I'm a little worried about the ban on all firearms. I wanted to get rid of my guns and ammo before they are actually taken. Can I take them to any police station or only Beretania station? Paperwork is at the Beretania station.
Please help.   

I'm a little worried about the ban on all firearms. I wanted to get rid of my guns and ammo before they are actually taken. Can I take them to any police station or only Beretania station? Paperwork is at the Beretania station.
Please help.   

Just give them to me.

I'll meet you to sign them over. I'm even willing to give you a little money too.

Don't risk it by keeping them, I'm willing to help.

I will defend our right to bare arms.

And I'll actively fight to defend the right to bare legs and bare chests (but only if the person in question is single, female, 23-38 years old, possessing Double Ds, athletic build, double jointed and of negotiable moral character  . Extra points if they like paunchy middle-aged guys).

Everyone else is on their own. 

Sir I hate you.  I personally support the right to arm bears and don't seem like anyone else here is at all concerned about those bears.

Just give them to me.

I'll meet you to sign them over. I'm even willing to give you a little money too.

Don't risk it by keeping them, I'm willing to help.

Damn you're too quick.

I will defend our right to bare arms.

And I'll actively fight to defend the right to bare legs and bare chests (but only if the person in question is single, female, 23-38 years old 18-30 years old, possessing Double Ds, athletic build, double jointed and of negotiable moral character  . Extra points if they like paunchy middle-aged guys).

Everyone else is on their own. 

There I fixed it
DD at 38 would look fried eggs hanging on a nail.

Section 1021 in its entirety:
My question...did YOU read it? Do it again and pay special attention to the parts I underlined. Firearms are not mentioned in any part of 1021, so I don't see how anyone can logically conclude that it has anything to do with a "complete ban".

Did you hear about the part where he bypassed congress? I was just saying that was his stepping stone for what was to come next!

You mean the part where congress passed the bill and Obama then signed it?

You mean the part where congress passed the bill and Obama then signed it?

Nope, I read a email from a source that had said he by passed congress on this gun ban. Not many people know about this one!

Nope, I read a email from a source that had said he by passed congress on this gun ban. Not many people know about this one!

Do you believe all the chain emails you get? Most chain emails are garbage created by people who are bored for their own amusement. If you think about it, the email itself tells you it's garbage, why else is this amazing "information" that very few people know about only being distributed via email? I would advise checking before believing anything that originated from an unknown source.
http://www.snopes.com/
http://www.factcheck.org/
http://www.truthorfiction.com/

The email you got is probably some mix of these two
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/ndaa.asp

Nope, I read a email from a source that had said he by passed congress on this gun ban. Not many people know about this one!

Not many know because it doesn't exist. There are a lot of stories spouting the same B.S., but NEVER any facts to back them up. Why? It's an election year and YOU drank the kool-aid buddy. They're playing on peoples fear to win votes for the "other guy".

If I believed every email I got, I would be a Nigerian millionaire. Trust but verify should be the rule and don't cave in to the "chicken little" mentality...next time post facts that are from reputable sources. Without that, it's REALLY hard to take seriously and (because this is a 2A discussion forum) makes us all look like paranoid nutcases.

Nope, I read a email from a source that had said he by passed congress on this gun ban. Not many people know about this one!

Copy and paste the email. Or did you delete it already.  As others have said if its as serious as you say, everyone would know about it. All you posting in this thread is what you heard or to look something up. Show us some facts bro.

Ah, finally something tangible. The UN treaty.

Here's a news article about it: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

IMHO, this is the key quote to understanding what this treaty has to do with Joe Gunowner in the US:

"The shift in position by the world's biggest arms exporter is a major breakthrough in launching formal negotiations at the United Nations in order to prevent irresponsible arms transfers,"

Which is to say it has nothing to do with Joe Gunowner. The UN treaty isn't about curtailing gun "proliferation" in places like the U.S, it is for curtailing gun proliferation in places like Somalia. For the UN it is an issue of economics vs. civil unrest: rich countries get richer selling arms to poor countries in turmoil which then stay in turmoil and have less chance of climbing out of poverty. This is also frequently done to further the arms supplier's national interests and not necessarily for the benefit of the purchasing country.

There are parts of the world where getting a fully automatic AK is easier than getting clean water. The UN is not at all concerned about gun ownership in the U.S. where mandatory background checks and other controls are already in place. At least not at the level of this treaty.

Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, "this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty," although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement, not a "treaty" in the U.S. legal sense, and the agreement itself has never been ruled unconstitutional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert

Constitution trumps UN Treaty 

As stated, the UN treaty is for international trade of arms. But lets be for real here, you think the Somali pirate is going to be rocking a Larue OBR, or some Russian surplus AK / RPG to take over a ship? I doubt that Taliban fighters are buying mass amounts of Colt/DPMS/RockRiver AR's to fight our guys in Afghanistan. Sorry, just doesn't wash for me (just like all the guns in Mexico are from US dealers BS).

Ah, finally something tangible. The UN treaty.

Here's a news article about it: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

IMHO, this is the key quote to understanding what this treaty has to do with Joe Gunowner in the US:

"The shift in position by the world's biggest arms exporter is a major breakthrough in launching formal negotiations at the United Nations in order to prevent irresponsible arms transfers,"

Which is to say it has nothing to do with Joe Gunowner. The UN treaty isn't about curtailing gun "proliferation" in places like the U.S, it is for curtailing gun proliferation in places like Somalia. For the UN it is an issue of economics vs. civil unrest: rich countries get richer selling arms to poor countries in turmoil which then stay in turmoil and have less chance of climbing out of poverty. This is also frequently done to further the arms supplier's national interests and not necessarily for the benefit of the purchasing country.

There are parts of the world where getting a fully automatic AK is easier than getting clean water. The UN is not at all concerned about gun ownership in the U.S. where mandatory background checks and other controls are already in place. At least not at the level of this treaty.

i would like to disagree this can be used as yet another way to restrict the flow of firearms imports into our market and narrow our selection of firearms. just think about the amount of weapons we already can't buy because of the GCA and ridiculous ATF import regulations. I can only see this inflating current gun prices even higher and giving the already protected domestic gun makers an even bigger monopoly. If this is truly aimed at trying to curb weapons proliferation then what would stop countries from just using the illicit markets to move these weapons into the country of their choice?

as far as if they try to take away our guns by UN occupation i say good luck to that.

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Agreed, it probably would have the affect of raising prices here in the US - along with everywhere else. I doubt that it will have much more affect here than current import restrictions have, though, along with the other anti-gun idiocy. For the most part the scope of small arms transfers that the UN treaty talking about don't really apply to the US market. It is primarily aimed at making it more difficult for a) the major arms supplying countries to use the world's troubled spots as proxy battlefields and b) put some standards and teeth into international policing of black market arms dealing. At least as I understand it. The second one is what the arms dealing nations are interested in as it drives the market towards their (more) legitimate arms.

I doubt it will actually have much impact on illicit arms sales, though. Any more than the "war" on drugs has limited the flow of cash into the Mexican drug cartels so that they can afford arms sourced in the US.

Update... I turned my guns in today at the beretania station. The lady at the window looked puzzled when I handed them over. She was even more puzzled when I told her i was turning them in before they were confiscated by the government. I'm sure glad they are in a safe place.

Update... I turned my guns in today at the beretania station. The lady at the window looked puzzled when I handed them over. She was even more puzzled when I told her i was turning them in before they were confiscated by the government. I'm sure glad they are in a safe place.

They are on the way to the scrapper.  They load up all the weapons in a car that is going to be shredded and let her rip! Then they go thru the pieces to make sure that none of it can be used again.

Update... I turned my guns in today at the beretania station. The lady at the window looked puzzled when I handed them over. She was even more puzzled when I told her i was turning them in before they were confiscated by the government. I'm sure glad they are in a safe place.

How long did it take you?  I was hoping to go down there this afternoon and turn in my firearms before they close.

The line is pretty long, I hear.

Don't listen to them. Come, uncle help you out you can hide um in my safe. No worries, uncle take care..

Flying over to Oahu....

Heard Beretania Station is having a gun sale...