No king or queen with any sense would tolerate an armed populace.

If you read my previous posts, many Hawaiian historical and legal scholars are currently analyzing this issue of whether a monarchy or republic would be restored.  I personally agree a democratically elected republic would likely be more practical and expedient political way moving forward.

Your opinion, not the opinion of the majority of Hawaiians.

I don't care about the opinions of racist "Hawaiians".
The people that claim to practice "Hawaiian" cultural
practices are like Moslems to me.
Cultists with only the force of arms to make their case.
I encourage you to take up the fight.
You are really a dominate cult, right?
If so kick me off my land!
See where that will get you.
Aloha.

If you support amnesty for dreamers, then you have no grounds for wanting to kick out US citizens if/when Hawaii becomes sovereign.

Those of us in Hawaii now have in no way assisted in the overthrow of the monarchy, just as Dreamers didn't willingly break US immigration law.

Lots of parallels between these two groups.

Such an emotionally charged response laced with veiled threats.  One would think it was coming from a liberal fanatic.

Calling all Hawaiians as racists and cultists is very extreme, don't you think?

Since you definitely are mentally distressed and need to release your stress, I suggest you and all others that believe as you do to go to Mauna Kea with a bullhorn and share your disdain for Hawaiians exercising free speech as well as how you hate anything Hawaiian.

IMUA!

Who said anything about kicking out US citizens?   

Talk about (thinly veiled) threats! What a hypocrite!

You're a blatant liar when you claim that the criminals breaking the law by blocking a public roadway are (merely) "Hawaiians exercising free speech". You think they'd return the favor of allowing us to exercise free speech and remain for weeks blocking their driveways and/or the roads to their homes? Sure they would. Because they are so enamored of the right to free speech and obeying the law. No one has a "right" to violate the rights of another person (which are de facto forfeited if that person engages in assault, etc.), certainly not without having to face the consequences of any and all laws they are breaking in doing so... EXCEPT, apparently in this case, where the racists are allowed to break the law with impunity by Democrat cowards cowering behind their fear of "offending" the racist criminals.

So, tell us, why do you suggest people opposed to the criminal lawbreakers go to the site of the criminal actiivity with a bullhorn and state our views about their breaking the law? What good would that do? What do you imagine would happen... I mean, given the solemn sacred location and sworn allegiance to "kapu aloha" and all?

Citizenship would initially be offered to any living descendant of a Hawaiian national who can trace their lineage prior to the illegal annexation by the US in 1898.  All other residents who resided in Hawaii after 1898 would be considered unofficial resident aliens that could elect to become permanent resident aliens once such process is enacted by the new body politic.


This is actually where many Hawaiian historical and legal scholars are still discussing.  Some believe the monarchy needs to be restored, while others believe it should be replaced by a republic.


With deoccupation, all federal organizations would cease its operations in the islands and return to the US.  As for possible invasion from China; China has not invaded any country for over the last 100 years.  If there is any country that a nation should fear being invaded from, is the US, who has invaded more sovereign nations in the last 30 years than Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea COMBINED!


One needs to double check the last legal constitution Hawaii had prior to the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US in 1898 to see if there were such provisions.


Politically it would be hard for the any US administration to administer the correct remedy to its Constitutionally illegal occupation of Hawaii, but as long as both aboriginal and non-aboriginal Hawaiian nationals galvanize, as is currently being done in the protests against TMT on Mauna Kea, yes there will always be hope.

Exercising free speech is a sacred right that everyone is entitled to do.

Are you afraid to say all the things you shared in this thread to the faces of the Hawaiian people you presumed to be in violation of the law?  If not, take everyone that believes as you do on this forum and exercise your 1st Amendment Right on the summit of Mauna Kea.

But let me give you this question to really ponder over. Say de-occupation did happen and it was managed relatively well so there was no disastrous economic impact or civil war or exodus. Would anything really change? Might we still have apathetic voters who elect democrats

The Democratic Party would not exist in the restored Hawaiian nation.  Thank God!  It would be safe to presume new political parties would begin given the new political landscape and not just TWO PARTIES!  That's the best part.


have the same issues with corruption,

There will be corruption, but much of the corruption would at least be swept away in the first few decades given the new playing field.


have the same high cost of living,

The cost of living on an island nation will always be relatively expensive due to transportation costs, but will go down with the elimination of the Jones Act and the fact Hawaii will be a neutral free-trade zone, as it was prior to the illegal annexation by the US.


the same drug and crime problems,

You would know best, DRUGS are everywhere and crime will always be.  However, the new body politic will have an opportunity to squash any criminal newcomers.


the same issues with a TMT, etc?

The culture-centered protestors of TMT would still be against, but I suspect the majority of Hawaiians, like myself, would be willing to compromise for its completion.


Would we still not be the same exact Hawaii just with a different flag? Should we still separate from the USA just on the principle of it?

Although daily life would remain the same, this is a good thing as disruption too fast, too soon is not good for anyone.  However, with the US Government out of the way, real entrepreneurial opportunity for all residents and peace-of-mind from the risk of being attacked by any of America's enemies would both increase.

The liar and dissembler refuses to answer the questions. Again.

So you believe.


Why would anyone be "afraid" to exercise their right to free speech in front of the criminal racists who have sworn to "kapu aloha" on their superstitious "sacred" "cultural practice" location? Oh, I get it...you mean because you, and everyone else, knows full well that you and they are blatant hypocrites who in the blink of an eye will turn violent when they hear something they don't like from someone exercising their free speech right.

Making comments that the people who are opposed to TMT are violent is very judgmental and wrong.


How would we get to the "summit of Mauna Kea" asshole? Your criminal racist buddies are blocking the public road. Or don't you know what's going on there? Dumbass.

Is this the 2A Hawaii forum or the Democratic National Convention?  Name calling?  Really immature.  So sad...