Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee? (Read 76459 times)

Inspector

Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« on: January 11, 2020, 09:08:36 AM »
I thought it might be interesting this early in the contest to try and guess or deduct who the Democrat nominee is going to be to run against Trump.

Some new facts for the primaries:
“Under the new rules for 2020, superdelegates will still be automatic delegates to the convention. But they will not have a vote on the first presidential ballot if the convention remains contested, which is a distinct possibility given the number of Democrats considering running.

Superdelegates would get to vote on any subsequent rounds of voting, though the Democratic nomination has been settled on the first ballot of every convention since the 1970s, when the modern system of primaries and caucuses was established.”

Current candidates in alphabetical order by last name:
Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren

There are more but I didn’t put their names in as I figured they won’t be in the race for long.

So the superdelegates will only be in play if a clear candidate is not nominated in the first round of voting. Which is far different from the 2016 nominations. I think that if they cannot vote a clear nominee in the first round then Joe Biden becomes the nominee as I think the super delegates will back him.

However, if a clear candidate is nominated in the first round of voting and the superdelegates are not voting then I think it will be Bernie Sanders over Joe Biden. Here are my thoughts. I’m thinking that by the time we get close to the nominations, we will be down to 2 maybe 3 candidates. The top three in my order is Joe Biden then Bernie Sanders then Elizabeth Warren. But I think Warren will bow out near the end. And with the new DNC rules I figure all of Warren’s delegates are going to support Bernie and that will be enough for Bernie to win the nomination over Biden.

There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

groveler

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 10:04:38 AM »
I thought it might be interesting this early in the contest to try and guess or deduct who the Democrat nominee is going to be to run against Trump.

Some new facts for the primaries:
“Under the new rules for 2020, superdelegates will still be automatic delegates to the convention. But they will not have a vote on the first presidential ballot if the convention remains contested, which is a distinct possibility given the number of Democrats considering running.

Superdelegates would get to vote on any subsequent rounds of voting, though the Democratic nomination has been settled on the first ballot of every convention since the 1970s, when the modern system of primaries and caucuses was established.”

Current candidates in alphabetical order by last name:
Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren

There are more but I didn’t put their names in as I figured they won’t be in the race for long.

So the superdelegates will only be in play if a clear candidate is not nominated in the first round of voting. Which is far different from the 2016 nominations. I think that if they cannot vote a clear nominee in the first round then Joe Biden becomes the nominee as I think the super delegates will back him.

However, if a clear candidate is nominated in the first round of voting and the superdelegates are not voting then I think it will be Bernie Sanders over Joe Biden. Here are my thoughts. I’m thinking that by the time we get close to the nominations, we will be down to 2 maybe 3 candidates. The top three in my order is Joe Biden then Bernie Sanders then Elizabeth Warren. But I think Warren will bow out near the end. And with the new DNC rules I figure all of Warren’s delegates are going to support Bernie and that will be enough for Bernie to win the nomination over Biden.

There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...
You forgot Bloomberg, the DINO or RINO, whatever suits
his need to be elected.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democrat voter.
Bloomberg can literally buy the nomination and he will.
He can spend twice, three times what others have and
not even dent his lifestyle.

oldfart

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 10:21:31 AM »
The Dems grabbed a handfull of darts and are throwing them all at the White House to see if any stick. :rofl:
What, Me Worry?

drck1000

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 10:33:13 AM »

There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...

Here here! 😝

My thoughts?
- Anybody but Fakeawarha
- I like Klobuchar out of them all if I had to choose one for my personably views/opinions
- 💩 on Biden
- Bernie scares me in many ways

aieahound

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 10:44:46 AM »
I think Crazy Joe Biden.

But I want Bernie just for the Debates and SNL skits.

Watching a debate between Trump and Bernie will amusing. (2 real life SNL characters going at it)
Watching a debate between Trump and Crazy Joe will be some shit slinging, knock down drag outs.
(My opinion)

RSN172

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
Bloomberg and Steyer are both rising in the polls.  Bloomberg with a net worth of $54B is a dangerous contender.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 11:46:05 AM »
The nominee will be one of the current establishment members:

Biden
Warren
Sanders

I think Bernie might be in a tight race with Biden.

Bernie is recovering from a heart attack and was screwed over by Clinton and the DNC in 2016.  There may be a "sympathy nomination" waiting for him.  If the party agrees none of the candidates has a good chance of beating Trump, it costs them nothing to nominate Bernie as some sort of gesture.

Biden, the man who's actually crazy, appears the least crazy by comparison.  He's the DNC favorite, I think, just from an electability viewpoint.

Warren's popularity is slipping, since there's really no difference between her positions and Bernie's.  She has been caught lying the last few months many times, which means she's saying whatever she thinks she needs to say to win.  Bernie actually believes the crazy policies he's proposing.  If it's between these two, Bernie wins.

Biden has to survive the Hunter situation.  Right now the IRS is looking into Hunter's finances and says he failed to pay about $160K of taxes owed.  The baby mama is suing Hunter for support, and her lawyer is digging up Hunter's income records, too. If Hunter was breaking the law and involved in money laundering as some are saying, I can't see how Biden survives.

Between the 3, Biden has the best chance of being nominated -- if the Hunter situation doesn't bring him down.  Timing is the key.

So, my pick AT THIS POINT IN TIME is Biden.

Of the top 3, none can beat Trump.  Therefore, whoever they nominate will be Trump's punching bag for months.  Can't wait for the show!!   :rofl:   :thumbsup:   :popcorn:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2020, 05:08:47 PM »
I think it'll be Biden or Warren
Either of whom Trump will win

zippz

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2020, 05:10:15 PM »
Bloomberg may take votes away from Biden leaving Sanders as the nominee.

Hopefully a lot of democrats will abstain in the general election.

hvybarrels

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2020, 08:23:43 PM »
Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.
How much fire can a ceasefire cease if a ceasefire never ceased fire?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2020, 09:45:24 PM »
Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.

I'm still wondering why Donald "Orange Man" Trump isn't being given the same MSM protection as Obama.

Doesn't "orange" qualify him as "a person of color?" 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2020, 11:47:31 PM »
What difference does it make who the nominee is?
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drck1000

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2020, 12:06:14 AM »
What difference does it make who the nominee is?
🤦🏻‍♂️

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2020, 05:33:22 AM »
What difference does it make who the nominee is?
It doesn’t make a difference. That’s not the point of this post. This is supposed to be a lighthearted and fun thread discussing and trying to predict the future.  :stopjack:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2020, 05:40:48 AM »
Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.
I completely agree except I don’t think Tulsi is progressive (read socialist) enough for Bernie. I don’t think Biden challenging Trump to a push-up contest or threatening to punch him in the face is a good rebuttal to Trumps policies. And Warren can’t get out from underneath being Pocahontas all of her life. While Biden and Warren being nothing more than shark bait for Trump would be fun to watch in a debate, I think Bernie’s misguided sincerity will come thru. But he still doesn’t stand a chance IMHO.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2020, 05:42:19 AM »
I'm still wondering why Donald "Orange Man" Trump isn't being given the same MSM protection as Obama.

Doesn't "orange" qualify him as "a person of color?"
Orange is the new black, right?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2020, 06:13:41 AM »
Watching Varney this morning and they were discussing this subject as the next debate is tomorrow. They made a statement that sort of backs up my premise that Bernie is going to be the nominee (At least in his mind  :rofl:). First, they were saying that Bernie’s campaign is starting to turn on Warren as they see Warren as the real threat, not Biden. But the big take away from their remarks is that if you combine support for Bernie and Warren together it far outpaces the support for Biden. If Warren stays in until the end, the nominee will be Biden. But if she drops anytime before the end, her delegates will probably switch their support to Bernie giving him the win.

In another statement this morning, Bloomberg was quoted as saying he will spend as much as a $1B dollars if he has to to defeat Trump. Personally, I don’t think he has the support. And I believe he will only pull his support from Biden supporters and other moderates. Which seems the moderates are no longer the majority in the Democrat party. If support for Warren and Bernie are any indication that the Progressive Left is in the majority of the party, then we will see Bernie like candidates more and more as Democrats.

As I am typing this Cory Booker just dropped out of the race. Sad.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2020, 11:03:45 AM »
In the last few days, the Democrat Presidential field lost a few candidates:

1.  Julian Castro (he's backing Warren on her campaign trail now)

2.  Marianne Williamson (surprised that Conservatives treated her better than Liberals)

3.  Sen. Cory "Spartacus" Booker

People dropping out before the first primary states vote in February.  At least these candidates are able to say they ran in the year 2020.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2020, 04:41:43 PM »
In the last few days, the Democrat Presidential field lost a few candidates:

1.  Julian Castro (he's backing Warren on her campaign trail now)

2.  Marianne Williamson (surprised that Conservatives treated her better than Liberals)

3.  Sen. Cory "Spartacus" Booker

People dropping out before the first primary states vote in February.  At least these candidates are able to say they ran in the year 2020.   :rofl:
It’s too bad I can’t stomach the democrat debates. I tried, I really really tried but I found myself yelling at the TV. I wonder how different the debates would be if Bloomberg was participating? I imagine he would pull support away from Biden and little if any from Warren/Bernie. I just don’t see him as a serious contender here.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2020, 06:05:02 PM »
It’s too bad I can’t stomach the democrat debates. I tried, I really really tried but I found myself yelling at the TV. I wonder how different the debates would be if Bloomberg was participating? I imagine he would pull support away from Biden and little if any from Warren/Bernie. I just don’t see him as a serious contender here.

It'll be interesting after tomorrow night to see where the supporters of the drop-outs flock.  I have a feeling the voters who like Castro, Booker and Williamson will lean toward Bernie.  I can't see someone supporting them switching to Biden.

BTW, if Bernie is the nominee, and he picks Biden as his VP running mate, their merged names will be:

BERDEN
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw