I'm shopping around for an ITAR item online.  I've ordered many and have received many.  Tonight, I try to order a scope that is an ITAR item and Midway won't ship to Hawaii, citing International.  Then another site was classifying my zip code as "International". OCCUPIED 

If it's worth your time, call them to place the order. If not, shop elsewhere.

Careful with scopes bro.  Alphabet boys cracked down on some scope app.  They want the usernames of the app because they also probably have the scope.

Scope apps? Don’t need no stinkin’ scope app.

Nah. But seriously, I don’t know anything about those.

Nor do you own any firearms, ammo, reloading equipment, or bodyarmor.

I gave them all to Mac 

I gave them all to Mac 

When I first moved here in 2008 the moving company told me it is considered an “International” move as compared to a domestic move because my container moved out of US control into international water. Then once when speaking to a Hawaiian Airlines employee they told me the flight from the mainland to Hawaii is an “International” flight because the flights enter international airspace. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they are right. Just repeating what was told to me. Obviously, some people either are mis informed or mis interpreted certain facts.

With that in mind, I can see someone who is terrified of violating ITAR restrictions due to how arbitrary and broad they are might just err on the side of not making the sale. As an example, some websites won’t sell us 30 round mags for AR’s while others will sell us as many as we can afford. All due to the way each company interprets our restrictions.

I don’t know the ITAR restriction laws well enough to say either way. But my guess is that there is some inexperienced person making the decision not to ship here due to not having a complete understanding of the laws.

I went to college with guys from Idaho that thought we grew up living in grass shacks. No kidding.

And I got my scope delivered over the weekend. 

I believe it.

Congrats on the scope. We need to discuss how it happened over dinner and beer before I leave. 

1) ITAR however would not affect sales to Hawaii as the restriction is for export outside of the U.S.A.  The problem is website shopping carts are typically programmed for domestic and international shipping rather than distinguishing between export or domestic sales.

2) GENERALLY, speaking directly to a person will resolve this issue but once in a while someone ignorant is on the other end of the line.  I experienced this for motorcycle parts of all things so yes, it can get stupid.

3) I see it as an opportunity for other businesses to win my money if the one I initially made my order with can't figure out how to keep my business.