For what it’s worth

"Hard to tell, Republicans have never been in charge for over 60 years."


Seeing how the Republican Party had government control of Hawaii for the first 61 YEARS after the illegal annexation by the US in 1898, the non-White population got more than enough history and evidence of racism to FOREVER not allow the Republicans to see the light of day in Hawaii again.

Once again, there is no evidence to believe that Republican leadership today would be any different to the non-White people, as they operated prior to 1959.




"Your nonsense remark, confirms, in my mind, that even with all your educational creds, book smart does not equal common sense."


Pretty presumptuous remark for someone that does not know me very well.

In that case, what is you academic background that you see fit to make personal judgements of my character?

They do not seem to be treating them better in the context of this conversation. At least Democrats pretend to care before they bulldoze your house or bomb your wedding. More importantly they also tend to bring home the bacon when it comes to welfare money, which really comes in handy when someone steals your land and you have nowhere to go and do not feel like joining the Asians on the slave labor plantation.

WELL SAID!

At least there is one person with OBJECTIVITY, who understands history and context, unlike those who make derogatory comments about how Hawaiians must be the most ill-informed people in their support for the Democratic party.

What era are you using for context?

Seems to me, the Democrats that RUN THE STATE treat EVERYBODY, including Hawaiians, like plantation workers.

If you're not on the inside, you're just a resource to be taxed.  It's your job as a serf to serve the state.  The state serves no one that's not in power.

People can pretend this is a federal political party problem, but the feds treat the state today much better than the state office holders do.

I've lived in quite a few states, and the gov't here is the worst of them all.  First time I've had to pay for a multi-billion-dollar rail project I'll never use which won't solve a single issue with traffic.



https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/2017/06/honolulu-rail-project-most-expensive-in-the-world/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAmZDxBRDIARIsABnkbYT45eikxCsN_FwD7jFKOuIC8JE87HGTbFGfpalkvQRxIlgkSKYbRLoaAhJNEALw_wcB

As said before, is there any evidence to believe that Republican leadership will be better, OUTSIDE of 2nd Amendment issues?

Furthermore, what is truly interesting about all those on this forum who complain about the Democratic monopoly on power, Hawaiians, local people, as well as the local culture of how we do things here, NO ONE is making you stay.  You have the right to leave ANYTIME you want.

As said before, is there any evidence to believe that Republican leadership will be better, OUTSIDE of 2nd Amendment issues?

Furthermore, what is truly interesting about all those on this forum who complain about the Democratic monopoly on power, Hawaiians, local people, as well as the local culture of how we do things here, NO ONE is making you stay.  You have the right to leave ANYTIME you want.

You love to argue over hypotheticals and opinions no one, including you, can prove or disprove, since history can't be relived.

I'm not going to follow your off-topic #DISTRESSED!!! hijacking of yet ANOTHER thread.



 

Roger that.  A good ass kissing, and then some table scraps are good enough...  SMFH

yep back to topic

Antifa will be there. Should be interesting because they have a history of violence.

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The topics are kind of related. The pro 2a lobby has a hell of a public relations problem. People do not understand that for many urbanites living in the Starbucks bubble it is horrifying to see hundreds of people marching down the street in full kit. Likewise it is not too clear why someone would expect Hawaiian Sovereignty advocates to immediately jump on the Republican bandwagon even though the only one on this site (who actually seems pretty reasonable) is the target of regular dog-piles and belittling memes.

The topics are kind of related. The pro 2a lobby has a hell of a public relations problem. People do not understand that for many urbanites living in the Starbucks bubble it is horrifying to see hundreds of people marching down the street in full kit. Likewise it is not too clear why someone would expect Hawaiian Sovereignty advocates to immediately jump on the Republican bandwagon even though the only one on this site (who actually seems pretty reasonable) is the target of regular dog-piles and belittling memes.

The problem lies in the fact that every topic becomes a rehashing of why the US is bad and Hawaiian rule would be so much better now.

It gets really old.

The topics are kind of related. The pro 2a lobby has a hell of a public relations problem. People do not understand that for many urbanites living in the Starbucks bubble it is horrifying to see hundreds of people marching down the street in full kit. Likewise it is not too clear why someone would expect Hawaiian Sovereignty advocates to immediately jump on the Republican bandwagon even though the only one on this site (who actually seems pretty reasonable) is the target of regular dog-piles and belittling memes.

You provided a very thoughtful and careful analysis of the situation.

It is amazing to see how the group-think phenomenon works in this forum.  You would hope that supporters of the 2nd Amendment would try to mediate any differences and get more people living in Hawaii on their side.  But alas, that is not the case.  It is very clear in this forum that if a member does not adhere to the group-think consensus in any issue, that person is personally attacked and demonized.

I have personally talked with many firearms vendors on this island and many have shared their reasons why they don't like actively posting on this forum.  Sadly, many of their reasons are very consistent.  In the words of an established FFL dealer that I do business, "there are just too many single minded/issue clickish people on Hawaii 2a who dominate forum discussions, which dissuades many from being active participants in community events".

There are good people on this forum.  However, it should be no surprise when very good organizers like Zipps can't get the turnouts he tireless works for, when it is the actions of only a few people in the sole 2a forum based in the isles that rudely turns would-be local-born supporters away.

The problem lies in the fact that every topic becomes a rehashing of why the US is bad and Hawaiian rule would be so much better now.

It gets really old.

The constant bashing, hatred, and wishing nuclear destruction to the majority of locals and/or Hawaiians who at this moment in time in favor of Democrats ALSO gets rather old too.

The constant bashing, hatred, and wishing nuclear destruction to the majority of locals and/or Hawaiians who at this moment in time in favor of Democrats ALSO gets rather old too.

Quit making shit up.

 

Quit making shit up.

 

Quit lying; you are two-faced Republican supporter who is also an Obama admirer; your words remember.

 

Some live streams

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/20/watch-live-pro-2a-americans-come-to-virginia-to-rally-for-gun-rights/

A video of the crowd
https://mobile.twitter.com/realmattcouch/status/1219291383296598018?s=21

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/OFFICIAL-VA-Second-Amendment-Rally-Streaming-Thread/5-2288938/&page=22

Quit lying; you are two-faced Republican supporter who is also an Obama admirer; your words remember.

 

        

Have seen many reports of large crowds and largely peaceful. They were able to mobilize folks from many states to Richmond. 

1 guy with 50cal slung. Always get that 1 guy.

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1 guy with 50cal slung. Always get that 1 guy.

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great for home defense...as if a whole house got legs and is attacking you or attacked by a Decepticon, Terminator 800 ?