Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?! (Read 4944 times)

eyeeatingfish

Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« on: August 22, 2019, 09:16:59 PM »
I was surprised where stood on a lot of the issues they covered. He isn't going to make any friends here with his gun views but most of the interview was on other topics and he was quite articulate and reasonable. Downright agreed with him on more than I would have thought.


eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2019, 10:48:33 PM »
Some excerpts from him:

“But liberals have become utterly, pathetically illiberal. And it’s a massive problem."
“What’s the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don’t allow anyone else to have a different view?
"Populism is rising because liberals have become unbearable."
“The snowflake culture that we now operate in, the victimhood culture…"

ren

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 10:53:41 PM »
hmm. that was a refreshing part of Piers Morgan. Never dreamed he would see things as in that interview
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 02:08:05 PM »
He is taking notes from Trumps transition from a wealthy East Coat liberal and friend of the Clintons to whatever he is pretending to be now in order to exploit populist rage for his own benefit. Conservative is back in fashion now that the Control Left has descended into identity politics hell.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 05:42:05 PM »
hmm. that was a refreshing part of Piers Morgan. Never dreamed he would see things as in that interview

One of the things I particularly respected was his position on Brexit. Even though he thought Britain should stay in the EU he stated that the will of the people through the democratic process must be respected as even though he thought his view was the smarter one, he doesn't get to impose his will on everyone else.

robtmc

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2019, 09:08:10 AM »
hmm. that was a refreshing part of Piers Morgan. Never dreamed he would see things as in that interview
He is a media creature, you know, a whore.  Give him a change of breeze and he will do a 180°.

changemyoil66

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2019, 09:27:29 AM »
I sort of give him a break on his views of the 2a.  He grew up in  a country that has a different value on guns.  Also he has money so he isn't in the poor areas or "no-go" zones. So he's relatively safe.

There are others from the UK that take advantage of their new freedoms and are very pro 2a.  And they're commoners, not rich like Morgan.

On a side note, Sweeden who has strict gun laws has had 120 bombing this year. 

punaperson

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2019, 09:37:50 AM »
I sort of give him a break on his views of the 2a.  He grew up in  a country that has a different value on guns.  Also he has money so he isn't in the poor areas or "no-go" zones. So he's relatively safe.
That's exactly why he shouldn't be given a "break". He presents the same lying statistics and argues that no one should have guns... the very people that need them the most are the people unlike him who live in more dangerous circumstances. He wants to deny those people the right to meaningful self-defense, something that he himself, because of his white privilege, will likely never have to exercise. He's a bloviating gas bag.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2019, 09:39:28 PM »
On a side note, Sweeden who has strict gun laws has had 120 bombing this year.

WTH? I haven't heard any of that in the news!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 09:43:31 PM »
WTH? I haven't heard any of that in the news!

Why would you?  Do you think our press reports news or something?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2019, 09:43:36 PM »
On a side note, Sweeden who has strict gun laws has had 120 bombing this year.

That's it?

There are other countries in the PACOM AOR with more in a month
« Last Edit: August 26, 2019, 09:49:48 PM by ren »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 09:46:40 PM »
That's exactly why he shouldn't be given a "break". He presents the same lying statistics and argues that no one should have guns... the very people that need them the most are the people unlike him who live in more dangerous circumstances. He wants to deny those people the right to meaningful self-defense, something that he himself, because of his white privilege, will likely never have to exercise. He's a bloviating gas bag.

I think his point is that we need to understand where he is coming from. We think his arguments are all wrong but he thinks our arguments are all wrong. I don't think its the case that he knows his position to be false and maintains it anyway. If we just dismiss someone for being wrong then we aren't really giving them a chance to change and instead just alienating them.

Case in point, North Koreans are taught that North Korea was the first country to the moon and they have a museum with a fake space shuttle. When one of them escapes they are confronted with a world of information that is different than what they grew up "knowing" to be true. You don't treat someone like that as stupid or dishonest because they don't immediately believe you or change their mind on a dime.

You don't change people's minds by attacking them and berating them.

changemyoil66

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 12:26:50 PM »
WTH? I haven't heard any of that in the news!

You follow the wrong news man.  Been telling you this for a while now.  Bumbai you goin learn.

changemyoil66

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 12:27:28 PM »
I think his point is that we need to understand where he is coming from. We think his arguments are all wrong but he thinks our arguments are all wrong. I don't think its the case that he knows his position to be false and maintains it anyway. If we just dismiss someone for being wrong then we aren't really giving them a chance to change and instead just alienating them.

Case in point, North Koreans are taught that North Korea was the first country to the moon and they have a museum with a fake space shuttle. When one of them escapes they are confronted with a world of information that is different than what they grew up "knowing" to be true. You don't treat someone like that as stupid or dishonest because they don't immediately believe you or change their mind on a dime.

You don't change people's minds by attacking them and berating them.

To be fair, we never landed on the moon either...

changemyoil66

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 12:29:38 PM »
That's it?

There are other countries in the PACOM AOR with more in a month

This is a "white country", the media doesn't care about brown countries.  Like all the Christians murdered in Africa, Taliban in Philipines, and even our own Chiraq.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2019, 04:22:08 PM »
You follow the wrong news man.  Been telling you this for a while now.  Bumbai you goin learn.

I get my regular news from a libertarian leaning radio show. Supplemented with podcasts from both sides of the aisle.

I was looking into it, I guess it doesn't make a lot of news because the death toll is surprisingly low? I have to admit though that I could stand to increase my consumption of international news.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2019, 04:23:39 PM »
To be fair, we never landed on the moon either...

What? Where have I been my whole life? Is Elvis not really dead?

ren

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2019, 05:07:00 PM »
What? Where have I been my whole life? Is Elvis not really dead?

Nope. He's in the club with Tupac.

They ghost wrote for Lil Nas X & Billy Ray

Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: Liberal-hating, Trump-supporting, Piers Morgan?!
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2019, 08:27:33 PM »
Tpac is dead, u crazy tinfoil theorist.

Elvis is the grounds keeper at graceland

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