Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Read 78214 times)

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #160 on: December 23, 2019, 06:12:06 AM »
insert Gollum meme
Impeachment precious

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #161 on: December 23, 2019, 06:13:58 AM »
Impeachment precious
Orange Man My Precious
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #162 on: December 23, 2019, 08:52:46 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #164 on: December 23, 2019, 09:38:14 AM »
So the Ukraine testimony was a fizzle, now the fake news this morning is saying they have 150 emails that link a QPQ about withholding money.  Why wasn't this brought up earlier?  Oh yeah, they're still fishing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #165 on: December 23, 2019, 10:38:40 AM »
So the Ukraine testimony was a fizzle, now the fake news this morning is saying they have 150 emails that link a QPQ about withholding money.  Why wasn't this brought up earlier?  Oh yeah, they're still fishing.

Schiff also had irrefutable evidence that absolutely, undeniably proved Trump colluded with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election.  I guess Shifty Schiff forgot to forward that evidence to Mueller. 

Even after Mueller testified, Schiff continued to push his lie, because he was talking about "collusion", not "conspiracy".   :wtf:

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Responding to attacks by White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, Rep. Adam Schiff on Sunday insisted
his criticism of the Trump administration was not wrong, saying there was “ample evidence of collusion in plain
sight.”

“I use that word very carefully,” the California Democrat said on ABC’s “This Week,” “because I also distinguish
time and time again between collusion, that is acts of corruption that may or may not be criminal, and proof of a
criminal conspiracy. And that is a distinction that Bob Mueller made within the first few pages of his report. In fact,
every act that I’ve pointed to as evidence of collusion has now been borne out by the report.“

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/21/adam-schiff-collusion-trump-1283786

However, here's what Mueller said in his report:

Quote
Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump
presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit
electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not
establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian
government
in its election interference activities.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

Mueller also chose his words carefully.  How can there be "collusion" according the Schiff if there was no "coordination" according to Mueller?   :wacko:

Swamp critters count on the voters being too lazy to read the report for themselves.

Don't believe evidence of anything exists re: Trump until it's made public and can be verified as authentic (call back to the GW Bush Air National Guard phony documents).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #166 on: December 23, 2019, 01:18:48 PM »


Don't believe evidence of anything exists re: Trump until it's made public and can be verified as authentic (call back to the GW Bush Air National Guard phony documents).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

Like how the top forensic lab in the nation said that Barry's birth certificate is a fake. #tinfoil

I thought GW didn't get sent to Nam, but his entire unit did?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #167 on: December 23, 2019, 03:22:39 PM »
Like how the top forensic lab in the nation said that Barry's birth certificate is a fake. #tinfoil

I thought GW didn't get sent to Nam, but his entire unit did?

Source?  Details?

Based on what I've seen and read, National Guard units were not assigned to Vietnam, but many individuals volunteered to go.

Almost 23K Army and Air Guardsmen were called up to active duty, but only about 8,300 went to Vietnam.  The rest presumably served in the US or at other geographic areas in support roles.

As a matter of witness accounts, Bush inquired about a program that allowed National Guard pilot volunteers to go to Vietnam, but his total of flight hours in the F-102 was less than the 500 hours needed to go.  Plus, the F-102 was about to be withdrawn from the Vietnam theater that year anyway (1968).

Bush continued his part time National Guard duties until 1972 recording 336 flight hours in the F-102.

We did the same for Desert Storm.  Active duty deployed to the war zone, and Reserve and National Guard were called up to "backfill" the billets they vacated.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #168 on: December 23, 2019, 07:14:47 PM »
After watching every anchor, opinion peddler and members of past impeachment teams, I've decided McConnell needs to exclude testimony from HOUSE witnesses who did not give testimony in the Schiff Show. 

The only new witnesses in the Senate trial should be DEFENSE witnesses for Trump.

No new accusations or "evidence" FOR impeachment should be allowed.  The House did the investigation.  The Senate tries the case on those facts and on the evidence offered by the President's legal team.

If the Dems want fair, that's what fair looks like.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #169 on: December 23, 2019, 09:54:22 PM »
Impeachment is a dead cat.  Stop playing with it! 

Bury it.  It's going nowhere.

--Senator Lindsey Graham


 :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #170 on: December 24, 2019, 10:31:42 AM »
Trump is the 3rd President to have been impeached by the House of Representatives.

If the scuttle-but is true, he may also be the 4TH IMPEACHED PRESIDENT, too!!    :wacko:

Now the Dems want to add impeachment article/s  because they argue his former White House Counsel MIGHT have testimony of Trump "trying" to obstruct justice by wanting Mueller fired.  They don't have the testimony which the court has to compel because the players are invoking Executive Privilege.

So, the Dems are thinking of "piling on" an ATTEMPTED obstruction charge without evidence, even though he did not remove Mueller -- WHICH he had the 100% legal right to do!!  He would have obstructed NOTHING, because if Mueller was fired, another special prosecutor would have simply been appointed in his place.  As we saw in Mueller's testimony before Congress, his staff did everything for him anyway. 

Obstruction of justice usually includes lying, destruction or altering of evidence, and witness tampering.  Firing the lead counsel (which he could not do if he didn't have that right) is not obstruction.

The Democrats in the House are just digging this failed impeachment fiasco deeper and deeper.  What kind of moron thinks it helps their case to pass another article of impeachment before they've sent the first to to the Senate for a trial?

I guess Ukraine wasn't a big enough nothing burger.  Now they want to order a  side nothing fries!!   :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #171 on: December 24, 2019, 10:38:55 AM »
QUESTION:

At what point are your eyebrows considered part of your hairline?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #172 on: December 24, 2019, 10:57:52 AM »
Answer: When you have had a few too many...

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #173 on: December 24, 2019, 11:14:26 AM »
headline on Yahoo was Trump staffer lawsuit for being fired for being pregnant.  I expect more stories like this to popup because of the failed Russia and Ukraine story.

I didn't read the full story, but something about she had an affair with a tech guy and got preggers.  Then once the campaign found out, communications with her stopped.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #174 on: December 24, 2019, 02:01:21 PM »
headline on Yahoo was Trump staffer lawsuit for being fired for being pregnant.  I expect more stories like this to popup because of the failed Russia and Ukraine story.

I didn't read the full story, but something about she had an affair with a tech guy and got preggers.  Then once the campaign found out, communications with her stopped.

When you're hired "at will" and are let go, no explanation is needed.  Unless someone with DIRECT (not hearsay) knowledge acknowledges the firing was for reasons protected under federal law (EEOC, etc), she has no case.

Playing the "Bun in the Oven" card   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #175 on: December 24, 2019, 06:17:28 PM »
When you're hired "at will" and are let go, no explanation is needed.  Unless someone with DIRECT (not hearsay) knowledge acknowledges the firing was for reasons protected under federal law (EEOC, etc), she has no case.

Playing the "Bun in the Oven" card   :rofl:
Courts struck her down, shes appealing.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #176 on: December 24, 2019, 09:26:24 PM »
Courts struck her down, shes appealing.

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What does her appearance have to do with it?

 :wave:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #177 on: December 25, 2019, 05:02:49 AM »
Trump is the 3rd President to have been impeached by the House of Representatives.

If the scuttle-but is true, he may also be the 4TH IMPEACHED PRESIDENT, too!!    :wacko:

Now the Dems want to add impeachment article/s  because they argue his former White House Counsel MIGHT have testimony of Trump "trying" to obstruct justice by wanting Mueller fired.  They don't have the testimony which the court has to compel because the players are invoking Executive Privilege.

So, the Dems are thinking of "piling on" an ATTEMPTED obstruction charge without evidence, even though he did not remove Mueller -- WHICH he had the 100% legal right to do!!  He would have obstructed NOTHING, because if Mueller was fired, another special prosecutor would have simply been appointed in his place.  As we saw in Mueller's testimony before Congress, his staff did everything for him anyway. 

Obstruction of justice usually includes lying, destruction or altering of evidence, and witness tampering.  Firing the lead counsel (which he could not do if he didn't have that right) is not obstruction.

The Democrats in the House are just digging this failed impeachment fiasco deeper and deeper.  What kind of moron thinks it helps their case to pass another article of impeachment before they've sent the first to to the Senate for a trial?

I guess Ukraine wasn't a big enough nothing burger.  Now they want to order a  side nothing fries!!   :rofl: :rofl:
I am not sure if you remember this, but Mueller was compromised in his investigation. If my memory serves me correctly, Mueller had some sort of financial dealing with Trump a long time ago. And apparently it didn’t go well. And there apparently was some animus by Mueller towards Trump. He should have never taken the job and Trump should have fired him immediately. With that said, hindsight is 20/20 so it turned out well for Trump due to Mueller not being the person he used to be mentally.

What I find interesting is some of my friends with TDS admit the impeachment articles are weak. And that the accusations are trumped up. But TDS is so strong emotionally in them, they want everything possible thrown at Trump in the hopes something might stick. It doesn’t matter the implications that Trump is not guilty of anything. Nor do they care how this is hurting the country. They just want him gone. We are in a sad state in this country right now.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #178 on: December 25, 2019, 12:19:10 PM »
I am not sure if you remember this, but Mueller was compromised in his investigation. If my memory serves me correctly, Mueller had some sort of financial dealing with Trump a long time ago. And apparently it didn’t go well. And there apparently was some animus by Mueller towards Trump. He should have never taken the job and Trump should have fired him immediately. With that said, hindsight is 20/20 so it turned out well for Trump due to Mueller not being the person he used to be mentally.

What I find interesting is some of my friends with TDS admit the impeachment articles are weak. And that the accusations are trumped up. But TDS is so strong emotionally in them, they want everything possible thrown at Trump in the hopes something might stick. It doesn’t matter the implications that Trump is not guilty of anything. Nor do they care how this is hurting the country. They just want him gone. We are in a sad state in this country right now.

More recently, Mueller was asked under oath if he was expecting Trump to offer HIM the FBI Director job.  When that didn't happen, it became at least a potential conflict for him to investigate Trump.

If I recall from the testimony, there was evidence given on the record that that was the case, even though Mueller initially tried to deny it.

Quote
Unnamed sources reported to Fox News that there are government documents showing that Mueller had been
vying to replace ex-FBI Director James Comey when he met with President Donald Trump, but knew days before
that he could become special counsel if the FBI job fell through.

The news comes as emails that were released through a Freedom of Information Act by the conservative Judicial
Watch indicated Mueller knew he could be put in charge of the Russia investigation, reports Fox.

A source close to then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein confirmed he'd had several confidential
conversations with Mueller about serving as special counsel, beginning on May 12, 2017, four days before Mueller
met with President Donald Trump on May 16.

Comey had been fired just days before the Mueller-Trump meeting, and the day after they met, Mueller was named
as special counsel to oversee the investigation.

Trump has often claimed that Mueller, the FBI director under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, had
met with him about returning to his former job, saying it was a conflict of interest for Mueller to oversee the Russia
investigation.

"Hire me."

"No."

(To himself) "That's okay.  I'll be investigating you soon."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/robert-mueller-comey-fbi-trump/2019/10/09/id/936281/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #179 on: December 25, 2019, 01:10:20 PM »
Whats more important is that mueller said iraq had wmds. We based an entire war off of that false intel. Not even a fart in a jar was found.

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