shit , another shooting naval air station penacola (Read 5987 times)

macsak

Heavies

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2019, 05:48:38 AM »
WTF!

oldfart

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2019, 06:19:22 AM »
I was telling my coworker last night that we could get copycat incidents as the publicity creeps into the psyche of mentally unstable people.
I'm considering installing a quick access box at my workplace.
What, Me Worry?

Platinum808

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2019, 06:40:48 AM »
I was telling my coworker last night that we could get copycat incidents as the publicity creeps into the psyche of mentally unstable people.
I'm considering installing a quick access box at my workplace.
I would if you think you need or at least have a ballistic vest or backpack
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oldfart

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 06:53:22 AM »
I would if you think you need or at least have a ballistic vest or backpack
....
That topic came up in our conversation.
 Coworker has a couple vests but I felt it would be unnecessary in our particular case.
What, Me Worry?

GlockNewb

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2019, 09:00:18 AM »
I was telling my coworker last night that we could get copycat incidents as the publicity creeps into the psyche of mentally unstable people.
I'm considering installing a quick access box at my workplace.

In 2018, a lot of podcasts/YouTube news sites I listened to took a no-name policy, I.e. not naming the shooter during coverage  because the infamy is exactly what they want. KSSK took a similar stance not soon thereafter.

Now I hear the Pearl Harbor shooter’s name on every other kssk report. Now this event?

“Correlation is not causation...”
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

macsak

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2019, 11:29:42 AM »
reports are saying it's a Saudi air force second lieutenant

changemyoil66

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2019, 12:52:41 PM »
In 2018, a lot of podcasts/YouTube news sites I listened to took a no-name policy, I.e. not naming the shooter during coverage  because the infamy is exactly what they want. KSSK took a similar stance not soon thereafter.

Now I hear the Pearl Harbor shooter’s name on every other kssk report. Now this event?

“Correlation is not causation...”

I think they did this one because it's local.  People want to know was it a local resident or not. That's my guess.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2019, 12:57:32 PM »
I was telling my coworker last night that we could get copycat incidents as the publicity creeps into the psyche of mentally unstable people.
I'm considering installing a quick access box at my workplace.

The problems with fast access storage solutions are (1) you would need to leave the firearm there all the time, since carrying it to/from the car & office comes with its own set of risks, (2) you never can predict where you'll be when SHTF -- possibly nowhere near the firearm, and (3) if someone reports you, you'll be fired, possibly arrested, if firearms are prohibited there.

I'm reminded of the psychiatrist who ignored the rules and kept a pistol in his briefcase.  He wound up shooting a patient after the patient shot and killed his social worker.  It's likely he saved more lives by prioritizing his safety over company policy.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

groveler

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2019, 01:19:22 PM »
reports are saying it's a Saudi air force second lieutenant
My bet is the Saudi was going to be "washed out".
Most military's don't treat you too well if you fail.
Ours included.
The shooter probably decided if he had to lose
he'd take some Kafirs with him.

changemyoil66

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2019, 02:18:39 PM »
The problems with fast access storage solutions are (1) you would need to leave the firearm there all the time, since carrying it to/from the car & office comes with its own set of risks, (2) you never can predict where you'll be when SHTF -- possibly nowhere near the firearm, and (3) if someone reports you, you'll be fired, possibly arrested, if firearms are prohibited there.

I'm reminded of the psychiatrist who ignored the rules and kept a pistol in his briefcase.  He wound up shooting a patient after the patient shot and killed his social worker.  It's likely he saved more lives by prioritizing his safety over company policy.

Your example is if SHTF, but what would be more common is someone finds out and you get fired and even arrested like you're option 3.  So gotta do the math of odds about needing the gun or getting fired and losing your freedom, possessions (unable to pay bills cause no job).  Or if you work in a super cool place, then everyone do the same that way no one rats on anyone.

I was sitting on the toilet twice last year when the power went out.  Didn't have my phone because it was charging at my desk.  After the 2nd outage, I bought  a flashlight Streamlight Protac IL-1AA.  Power went out a 3rd time, but I was washing my hands, but still inside the restroom.  So I'm guessing I will be on the toilet if SHTF in my office.  Prior to last year, the power never went out in 8 years.  This is also 1 of the reaons why I added a light on my carry pistol. I asked my friend who works at the hotel we stay at in Vegas how often the power goes out.  He says a few times a year.

macsak

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2019, 02:35:18 PM »
My bet is the Saudi was going to be "washed out".
Most military's don't treat you too well if you fail.
Ours included.
The shooter probably decided if he had to lose
he'd take some Kafirs with him.

hard to say that he was going to wash out
why would you send someone that was going to wash out to train at one of the premier air bases of your biggest ally?
I understand that even in the Saudi air force there are elites/royals that are probably given preferential treatment, but you wouldn't send a scrub to practice with the A-Team even if they were previeged

WTF?Shane

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2019, 02:44:45 PM »
hard to say that he was going to wash out
why would you send someone that was going to wash out to train at one of the premier air bases of your biggest ally?
I understand that even in the Saudi air force there are elites/royals that are probably given preferential treatment, but you wouldn't send a scrub to practice with the A-Team even if they were previeged

What if this guy was an 'elite' and just couldn't make the cut to the US Navy standards?

I'm thinking the guy is a terry.

TooFewPews

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2019, 03:03:29 PM »
I was sitting on the toilet twice last year when the power went out.  Didn't have my phone because it was charging at my desk.  After the 2nd outage, I bought  a flashlight Streamlight Protac IL-1AA.  Power went out a 3rd time, but I was washing my hands, but still inside the restroom.  So I'm guessing I will be on the toilet if SHTF in my office.  Prior to last year, the power never went out in 8 years.  This is also 1 of the reaons why I added a light on my carry pistol. I asked my friend who works at the hotel we stay at in Vegas how often the power goes out.  He says a few times a year.

do you sit down when you pee?

Boomah

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2019, 08:14:17 AM »
My bet is the Saudi was going to be "washed out".
Most military's don't treat you too well if you fail.
Ours included.
The shooter probably decided if he had to lose
he'd take some Kafirs with him.

Sadly most UPT students from that particular country are part of, or in someway related to the royal family and don't wash out. Instead they get recycled (often, in some cases) until they're "good to go". The stories I've heard from several IPs are pretty crazy.

Boomah :shaka:

changemyoil66

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2019, 09:54:44 AM »
do you sit down when you pee?
Its called a tactical pee. Im facing potential attackers, if get earth quake, im not pissing on my leg, and it feels better sitting.

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robtmc

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2019, 03:49:44 PM »
Great snicker at the Assorted Prostitutes "news" articles being picked up all over about the shooting.

Totally blacking out the very possible muzzie sudden jihad angle.

mrgaf

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2019, 11:39:04 AM »
Foxnews:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pensacola-naval-instructor-porn-stash


Guess he was sampling the “virgins” before his time..... :wacko:
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changemyoil66

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2019, 12:50:44 PM »
FBI says handgun bought was done legally from a gun store.  Something about a non-immigrant hunting license.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: shit , another shooting naval air station penacola
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2019, 02:08:15 PM »
FBI says handgun bought was done legally from a gun store.  Something about a non-immigrant hunting license.

They already have someone making the comment on the news that we need to review why 2A, a right that's afforded to American citizens, is being applied to foreign nationals on US soil, too.

Funny.  I guess we can invade their homes, search their vehicles and lock them up without probable cause since rights are supposedly reserved for citizens.   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw