just some republicans, you really think marijuana is still federally illegal because a couple of republicans are holding out? Just a couple of republicans resisted gay marriage?

I made my point well enough but you want to quibble because that's what you do and everyone here knows it. I am not going to follow you down this rabbit hole.  :closed: :stopjack:

You started digging that hole, and now that you can't win the fight, you declare the rabbit hole off limits?

Typical troll.  It's no fun when the victim makes you look bad.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2019, 07:52:08 PM »
Cannabis is also good for relieving tension. Just saying
The F in Communism stands for Food

eyeeatingfish

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2019, 09:38:43 PM »
It's no fun when the victim makes you look bad.

I am sorry, did I make you look bad? (I'm not actually sorry)

changemyoil66

Re: Cannabis decriminalization
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2019, 01:21:33 PM »
I predict that pakalolo will be legal in 5 years.  Because Monsato is getting into it.  Get in now while cheap and they have some control in DC.