Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Read 78213 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #180 on: December 25, 2019, 02:25:16 PM »
Whats more important is that mueller said iraq had wmds. We based an entire war off of that false intel. Not even a fart in a jar was found.

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Incorrect.

They found WMDs, but in amounts that did not rise to the level of a realistic threat against Iraq's neighboring countries.

The intelligence INFORMATION may have been incorrect, but a large part of that blame lies with Hussein for refusing UN required inspections in 1998-2002.  We get information wrong all the time, often because of counter-intelligence/misinformation efforts.  We have to make decisions on the information we have at hand.  Sometimes doing nothing is worse than getting it wrong.

If you were the leader of Iraq, and you knew allowing UN inspections again would stop the war, why would you not?   
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #181 on: December 25, 2019, 03:34:01 PM »
Iowa Caucus is scheduled Monday, Feb 3rd.

New Hampshire is Tuesday, Feb 11.

Senators running still in the primary:

Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Amy Klobuchar

And, if one of the drop-outs, like Corey Booker or Kamala Harris, are tapped by the nominee as a running mate, they can also be tied up in a prolonged impeachment trial -- or even with multiple trials if the House keeps up their shenanigans -- while trying to campaign.

When the Senate is involved in an impeachment trial, the Senate is not allowed to take up any new issues until impeachment proceedings are completed.  They are also required to be in attendance, meaning they can't be off campaigning, holding rallies and fundraisers, or doing talk shows and returning to DC just to cast a vote once in awhile.

As it stands, one could argue that Pelosi through impeachment, while possibly trying to help Trump lose in November, could also be preventing the Dem frontrunners , 3 of them Senators, from winning, too.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #182 on: December 26, 2019, 09:37:01 AM »
Iowa Caucus is scheduled Monday, Feb 3rd.

New Hampshire is Tuesday, Feb 11.

Senators running still in the primary:

Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders
Amy Klobuchar

And, if one of the drop-outs, like Corey Booker or Kamala Harris, are tapped by the nominee as a running mate, they can also be tied up in a prolonged impeachment trial -- or even with multiple trials if the House keeps up their shenanigans -- while trying to campaign.

When the Senate is involved in an impeachment trial, the Senate is not allowed to take up any new issues until impeachment proceedings are completed.  They are also required to be in attendance, meaning they can't be off campaigning, holding rallies and fundraisers, or doing talk shows and returning to DC just to cast a vote once in awhile.

As it stands, one could argue that Pelosi through impeachment, while possibly trying to help Trump lose in November, could also be preventing the Dem frontrunners , 3 of them Senators, from winning, too.

Damn didn't know that.  So there is more than 1 alternate motive to holding the impeachment vote results.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #183 on: December 26, 2019, 10:13:53 AM »
Damn didn't know that.  So there is more than 1 alternate motive to holding the impeachment vote results.

Yep.  Pelosi might have been trying to get the trial over before the Democrat primaries start, to help her Dem Senators.

But, now with her delaying the process, that motive might not hold as much water.  She's juggling too many knives. 

That assumes they WANT to help Bernie, Liz and Amy.  They might be pulling a 2016, and doing whatever they can to help Biden -- like they did carrying Hildabeast to the finish line. 

Take the Senators out of contention, and Biden gains a LOT of distance in the first place position.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #184 on: December 26, 2019, 02:38:57 PM »
Yep.  Pelosi might have been trying to get the trial over before the Democrat primaries start, to help her Dem Senators.

But, now with her delaying the process, that motive might not hold as much water.  She's juggling too many knives. 

That assumes they WANT to help Bernie, Liz and Amy.  They might be pulling a 2016, and doing whatever they can to help Biden -- like they did carrying Hildabeast to the finish line. 

Take the Senators out of contention, and Biden gains a LOT of distance in the first place position.
Maybe Biden can debate himself in the next Dem debates? Think that’s funny? He might lose.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #185 on: December 26, 2019, 05:24:50 PM »
Maybe Biden can debate himself in the next Dem debates? Think that’s funny? He might lose.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm surprised the debates haven't been rescheduled to earlier in the day ... you know, to avoid "sundowners syndrome".   :wave:

And I'm not just talking about ONE of the candidates, either!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #186 on: December 26, 2019, 08:15:59 PM »
Maybe Biden can debate himself in the next Dem debates? Think that’s funny? He might lose.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Debate between AOC and Biden with xynax pelosi asking the questions.

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Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #187 on: December 27, 2019, 05:28:17 AM »
I'm surprised the debates haven't been rescheduled to earlier in the day ... you know, to avoid "sundowners syndrome".   :wave:

And I'm not just talking about ONE of the candidates, either!
There’s always methamphetamines.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #188 on: December 28, 2019, 06:56:22 AM »
Get this, Schiff is now gathering evidence against Vice President Pence. Is this so they can impeach him as well? The coup is in full swing. Next in line? Nancy Pelosi. If this isn’t an obvious coup attempt now, I don’t know what is.

Now an article came out saying Pelosi should hold on to the articles until after the 2020 elections hoping to gain control of the senate?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/two-reasons-pelosi-will-probably-delay-impeachment-until-after-the-election/

So obvious this is an attempted coup.  >:( >:( >:(
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #189 on: December 28, 2019, 02:52:27 PM »
Get this, Schiff is now gathering evidence against Vice President Pence. Is this so they can impeach him as well? The coup is in full swing. Next in line? Nancy Pelosi. If this isn’t an obvious coup attempt now, I don’t know what is.

Now an article came out saying Pelosi should hold on to the articles until after the 2020 elections hoping to gain control of the senate?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/two-reasons-pelosi-will-probably-delay-impeachment-until-after-the-election/

So obvious this is an attempted coup.  >:( >:( >:(

Alternative scenarios:

1.  McConnell schedules the trial without waiting for Pelosi to transmit the articles.  That transmission process is based on a SENATE RULE, and we all know rules are made to be changed in the Senate.  Right, Harry Reid? 

2.  The articles of impeachment actually include the phrase:  "Resolved ... that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate."  Based on their own resolution, the articles MUST BE TRANSMITTED to the Senate, or else Pelosi is abusing her power and obstructing Congress.

3.  Pelosi adds more articles to the initial 2, just to pile on as many smears as possible without actually caring if the trial ever happens.  All she cares about is weaponizing impeachment to give their eventual nominee as much ammunition against Trump as they can fabricate.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #190 on: January 08, 2020, 06:05:46 PM »
it's getting so even the Dems in the Senate are getting tired of Pelosi's impeachment games.

"The longer it goes on the less urgent it becomes.  So if it’s serious and urgent, send them over. If it isn’t, don’t send it over."
-- Senator Diane Feinstein (D), CA

That's coming from a Senator from Pelosi's own state, too.

I doubt Pelosi has some grand, masterful strategy.  Otherwise, Feinstein would be aware of it and would not be making a public comment like this.

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Dianne-Feinstein-Nancy-Pelosi-impeachment-delay-14959626.php
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

6716J

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #191 on: January 09, 2020, 10:45:35 AM »
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2020, 10:59:15 AM »
it's getting so even the Dems in the Senate are getting tired of Pelosi's impeachment games.

"The longer it goes on the less urgent it becomes.  So if it’s serious and urgent, send them over. If it isn’t, don’t send it over."
-- Senator Diane Feinstein (D), CA

That's coming from a Senator from Pelosi's own state, too.

I doubt Pelosi has some grand, masterful strategy.  Otherwise, Feinstein would be aware of it and would not be making a public comment like this.

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Dianne-Feinstein-Nancy-Pelosi-impeachment-delay-14959626.php
There are a lot more Dems getting on her about it now. Last I heard 8 or 10?
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Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2020, 11:11:49 AM »
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2020, 11:50:06 AM »
There are a lot more Dems getting on her about it now. Last I heard 8 or 10?
I first read that as 8 OUT OF 10. . . Wish things would get there. 

The more she appears on TV, the more I 1) can't believe how stupid she comes of when she give impromptu statements and 2) how much darn cosmetic surgery she must have had. . .  :rofl:

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #195 on: January 09, 2020, 11:58:46 AM »
I first read that as 8 OUT OF 10. . . Wish things would get there. 

The more she appears on TV, the more I 1) can't believe how stupid she comes of when she give impromptu statements and 2) how much darn cosmetic surgery she must have had. . .  :rofl:
She has age spots on top of age spots.  :shake: :shake: :shake:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #196 on: January 10, 2020, 07:41:19 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/10/pelosi-said-house-will-move-send-impeachment-articles-senate-next-week/

Either way, let’s just get this 💩 over with. Hopefully it comes back to bite people like Pelosi and others in the ass, but just this crap has gone on too long.

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #197 on: January 10, 2020, 10:21:01 AM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/10/pelosi-said-house-will-move-send-impeachment-articles-senate-next-week/

Either way, let’s just get this 💩 over with. Hopefully it comes back to bite people like Pelosi and others in the ass, but just this crap has gone on too long.
The very first sentence of that article: "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the House will take steps next week to sent articles of impeachment to the Senate for President Donald Trump’s Senate trial."

What does that mean "will take steps"? Does that mean it is going to happen or is she going to continue to hang on to them while she works on it? What a hag....
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #198 on: January 10, 2020, 10:24:37 AM »
Notice how the fake news doesn't say "complete", but uses "take steps".

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #199 on: January 10, 2020, 10:26:30 AM »
Notice how the fake news doesn't say "complete", but uses "take steps".
Yeah, but that is Pelosi's direct quote. So she said it.
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