I would think the "go home safe at the end of your shift" is the prime policy of most cops.

"...they need to be held more accountable for bad decisions and "abuse of their powers under color of law"....Instead they act like thugs that have unlimited powers to control you....

You're talking "cover", not ”shield”.
It seems like semantics...

That all depends on how you classify "dangerous".

Most of the "Most Dangerous Jobs" lists use accidental deaths as the #1 factor.  They look at number of injuries and number of fatal injuries, all on an annual as well as per capita basis.

Loggers are #1 for fatalities.  Police rank #14 from one list of the top 25 I found. 

Everyone else new what hvybarrels was talking about.

Hvybarrels. You should change the title to “using civilians as human cover”.
Sounds even worse.

Did you see the cops follow the vehicle that was trying to push forward.
Using a civilian occupied vehicle as if it were a SSD armored vehicle while drawing and returning fire.

Sh!+ is nuts.
I hope there’s no training that says to do that.

As it should be.  Police are not even in the top ten of the most dangerous jobs in
America.  Having said that they need to be held more accountable for
bad decisions and "abuse of their powers under color of law".
A cop should be afraid to approach and disrupt a citizen, every citizen.
Instead they act like thugs that have unlimited powers to control
you.  That is not "protect and serve" that is intimidate and harass.
Tried to get a Concealed Carry license lately?

Cops are risking their lives with no control over the types of people they encounter,

Cops are risking their lives with no control over the types of people they encounter, while the loggers are battling physics and the possibility of overlooking proper safety precautions.

So whats the #1 occupation killed intentinally? Bounty hunters?

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As are we, but we are not allowed to defend outselves like Hawaii cops.

Cops aren't given a choice.

If law enforcement officers are not willing to hold themselves to the highest standards knowing they could be killed in the line of duty as loggers or Alaskan fisherman, then they should resign and find a personally safer line of work.

"Right, but Cops are called to places where bad things happen or are in the process of happening. Different than you and me.  For us, either we're unlucky or make bad decisions placing us in bad situations.  Cops aren't given a choice."

So what's your point?

Are we to expect that since they are doing us a favor, we must accept any reckless or irresponsible actions they take in bad situations?



"Someone on this thread seems to believe Cops must expect to die, or they can find another job.  Most Cops go their entire career without ever needing to draw their weapon on a suspect.  He seems to think all Cops are exactly the same and should be treated as expendable."

If you are referring to that OHA-hating guy, I think you are right.

However, I think he believes that law enforcement officers are not expected to die, but be ready to sacrifice their lives every day in the line of duty; BIG DIFFERENCE.



"Cops aren't perfect, but they deserve respect for putting on the uniform and dealing with some of the lowest lifeforms in society day in and day out."

Who said they should not be given all due respect?



"I'd like the people bashing the Cops to try joining the force and doing the job for a few years just to see what they have to deal with.  I doubt he'd graduate academy training."

Your statement still does not nullify the higher standards police/sheriffs need to be held accountable as demanded by the community.

What kind of cops would happily kick in doors for unconstitutional gun confiscation? This kind right here.

https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1202961963137093632

As it should be.  Police are not even in the top ten of the most dangerous jobs in
America.  Having said that they need to be held more accountable for
bad decisions and "abuse of their powers under color of law".
A cop should be afraid to approach and disrupt a citizen, every citizen.
Instead they act like thugs that have unlimited powers to control
you.  That is not "protect and serve" that is intimidate and harass.
Tried to get a Concealed Carry license lately?

I don't count using occupied vehicles for cover as "human shields." 

That's a hyperbolic description.  The Cops were not using the occupants as shields.

I suspect that when bullets are flying at you, you probably find any cover you can without having the ability to give it much thought. Never been shot at though so just a guess.

I suspect that when bullets are flying at you, you probably find any cover you can without having the ability to give it much thought. Never been shot at though so just a guess.

100% correct because i am unarmed.

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