Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Read 78214 times)

bass monkey

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #220 on: January 16, 2020, 06:23:48 PM »
Wait I thought the media said Trump was already impeached
Heck it was even parroted on here that he was impeached.
Is he being impeached again?

Hahaha.  Just goes to show how wrong they were.

I can't wait till the republicans can call the witnesses, like the whistleblower to testify.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #221 on: January 16, 2020, 10:41:52 PM »
Wait I thought the media said Trump was already impeached
Heck it was even parroted on here that he was impeached.
Is he being impeached again?

Hahaha.  Just goes to show how wrong they were.

I can't wait till the republicans can call the witnesses, like the whistleblower to testify.

No matter what happens, Trump will not be found guilty and he will not be removed from office.

We all see the weak case for what it is -- a political smear job in a presidential election year.  We all see why -- because they can't compete for the Presidency against Trump legitimately.

Nancy was harping several times on the fact that  "Trump is impeached forever.  Nobody can change that".

Trump will also go down in history as the First President in over 200 years to be impeached AND win reelection.

That, too, will last forever.  Winning!!  :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #222 on: January 17, 2020, 11:48:12 AM »
So now that the impeachment is complete, does this mean Warren and Sanders cannot campaign anymore until the hearing is done?  What about Tulsi?

drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #223 on: January 17, 2020, 11:55:22 AM »
Wait I thought the media said Trump was already impeached
Heck it was even parroted on here that he was impeached.
Is he being impeached again?

Hahaha.  Just goes to show how wrong they were.

I can't wait till the republicans can call the witnesses, like the whistleblower to testify.
Interesting choice of animal. . .  :rofl:

I am also looking forward to how things will go in the Senate.  What information comes out, the mad scramble to either cover up or divert, etc.  Who will end up on a plane that is shot down by Iranian missiles. . .

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #224 on: January 17, 2020, 12:38:59 PM »
Interesting choice of animal. . .  :rofl:

I am also looking forward to how things will go in the Senate.  What information comes out, the mad scramble to either cover up or divert, etc.  Who will end up on a plane that is shot down by Iranian missiles. . .

US citizens, posing as Canadian citizens.  Which organization does this as common practice?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #225 on: January 17, 2020, 12:40:45 PM »
So now that the impeachment is complete, does this mean Warren and Sanders cannot campaign anymore until the hearing is done?  What about Tulsi?

Don't forget Senators Amy Klobuchar and Michael Bennet.

Yep.  They are required to be in DC until the trial ends.  Plus, they can't discuss the impeachment trial.  But they can still campaign remotely through their volunteers and paid supporters.

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But while the Massachusetts senator [Warren] has said for months that “some things are more important than politics” — like impeachment — she now admits that with three weeks to go before the Iowa caucuses, there’s simply no substitute for being there.

That would be more believable if at least one Republican in the House voted for impeachment.  Even some Dems voted "no" or "present", because they know this is a partisan assault on the President.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/10/trump-impeachment-2020-campaigns-096886
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #226 on: January 19, 2020, 07:30:41 AM »
It appears that dismissal is off the table now. Which I think is a good thing. There are enough Republican Senators that want to see the House’s case against the president before voting to acquit or call witnesses. This is reasonable in my opinion. I think acquittal is in the president’s best interest over dismissal. However, I also believe that a quick trial is also in the country’s best interest. It is obvious to me that the timing of the transmitting of the articles was done purposely in order to keep Bernie and Warren off the campaign trail. I would really hate to see witnesses called in order to extend the trial. If the democrats get their way, the trial could feasibly go beyond the 2020 election. Another clown show will go awry. The transcript is the president’s best piece of evidence. Also, the way the House investigation was conducted is also in his best interest. I hope that after the House presents their case that the Senate votes to acquit and get this clown show over with.

If witnesses are called I hope the Senate only calls witnesses that will expose the corruption on the Democrat side. And they should only allow the same witnesses that were called during the House investigation. Any new witnesses from the House Democrats will turn what I already consider a clown show into a shit show. If the Senate allows witnesses to be called they need to remember that the Senate needs to take their jobs seriously and not allow the House Democrats run the show.

In the meantime I scratched my head over the decision to have Dershowitz and Starr join the president’s defense team. Both of these guys have a past that is questionable to some extent. I heard Dershowitz say he was going to present some of the oral arguments. I hope they keep Starr out of the limelight and keep him in the back. Otherwise the Democrats and MSM could have a field day with these two due to their past. I kinda get why they chose Dershowitz. He is very much a liberal Democrat. But he is also a constitutional expert that realizes what the Democrats are doing here. And if they are successful it will weaken the presidency for all future presidents. This will in turn give more power to the Congress and particularly the House. He has some cred on the Democrat side. What I don’t understand is what Ken Starr brings to the team? Hopefully, he brings some impeachment experience that is helpful to the team but I really think they should keep him in the background.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #227 on: January 19, 2020, 04:43:50 PM »
It appears that dismissal is off the table now. Which I think is a good thing. There are enough Republican Senators that want to see the House’s case against the president before voting to acquit or call witnesses. This is reasonable in my opinion. I think acquittal is in the president’s best interest over dismissal. However, I also believe that a quick trial is also in the country’s best interest. It is obvious to me that the timing of the transmitting of the articles was done purposely in order to keep Bernie and Warren off the campaign trail. I would really hate to see witnesses called in order to extend the trial. If the democrats get their way, the trial could feasibly go beyond the 2020 election. Another clown show will go awry. The transcript is the president’s best piece of evidence. Also, the way the House investigation was conducted is also in his best interest. I hope that after the House presents their case that the Senate votes to acquit and get this clown show over with.

If witnesses are called I hope the Senate only calls witnesses that will expose the corruption on the Democrat side. And they should only allow the same witnesses that were called during the House investigation. Any new witnesses from the House Democrats will turn what I already consider a clown show into a shit show. If the Senate allows witnesses to be called they need to remember that the Senate needs to take their jobs seriously and not allow the House Democrats run the show.

In the meantime I scratched my head over the decision to have Dershowitz and Starr join the president’s defense team. Both of these guys have a past that is questionable to some extent. I heard Dershowitz say he was going to present some of the oral arguments. I hope they keep Starr out of the limelight and keep him in the back. Otherwise the Democrats and MSM could have a field day with these two due to their past. I kinda get why they chose Dershowitz. He is very much a liberal Democrat. But he is also a constitutional expert that realizes what the Democrats are doing here. And if they are successful it will weaken the presidency for all future presidents. This will in turn give more power to the Congress and particularly the House. He has some cred on the Democrat side. What I don’t understand is what Ken Starr brings to the team? Hopefully, he brings some impeachment experience that is helpful to the team but I really think they should keep him in the background.

More likely, it was because Nancy's souvenir pens hadn't come back from the supplier yet.

 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #228 on: January 19, 2020, 04:51:17 PM »
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Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #229 on: January 19, 2020, 04:52:22 PM »
More likely, it was because Nancy's souvenir pens hadn't come back from the supplier yet.

 :rofl:
I heard the pens are going for $1k somewhere.  :rofl:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #230 on: January 19, 2020, 05:04:14 PM »
I heard the pens are going for $1k somewhere.  :rofl:

Trump is the President of "Firsts":

First to be impeached in his first term.

First to be impeached with absolutely no underlying criminal statutes as the basis.

Soon he'll be the first reelected after being impeached.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #231 on: January 21, 2020, 06:02:58 AM »
New members added to Trump’s impeachment team:

Reps Doug Collins, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Debbie Lesko, Mark Meadows, John Ratcliffe, Elise Stefanik, and Lee Zeldin.

Most of them were present during the secretive witness testimonies and if anything is brought up from those testimonies, I am sure the truth will be brought out.
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drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #232 on: January 21, 2020, 07:55:31 AM »
New members added to Trump’s impeachment team:

Reps Doug Collins, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Debbie Lesko, Mark Meadows, John Ratcliffe, Elise Stefanik, and Lee Zeldin.

Most of them were present during the secretive witness testimonies and if anything is brought up from those testimonies, I am sure the truth will be brought out.
Moves and counter moves.

Don’t really care of McConnell, but liked his opening statement. Or at least the portion I listened to.

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #233 on: January 21, 2020, 08:20:10 AM »
Moves and counter moves.

Don’t really care of McConnell, but liked his opening statement. Or at least the portion I listened to.
To me McConnell is a mixed bag. He has given in way too many times to the Democrats during his time as Senate Majority Leader. More recently he has found his balls and stood up to them. But I don’t trust that he won’t allow this to become a circus. At least to a small extent if not to a larger extent. Because he is not as solid as I would like to see him, and due to his desire to run a “Fair” trial, I think he will give in a little to the Democrats. I hope he realizes his mistakes early and puts the brakes on it quickly or the clown show will turn into the shit show faster than Mac can say “heads”.
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drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #234 on: January 21, 2020, 08:48:38 AM »
To me McConnell is a mixed bag. He has given in way too many times to the Democrats during his time as Senate Majority Leader. More recently he has found his balls and stood up to them. But I don’t trust that he won’t allow this to become a circus. At least to a small extent if not to a larger extent. Because he is not as solid as I would like to see him, and due to his desire to run a “Fair” trial, I think he will give in a little to the Democrats. I hope he realizes his mistakes early and puts the brakes on it quickly or the clown show will turn into the shit show faster than Mac can say “heads”.
The mixed bag aspect is a big part of why I don't care for him.  I don't think things will turn into a circus, but the more it does I think it will venture deeper into areas where at least one side won't want it to go.  I do think the fair trial aspect is good over the dismissal up front. 

changemyoil66

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #235 on: January 21, 2020, 01:18:20 PM »
I find it hilarious how the fake news and DNC are all saying "we must abide by the constitution" or "the constitution is clear" and blah blah blah. 

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #236 on: January 21, 2020, 01:39:04 PM »
I find it hilarious how the fake news and DNC are all saying "we must abide by the constitution" or "the constitution is clear" and blah blah blah.
It actually is very clear. It is the House's duty to investigate and call witnesses and if necessary, write the articles of impeachment, vote for them, then transmit them to the Senate. It is the Senate's duty to try the articles. Not add to the articles for the House, not investigate more for the house, the senators are nothing more than jurors. The House presents it's case via the articles. Once the articles are written and transmitted there is not supposed to be adding more to them or helping the House make a better case for the House. That is solely the Houses's duty. If the Senate does their job as clearly stated in the Constitution then there should be no witnesses called except those called in the articles in case clarification is necessary. The entire case are the articles of impeachment. All witnesses that needed to be called have been called already. If more are needed then the House needs to deal with it in the House. Not the Senate. The Constitution is clear IMHO.

The MSM is lying. But you already now that.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #237 on: January 21, 2020, 07:38:14 PM »
Holy Mr. Hypocrite Nadler. He really seems to believe the BS he’s shoveling.  :grrr:

Inspector

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #238 on: January 21, 2020, 07:41:47 PM »
Holy Mr. Hypocrite Nadler. He really seems to believe the BS he’s shoveling.  :grrr:
Schiff, too.
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drck1000

Re: Trump Impeachment Proceedings
« Reply #239 on: January 21, 2020, 07:45:29 PM »
Schiff, too.
That was earlier and yeah. 🤮

Sekulow blistered Nadler. How can Nadler say that stuff? Really...