Hello everyone, new member here.

I have a question regarding the medical clearance. Some quick background, grew up in Hawaii as a military dependent, now I am a DOD civilian and have Kaiser as my health insurance since 2017.

I have not been to the doctor since I was 18 and had to get a physical for UH.

I have not seen a doctor, and have no idea where I am assigned, I have insurance in case of emergency.

So here is the dilemma, what do I put on the medical clearance waiver? Kaiser? They have zero records about me, except that I exist in their system. The bulk of my health records are from DoD from when I was a kid.

Also, I dont have any psychiatry, behavior health, counseling, substance abuse, or any other disqualifying factors in my record or otherwise.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

If you are a current member of Kaiser, sign the Kaiser records release authorization form.

They only care about your current provider -- most likely because they can't get former providers to cough up records on applicants who are no longer patients/members.

This is my opinion.

Step one, dump Kaiser and get HMSA.  It costs more, but why pay a provider that wants to dictate how you exercise your God given rights.

Step two, find your own doctor.

Step three, excercise your rights with the least amount of hassle available in our messed up state.

Register to vote, and vote out any incumbent that neglects their oaths of office and denies your God given RIGHTS.

I just put that I don't have a doctor. I really don't have a doctor, not just saying that.

I just put that I don't have a doctor. I really don't have a doctor, not just saying that.

Exactly! I had to do that after my doctor refused to sign the medical waiver and attempted to give me a lecture about guns. Dumped her arse and even though my new doc is pro gun, i opt for the “no doctor” option as well.

Since you have not seen behavior health at kaiser, no need worry

Quick update guys. Went in on Columbus day, or whatever the PC people call it now a days, since I was off. I filled out all the paperwork online, plus the Kaiser release form they had on hand.

One SNAFU, since I was born in Japan when my dad was stationed there,  I had to bring in my passport, I had to drive back to Kapolei and back, and made it back in time right at 2:50 before closing. Good thing the officers recognized me.

I just picked up my fascist permission slip yesterday, saying now I have been deemed fit to exercise my 2nd amendment right....

No problems,  thank you all for the help!

Awesome! So what’re thinking of getting. Hypothetically of course. 

Quick update guys. Went in on Columbus day, or whatever the PC people call it now a days, since I was off. I filled out all the paperwork online, plus the Kaiser release form they had on hand.

One SNAFU, since I was born in Japan when my dad was stationed there,  I had to bring in my passport, I had to drive back to Kapolei and back, and made it back in time right at 2:50 before closing. Good thing the officers recognized me.

I just picked up my fascist permission slip yesterday, saying now I have been deemed fit to exercise my 2nd amendment right....

No problems,  thank you all for the help!

 

Awesome! So what’re thinking of getting. Hypothetically of course. 

I was thinking Aero Precision M4E1 with a 16in pencil barrel and mid-length gas system, in FDE, because why not.

I figure buy once cry once. I know if I buy something like a PSA, I would always have the itch to replace it with something else.

I was thinking Aero Precision M4E1 with a 16in pencil barrel and mid-length gas system, in FDE, because why not.

I figure buy once cry once. I know if I buy something like a PSA, I would always have the itch to replace it with something else.

Wanna go for the gusto?  Check out Noveske, KAC, etc.   

Mostly kidding, but if can, CAN!  Haha.  Good luck with the search! 

Wanna go for the gusto?  Check out Noveske, KAC, etc.   

Mostly kidding, but if can, CAN!  Haha.  Good luck with the search!

Who has money for the gucci rifles?!

For me the top of the line would be something like the Knights SR-15, or the LMT New Zealand Reference Rifle...

Genuine military contracts with their in house developed products that are different from the standard "mil-spec" rifles, genuinely cool stuff...

Who has money for the gucci rifles?!

For me the top of the line would be something like the Knights SR-15, or the LMT New Zealand Reference Rifle...

Genuine military contracts with their in house developed products that are different from the standard "mil-spec" rifles, genuinely cool stuff...

Get a Colt.  Fully MILSPEC, law enforcement approved and soon to be a collector's item when they stop production.   

Get a Colt.  Fully MILSPEC, law enforcement approved and soon to be a collector's item when they stop production.   

Colt hasnt done anything new, no R&D, has the attitude of "if its good enough for the US government, its good enough for you.", turned their back on the American consumer, just because they got foreign contracts until 2024, overcharged the US government for the M4, which by the way they do not have the US military contract for anymore, FN does now, which they can sell for about half of what Colt was charging, while still paying royalties to Colt. Also the 6920 was never meant for you and I, they made them for "LE only".

Needless to say I will never, I repeat never, buy a Colt. A shell of a company that has rested on their name, and has not done anything new. Sorry to get on my soap box. Just watch Chris from Small Arms Solutions, which used to work for Colt has to say about the company's attitude.

Its really sad to see how a giant like Colt has fallen so far...

When a country like New Zealand puts out a bid for a rifle that is literally all comers and a no expense spared contract, and LMT comes out on top, that says a lot.

By the way, I think MilSpec is the bare minimum standard for ARs.... There are people that do things better than the technical data package that the US government puts out. Think Knights chrome lined barrels in the Mk12 that are sub MOA...

Who has money for the gucci rifles?!

For me the top of the line would be something like the Knights SR-15, or the LMT New Zealand Reference Rifle...

Genuine military contracts with their in house developed products that are different from the standard "mil-spec" rifles, genuinely cool stuff...

Mostly in jest. Just trying to live vicariously through those that go for the Gucci ones.

One of my first ARs was an LMT MRP and it was quite pricey. I got it mostly for LMT’s reputation (back in 2010 ish) as well as a model that I wanted.  Predecessor to the NZ offering. Since then, I’ve stuck with Colt, BCM, etc.

But yeah, I looked into LMT’s recent stuff and has me tempted. Would have to sell a gun or two to make room, but tempted.

Mostly in jest. Just trying to live vicariously through those that go for the Gucci ones.

One of my first ARs was an LMT MRP and it was quite pricey. I got it mostly for LMT’s reputation (back in 2010 ish) as well as a model that I wanted.  Predecessor to the NZ offering. Since then, I’ve stuck with Colt, BCM, etc.

But yeah, I looked into LMT’s recent stuff and has me tempted. Would have to sell a gun or two to make room, but tempted.

Sorry for the soap box!

In no way do I hate Colt, I think they make fine rifles, and anyone buying them would have a perfectly adequate rifle, it the ethical quandary that if off putting to me

I really would love to be able to have the monies for some of the high end stuff! Do you have a preferred online vendor that you go through to buy stuff?

Also I wish we had a range that we can shoot long range here in Oahu...

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Sorry for the soap box!

In no way do I hate Colt, I think they make fine rifles, and anyone buying them would have a perfectly adequate rifle, it the ethical quandary that if off putting to me

I really would love to be able to have the monies for some of the high end stuff! Do you have a preferred online vendor that you go through to buy stuff?

Also I wish we had a range that we can shoot long range here in Oahu...

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Nah. I hear ya on many aspect of Colt. Even extends to their handguns. But their choice and consumers seem to have responded.

Preferred vendors? Depends on what component(s). I’ve spent a bunch at BCM, Brownells, PSA, etc. kinda just shop around. Last rifle build had a lot of Geissele components. That would’ve been pricey (or more pricey) if I didn’t shop around for a while.

Discussed in other threads, if you can get access, SRGC has some opportunity. I haven’t gone there in many years, so don’t know what’s available. 200-500 yards was somewhat regular. Longer was available, but was rare. 😩

Sorry for the soap box!

In no way do I hate Colt, I think they make fine rifles, and anyone buying them would have a perfectly adequate rifle, it the ethical quandary that if off putting to me

I really would love to be able to have the monies for some of the high end stuff! Do you have a preferred online vendor that you go through to buy stuff?

Also I wish we had a range that we can shoot long range here in Oahu...

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Buying the product is not necessarily an endorsement of their management. If you think "voting with your wallet" will affect any of their decisions, it won't -- particularly in this specific case.  It might make you feel morally righteous, but they obviously won't be making more money off the public with the decision to stop selling ARs to the public.  You're just supporting their competitors with your dollars, which again won't change Colt's decision.  They kind of expect that'll happen when the current inventory is depleted.

I see this as a marketing decision, pure and simple. There are many, many more competitors in the market, some with better/unique products that lure dollars away from their share.  Colt has the patent from Armalite for the AR, but that expired long ago.  They also had the copyright and trademark for "AR" since they bought the rights from Armalite.  Technically speaking, Colt is the only company selling true ARs by definition.  But, what's in a name?  Just something to entice historical purists, I guess.

For decades, when a soldier carried a rifle into battle or on watch, they'd look down and see the Colt logo emblazoned on it. That factors in greatly when a service member or vet shops for a civilian version of the same weapon.  They trust what they learned to use.  Law enforcement -- the same.  That means there will be a market for Colt branded ARs for a very long time.

You can put your soapbox aside and make a logical choice using objective factors, or you can stand on principle. In my opinion, buying an AR because it says "Colt" and for no other reason is just as bad as NOT buying a Colt for the same reason.

I'd look at price, quality, fit, finish, function, reliability, replacement parts availability, accuracy, reputation, and application.  IMO, a Colt hold it's resell value quite well, and it MAY increase in value as many popular-but-now-discontinued brands have become.

Just my 2 cents.  Not trying to convince you to change your mind.  Everyone has their own opinions and principles to guide them.   

Colt purists and value?  Back in the AR craze, and everything gun craze, around 2012-2013, I had redonkulous offers for my NIB Colt 6720.  What was even more  was that many of those offers were often higher because I had the original box and that it was in excellent condition.  Thank you for Clyde Armory for being so awesome with their handling and packing.   

Back on the original tangent (  ) ...

I have a Colt 6940, a Noveske Skinny Carbine Basic MOE, a PWS MK114 piston system, a PSA home-built from blemished receivers (discounted, but I've never found the blemishes!), and a matched upper and lower from Spike's Tactical waiting to have all the other parts added.

I also built a Spikes Tactical: Zombie Edition AR for my daughter. There's much to be said for choosing the components you want. You get the ergonomics, weight, look and features you want without having to mod a rifle you paid good money to have delivered fully assembled. Unfortunately, just like any other project built from components, it tends to cost more than a comparable complete rifle.

Trigger warning!  More Colt talk ahead!!  You've been warned!   


Colt introduced what I thought was a smart line of OEM 6920 rifles without the furniture.  So, for less money, you could get the factory rifle ready to fire but without the butt stock, pistol grip, hand guard, rear sight, optionally the front sight, trigger guard or included magazine many people wind up replacing or removing to suit their tastes or needs.  The OEM1 has the A2 style front sight and gas block, while the OEM2 has the low profile gas block with no front sight -- ready for a free floating hand guard.

If I were starting from square one, I'd personally consider one of those.  Once I had the "itch" to do a self build, I'd have figured out what I like and dislike with my first one.

Food for thought.  Have fun deciding!