I've seen those shows where people record their encounters with the police and you almost always see the police tell who ever is filming to turn off the camera...



Anyone know if we HAVE to oblige?

No wonder I have no friends outside work...

Anyone know if we HAVE to oblige?

No you don't. The only reason they say that is cause they don't want it used against them. Now if it was natzi Germany then you have a problem. Wait, we're almost there.

I've seen those shows where people record their encounters with the police and you almost always see the police tell who ever is filming to turn off the camera...



Anyone know if we HAVE to oblige?

Absolutely NOT!  Keep recording.   Personally, I have had Honolulu Police officers attempt to take my camera from me; this exact reason is why my data is streamed to the cloud with the phone screen locked.  I'm also looking at something my buddy did with his android tasks (where you can make the phone do a few things automatically)  his basically starts his recording app, texts two friends and locks the phone. 

There are numerous cases, Federal DOJ letters, and 1st amendment rights at stake with communist rules like "you can't record the police."   Now, to be clear, this doesn't mean you can interfere with the police and their duties.  You can be a reasonable distance away i.e. not right up next to the guy while he is conducting a lawful traffic stop.  So if you are like on the sidewalk recording, and then they come up to you -- record away.  If you have any problems, please let us know.

No you don't. The only reason they say that is cause they don't want it used against them. Now if it was natzi Germany then you have a problem. Wait, we're almost there.

Absolutely NOT!  Keep recording.   Personally, I have had Honolulu Police officers attempt to take my camera from me; this exact reason is why my data is streamed to the cloud with the phone screen locked.  I'm also looking at something my buddy did with his android tasks (where you can make the phone do a few things automatically)  his basically starts his recording app, texts two friends and locks the phone. 

There are numerous cases, Federal DOJ letters, and 1st amendment rights at stake with communist rules like "you can't record the police."   Now, to be clear, this doesn't mean you can interfere with the police and their duties.  You can be a reasonable distance away i.e. not right up next to the guy while he is conducting a lawful traffic stop.  So if you are like on the sidewalk recording, and then they come up to you -- record away.  If you have any problems, please let us know.

Thank you

I think the more important question is do we have to let them know they are being recorded?

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Was wondering the same.

I think the more important question is do we have to let them know they are being recorded?

Hawaii has one party consent. The caveat is you can't install something, and there can't be a reasonable expectation of privacy.  In public, there are no reasonable expectations, except for things like bathrooms, escalators, locker areas etc.  You can't go videoing upskirts, but you can record on the beach.

Absolutely NOT!  Keep recording.   Personally, I have had Honolulu Police officers attempt to take my camera from me; this exact reason is why my data is streamed to the cloud with the phone screen locked.  I'm also looking at something my buddy did with his android tasks (where you can make the phone do a few things automatically)  his basically starts his recording app, texts two friends and locks the phone. 

There are numerous cases, Federal DOJ letters, and 1st amendment rights at stake with communist rules like "you can't record the police."   Now, to be clear, this doesn't mean you can interfere with the police and their duties.  You can be a reasonable distance away i.e. not right up next to the guy while he is conducting a lawful traffic stop.  So if you are like on the sidewalk recording, and then they come up to you -- record away.  If you have any problems, please let us know.

Thanks for the info funtimes. 

Hawaii has one party consent. The caveat is you can't install something, and there can't be a reasonable expectation of privacy.  In public, there are no reasonable expectations, except for things like bathrooms, escalators, locker areas etc.  You can't go videoing upskirts, but you can record on the beach.

I don't think that reasonable expectation of privacy applies if you're recording someone's interaction _with you_.  If someone is talking to me, there's obviously no expectation that their comments to me will be kept private from me.  I think what FT is talking about with a reasonable expectation of privacy is filming something you're not a party to, like if you hear a police beatdown going on in the neighbor's yard and you go out on your porch with a video camera to record it.  That's good to go, because the police have no expectation of privacy there.