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Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« on: October 18, 2019, 08:04:35 AM »
In her moves to become relevant and the pick for Hawaii, shes working with DJT on how best to "work with the Russians". And she almost calls CNN fake news. Almost being the key word.

Hillary Clinton appears to suggest Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.html

Tulsi Gabbard Says CNN Is ‘Completely Despicable’ During Dem Debate Hosted by CNN
https://pluralist.com/tulsi-blasts-cnn-pundits-on-their-own-network-for-suggesting-shes-a-russian-stooge/



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groveler

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2019, 09:34:10 AM »
Russian agent?  That is a Joke!
When I was 18,  I was repairing B-52s
armed with nukes.  I have been on alert pads
and in Weapons storage areas.
I was ready to do whatever
was necessary to obliterate the Soviet union.
I'm a lot older,  much better educated now,  and
Russians are the least of my worries these days.
Tulsi is just a Democrat who is not as crazy as
most other Democrats. 
Russians don't have to interfere in our politics at all,
they just need to wait for the destruction of "American"
culture and infrastructure caused by the Democrat
party and RINOs.


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zippz

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2019, 09:42:46 AM »
She got bachi for changing her mind on impeaching Trump.
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Inspector

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2019, 02:56:40 PM »
Tulsi might be a bit nutty. And I don’t agree with some or most of her policies, but I certainly don’t believe a word that Hilary says. I actually admire Tulsi for going on all news outlets (including Fox) for interviews. After each debate she was in she is the most researched candidate. But the DNC and CNN goes out of their way to cut her off and now attack her. I wonder if her popularity is much higher than is being reported? It makes me believe that the DNC is more afraid of her than other candidates. Yet she is so far down there is no way to overcome Biden, Warren and Bernie. Why would they even bother trying to attack her and keep her silenced unless there is something to Tulsi’s claims that the DNC is working against her. My feeling is she threatens the big donors and the Super PACs and they don’t want her succeeding.  :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
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Jl808

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2019, 03:50:43 PM »
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Jl808

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2019, 03:52:11 PM »
Hawai’i has already produced an Obama.. are we sure another one from here can be trusted with 2A rights?
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changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2019, 04:46:14 PM »
Quote from: Jl808 on October 19, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Hawai’i has already produced an Obama.. are we sure another one from here can be trusted with 2A rights?
To be fair, barry never allowed any gun parts (bump stocks) to be banned.  He did try 2x and failed.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2019, 05:53:00 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on October 19, 2019, 04:46:14 PM
To be fair, barry never allowed any gun parts (bump stocks) to be banned.  He did try 2x and failed.

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The only thing Obama did in the 2A arena was:

1.  Create more demand for guns and ammo (and thus more production, imports and sales) than any other president in 40 years, and

2.  Appoint VP Joe "Do Nothing" Biden to head up hearings to gather ideas and push for more gun control laws.  BTW, this was in the wake of Sandy Hook, when he thought the emotional momentum that event caused would overpower any logic and reasoning 2A supporters could muster.

The main reason nothing happened to advance gun control is because Obama and Biden were 100% incompetent and ineffective.  After Benghazi and Obama all but admitting the Obamacare sales pitch was a pack of lies, nobody paying attention trusted anything he had to say.

Obama laments that he wished he could have done more to enact "common sense" gun laws, so it's not from lack of desire.

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Inspector

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2019, 06:43:43 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on October 19, 2019, 04:46:14 PM
To be fair, barry never allowed any gun parts (bump stocks) to be banned.  He did try 2x and failed.

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He also tried to get green tip 5.56 ammo removed from sale to the public.
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changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2019, 07:03:19 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on October 19, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
He also tried to get green tip 5.56 ammo removed from sale to the public.
Tried, but failed. Greens are rubbish anyways. Speed kills. Xm193 penetrates lvl3 and greens dont.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2019, 09:39:25 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on October 19, 2019, 07:03:19 PM
Tried, but failed. Greens are rubbish anyways. Speed kills. Xm193 penetrates lvl3 and greens dont.

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Rubbish?  Based on what factors?

The round is more accurate at longer ranges than the XM193, and the 62g round performs better in most standard 16" rifles with 1:8 barrel twist.

One person's rubbish ...
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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ren

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2019, 10:28:25 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on October 19, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
Rubbish?  Based on what factors?

The round is more accurate at longer ranges than the XM193, and the 62g round performs better in most standard 16" rifles with 1:8 barrel twist.

One person's rubbish ...

Green tip is doodoo.
I. Get distressed when shooting it at Wilson matches
it's oppressive.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2019, 10:35:37 PM »
Quote from: ren on October 19, 2019, 10:28:25 PM
Green tip is doodoo.
I. Get distressed when shooting it at Wilson matches
it's oppressive.

Green is the original Orange Man Bad?
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2019, 10:40:35 PM »
Quote
It was originally selected by NATO in their search to standardize a second caliber. They decided upon the SS109
which had been designed for use in FN Herstal firearms like the the FN FNC rifle and the FN Minimi machine gun.

The round was essentially developed to increase the range of the FN Minimi machine gun, and NATO
selected it as the best option out of the ammunition it tested. Given the current debate, it is important to note that
the SS109 was not required to pierce body armor, and it was not designed or tested for such. Soon after NATO
examined the SS109, the US Military designated it at the M855, but they are the same round.

https://blog.1800gunsandammo.com/what-makes-m855-green-tip-ammo-so-controversial/
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Heavies

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2019, 09:21:33 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on October 19, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
Rubbish?  Based on what factors?

The round is more accurate at longer ranges than the XM193, and the 62g round performs better in most standard 16" rifles with 1:8 barrel twist.

One person's rubbish ...

The 193 goes subsonic at around 450 500 yards, that's why the are no good out to farther ranges.  855 will stay super sonic farther, giving better "accuracy" at range. 

However the military's standards for accuracy doesn't mean sniper/match quality ammo.  I think it was something like 4 MOA?  or about 24" @ 600 yards... 
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2019, 10:36:56 PM »
Quote from: Heavies on October 20, 2019, 09:21:33 PM
The 193 goes subsonic at around 450 500 yards, that's why the are no good out to farther ranges.  855 will stay super sonic farther, giving better "accuracy" at range. 

However the military's standards for accuracy doesn't mean sniper/match quality ammo.  I think it was something like 4 MOA?  or about 24" @ 600 yards...

That's why I asked CMO for clarification.  If it's a better round at over 500 yds than the more commonly used ammo, on what factors is the opinion of "rubbish" based?  Lethality at close range? Can carry lighter weight ammo more easily and in larger quantities? Cost?

It's not classified armor piercing for a reason.  It's a penetrating round with a steel tip.  Of course the applications will be different than a hollow point FMJ round.  That doesn't make it rubbish, though, IMO.

Also, today's body armor is a different breed that what was available when the round was developed.  Its primary purpose was to penetrate steel helmets.

Times have changed.  Doesn't mean the round is 100% obsolete.
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zippz

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2019, 11:09:21 PM »
I wonder if Tulsi ever sighs and thinks "I should've been a Republican."

She seems to want the old Democratic party back, pre craziness.  When they were more moderate and willing to be more bipartisan.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2019, 11:23:51 PM »
Quote from: zippz on October 20, 2019, 11:09:21 PM
I wonder if Tulsi ever sighs and thinks "I should've been a Republican."

She seems to want the old Democratic party back, pre craziness.  When they were more moderate and willing to be more bipartisan.

The Far Left whackos of the DNC (AOC + 3, etc.) are pulling the party way farther Left than most of the party likes.  What we see in the debates with free everything for everybody (illegal residents included) and forced compliance with "gun buy-backs" is an attempt to pander to those far left groups that get the most media attention and are most active on Social Media.

Unless and until the moderate (i.e. sane) Liberals take control of the party, there's going to be a struggle within the party to decide how far left they will lean.

The fact that a lifelong self-proclaimed Socialist was almost the party nominee in 2016 and has been in the top 2 or 3 (formerly the #1 leader before Biden came out of hiding) out of a couple dozen running in 2020 tells me the party is in for a long fight to try and center itself again.  Either that, or they've seen the last Democrat in the oval office for quote a while.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2019, 09:28:30 PM »
The democratic race just got so much more interesting.
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changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi is a Russian Agent
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2019, 09:11:00 AM »
People forgetting who funded her in 2016.  Deep State trying to fool people by making it seem the DNC is fighting with each other.  All for show.
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