The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus... (Read 11267 times)

punaperson

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2019, 10:26:25 AM »
Kuleana,
Your reasoning is faulty.
Understatement of the Year.

changemyoil66

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2019, 10:31:05 AM »
This armed group also have among them doctors, dentists and many military trained medics and EMTs. 


See how doctors and dentist was listed separately.  Heads.

I think we're already at a civil war.  Not like the one for slavery, but to some extent.

1 side against another.  Often 1 side commits violent acts.  Sometimes a full blown battle charge is initiated.  Police stand by and do nothing.  Like how police/sheriff did nothing when it was north vs. south.

1 side also attacks the other more via media control and social media control.

Are we seeing lots of deaths like the 1st civil war, no.  But injuries and attacks both verbal and non-verbal.  Different times, different technologies.  Well maybe war is a strong word.  So civil conflict would be more accurate.

Kuleana

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2019, 01:20:00 PM »
Kuleana,
The entire group is not going to all sleep at the same time and will have guards posted.  In an anarchy situation, the group could take over a secure facility like Halawa or the Fed Detention Center for their base or bases.  These locations already have medical facilities.  Added benefit is releasing the crimminals on the general populace.  This armed group also have among them doctors, dentists and many military trained medics and EMTs.  Disease, lack of medical supplies etc would also apply to the gen populace as well.  We could also just take the supplies out there from the unarmed populace as well.  Your reasoning is faulty.

Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2019, 01:26:34 PM »
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

"Organized crime elements" in Hawaii?

Do they live in silos?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2019, 01:30:49 PM »

1) See how doctors and dentist was listed separately.  Heads.

2) Are we seeing lots of deaths like the 1st civil war, no.  But injuries and attacks both verbal and non-verbal.  Different times, different technologies.  Well maybe war is a strong word.  So civil conflict would be more accurate.
1)  :rofl:

2) Then the DSA folks are gonna be truly f-ed.  ;D

changemyoil66

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2019, 01:34:15 PM »
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

Reminds me of the show Revolution.  The ending was very disappointing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2019, 01:39:16 PM »
Did anyone even watch the video?

It outlines a "Civil COLD War", which is mostly propaganda and insurgency.  Attacks like the firebomber at the immigration detention center and the El Paso shooting are examples of lone wolf radicals committing insurgency.

There's not going to be a skirmish line with Leftists lining up on one side and Conservatives on the other.  It'll be like Ireland, with factions of violent fighters going after terroristic and tactical targets.

Our nation is too large, too well armed, and too "civilized" to tear itself apart over ideologies.  Only an actual tyrannical government or total economic collapse could throw us into that dark of a scenario.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2019, 01:41:26 PM »
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

they certainly have me outgunned, and have more ammo and reloading components...

changemyoil66

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2019, 01:41:38 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2019, 01:42:20 PM »
they certainly have me outgunned, and have more ammo and reloading components...

And we still need a doctor for medical aid.

macsak

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2019, 01:59:30 PM »
And we still need a doctor for medical aid.

a REAL doctor

RSN172

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2019, 02:07:54 PM »
What video?


Actually I did.  As far as armed groups go, some militant groups on the mainland have 20,000 members.  A few members from various groups came and joined forces and worked together to defend the Bundy Ranch from the feds who wisely backed off.  It is not likely that various armed groups will be fighting each other here.
Happily living in Puna

GlockNewb

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2019, 02:09:02 PM »
Did anyone even watch the video?

It outlines a "Civil COLD War"

I hope people did. Tim goes into great detail about the conflict and how we may already be in the state of “war”, it’s just in a form we’ve never seen before.

He describes it as insurgencies. No real pitched battles, but lower- and smaller-scale violence. The extreme left carries out lots of little ‘attacks’ to hurt and/or defame people, the extreme right carries out small but deadly attacks. The extreme left isn’t condemned by mainstream media, in effect de facto support, while the extreme right gets nonstop media coverage and association with more conservative figures.

Best analogy is that Antifa vs. Proud Boys scuffle video. Antifa comes clad in black and swinging. One Proud Boy knocks one of them out with a single right hook, who’ll the media claim is more violent?
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

GlockNewb

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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2019, 02:12:36 PM »

1 side against another.  Often 1 side commits violent acts.  Sometimes a full blown battle charge is initiated.  Police stand by and do nothing.  Like how police/sheriff did nothing when it was north vs. south.
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If you haven’t already, check out Andy Ngo’s coverage regarding Portland and Antifa. Andy was filming coverage in the streets when he was attacked by several black-clad individuals. He made no attempt to retaliate, he just walked out from the fray and it took police officers within line of sight several minutes before making contact. Portland’s mayor is backing Antifa too.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

GlockNewb

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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2019, 02:15:02 PM »


This is only going in one direction...especially when big tech does nothing...
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

changemyoil66

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2019, 02:19:56 PM »
What video?


Actually I did.  As far as armed groups go, some militant groups on the mainland have 20,000 members.  A few members from various groups came and joined forces and worked together to defend the Bundy Ranch from the feds who wisely backed off.  It is not likely that various armed groups will be fighting each other here.

Don't forget that Bundy was found not guilt of ALL charges brought against him.  He was "exonerated" one could say.

RSN172

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2019, 02:21:48 PM »
And we still need a doctor for medical aid.

Just takeover Queens MC.  Remember we are talking about a doomsday scenario.  Any doctor or medical professional that refuses will be summarily dismissed.  Of course while all of this is taking place on Oahu and other populated places, I will be minding my own business in a remote area of Puna and I guess I will have to eat a lot of pork, chicken, taro and potatoes which is what is plentiful around me.
Happily living in Puna

mrgaf

Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2019, 03:05:46 PM »
Just takeover Queens MC.  Remember we are talking about a doomsday scenario.  Any doctor or medical professional that refuses will be summarily dismissed.  Of course while all of this is taking place on Oahu and other populated places, I will be minding my own business in a remote area of Puna and I guess I will have to eat a lot of pork, chicken, taro and potatoes which is what is plentiful around me.

Don’t forget to stock up on beer..... :crazy: :geekdanc:
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