The mainstream media should never be trusted in any reports that discusses potential war with any country America's war hawks deems to be an enemy.  In the runup to the War in Iraq in 2003 under Bush, the invasion of Libya and Syria under the Obama, and the potential war with Iran today, has any of the mainstream media SERIOUSLY made an any effort to critically analyze both sides of the issue and/or try to give any pause to such madness?

Many people in the US and the international community did speak out against all of the previous military actions by the US citing the costs and de-stability it would cause.  Unfortunately, those who were against were right in the end and the imperialist were wrong.

I will chime in after all this reading.  Now I don't know much about the middle east going far back.

But I do think that our troops should stay out of other peoples business, unless attacked directly or asked for help from allies.  But in the Gulf War, Kuwait asked for our help when Iraq invaded them right?  Stop the invasion and leave.

Sadaam using gas on his people, that's a job for the UN, not the US being the main force.  If the UN got more involved, we should send an equal amount of forces as everyone else who contributes.  Not be majority of the force.

But since we are there, we need to respond and save face.  A perfect exit from Iraq would be to leave after we got Sadaam.  Another good exit from A-Stan would be after we got Bin Laden, give AQ the ultimatum.  We got your boss who planned the 911 attacks.  It's over. But if you guys wanna continue, then we will stay and keep up the fight until you're destroyed.  We will pull out as long as you guys don't start some stuff to US citizens or US soil.

It's not our problem if terrorism grows in the middle east.  It's the whole chicken before the egg theory.  Had we not been there at all, would be be a target to them?  When was the last time AQ attacked soil of Taiwan, Japan, China?  All those countries who really have no troops there or anywhere in the middle east.  But they target US because we're there.  We are there because they target us.

Now there probably is lots of classified intel that I don't know, so again my thinking is just my own.  I don't like seeing our troops die or injured many miles away that doesn't really affect us here at all.

War is very profitable for the controlling powers.

What?!?  There you go again only viewing things with your fine/narrow lens.  My point was noting the usually VERY bias Inskeep and Martin on NPR.  Nothing about trusting MSM.  Nothing about war hawks.  Nothing about imperialism. . . sheesh. . .

Here's a clue about Middle East tensions.

The entire Arab nation in the Middle East HATES (literally HATES) Israel.  They want Israel "pushed into the sea".  Google it.

The US sides with Israel openly with military, economic and political support.  it's logical that we support the lone home of democratic government in the ME. 

That fact alone is why Iran and others call us "The Great Satan" and Israel "Little Satan".  Nothing else we've done matters.  Having our military in the region doesn't help, but leaving would not help at all as well.  Damned if we do -- damned if we don't.  Short of electing a Muslim US President and severing all ties and support of Israel, the US will never be anything other than hated by Islamic countries.

So had we not sided with Israel, would we be where we are today?

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I will chime in after all this reading.  Now I don't know much about the middle east going far back.

But I do think that our troops should stay out of other peoples business, unless attacked directly or asked for help from allies.  But in the Gulf War, Kuwait asked for our help when Iraq invaded them right?  Stop the invasion and leave.

Sadaam using gas on his people, that's a job for the UN, not the US being the main force.  If the UN got more involved, we should send an equal amount of forces as everyone else who contributes.  Not be majority of the force.

But since we are there, we need to respond and save face.  A perfect exit from Iraq would be to leave after we got Sadaam.  Another good exit from A-Stan would be after we got Bin Laden, give AQ the ultimatum.  We got your boss who planned the 911 attacks.  It's over. But if you guys wanna continue, then we will stay and keep up the fight until you're destroyed.  We will pull out as long as you guys don't start some stuff to US citizens or US soil.

It's not our problem if terrorism grows in the middle east.  It's the whole chicken before the egg theory.  Had we not been there at all, would be be a target to them?  When was the last time AQ attacked soil of Taiwan, Japan, China?  All those countries who really have no troops there or anywhere in the middle east.  But they target US because we're there.  We are there because they target us.

Now there probably is lots of classified intel that I don't know, so again my thinking is just my own.  I don't like seeing our troops die or injured many miles away that doesn't really affect us here at all.

War is very profitable for the controlling powers.

Outstanding down to Earth analysis.   

Great question; why does not ISIS and Al -Qaeda conduct terrorist attacks in Eastern Asia?  China, Japan, and South Korea trade for a lot of oil in the Middle East and they are infidels on top of that; yet it seems like ISIS nor Al-Qaeda are not that interested in conducting Jihad with them as they are with the US.

The US sides with Israel openly with military, economic and political support.  it's logical that we support the lone home of democratic government in the ME. 

So had we not sided with Israel, would we be where we are today?

Outstanding down to Earth analysis.   

Great question; why does not ISIS and Al -Qaeda conduct terrorist attacks in Eastern Asia?  China, Japan, and South Korea trade for a lot of oil in the Middle East and they are infidels on top of that; yet it seems like ISIS nor Al-Qaeda are not that interested in conducting Jihad with them as they are with the US.

The Middle East, as a whole, would have been a much friendlier place for Americans for sure.  Not supporting Israel to the extent the US does today would have made negotiating true peace in the region much easier.  Financially, the US would have much more money, since it would not have to garrison the Middle East and give monetary aid to America's so-called allies in the Middle East, as it does now.

I do not see how America would not be better off.

Personally, I think the Middle East would still be a hell hole.  Regardless of Israel.  There's so much division, hate, whatever going back too many generations.  Similar to why I don't see peace in Africa any time soon.

You not that old, I know you don't need bold to read the text. . .