Who watched? Your reactions?

I watched most. I thought it was more neutral than in past speeches. Obvious that he’s softened and speaking to different (even targeted) groups. Don’t really care for the “look who is here tonight”, but he did tie them into relevant messages and it’s something that past Presidents had been doing more and more.

Things that stuck with me:
1) Pelosi’s actions. Regardless of who you support or are against, her actions here super disrespectful on so many levels and many instances. How people were paying attention to her and her fellow “white coats”. Many comments on HNN roasting her, which is surprising.

2) No matter if Trump does things that Dems have pushed or supported in the past, they’ll fight him in it.

3) Tlaib and Omar need to go...

All 435 Reps are up for re-election. 
I would love to see Nancy's reaction if Republicans won a super majority.  I watched it and laughed at the reactions of the Dems at parts of Trump's speech.

All 435 Reps are up for re-election. 
I would love to see Nancy's reaction if Republicans won a super majority.  I watched it and laughed at the reactions of the Dems at parts of Trump's speech.

Something is seriously off/wrong with her.  At times, acting like a petulant child.  Other times, the overbearing mother to her band of "white coats".  Other times, as if she's completely spacing.

I mean I get when the Speaker is at odd with the President.  I haven't paid that close attention to all of the SOTU, but I don't recall that outward disdain to be put on display like that.  To me, it shows how much pressure she's under and frustration that things aren't going well. 

#PelosiTantrum 

I saw one of the parkland fathers got removed for interrupting the address
he is being praised by the left
when the congressman said "you lie" during Obama's address, it was disrespectful...

Who watched? Your reactions?

I watched most. I thought it was more neutral than in past speeches. Obvious that he’s softened and speaking to different (even targeted) groups. Don’t really care for the “look who is here tonight”, but he did tie them into relevant messages and it’s something that past Presidents had been doing more and more.

Things that stuck with me:
1) Pelosi’s actions. Regardless of who you support or are against, her actions here super disrespectful on so many levels and many instances. How people were paying attention to her and her fellow “white coats”. Many comments on HNN roasting her, which is surprising.

2) No matter if Trump does things that Dems have pushed or supported in the past, they’ll fight him in it.

3) Tlaib and Omar need to go...

some of us outgrow tantrums but I guess as we age its a vicious circle of life as we return to an adolescent stage - Pelosi is there. SHe should recuse herself and go into adult daycare. I think she should red flag herself too. That was an act of violence.

I watched as much as I could. It was just more of his rally speeches. It's okay. My takeoffs:

1. Pelosi did not announce Trump in the traditional way. Shows disrespect
2. Trump turned away without shaking Pelosi's outstretched hand
3. Pelosi talked all throughout the speech. When asked this morning what she was saying, Pence said he didn't know. He wasn't paying attention to her
4. Baby Pelosi ripped up her copy of the speech

There was nothing wrong with the speech. Trump did not attack the Dems which I think is appropriate for the SOTU speech. He showed some class tonight and Pelosi with most of the white coats did not.

 To be honest, Trumps snub of Pelosi's handshake is taken out of proportion.  He quickly turned away after giving her his speech.  So he may not have saw it.  But I'm sure he planned it that way.  Compared to looking at her and down at her hand, then turning away.

Pelosi tearing up the speech in front of the cameras is classless, but  I don't expect any less, so it's all G.  Kind of like how she tears up the constitution. 

TBH, I think it's unneeded to stand up every few minutes and clap.  It also looks bad when only 1 side stands up and claps.  Did they do the same when Barry was president?  GOP sat, while DNC stood up?

I watched as much as I could. It was just more of his rally speeches. It's okay. My takeoffs:

1. Pelosi did not announce Trump in the traditional way. Shows disrespect
2. Trump turned away without shaking Pelosi's outstretched hand
3. Pelosi talked all throughout the speech. When asked this morning what she was saying, Pence said he didn't know. He wasn't paying attention to her
4. Baby Pelosi ripped up her copy of the speech

There was nothing wrong with the speech. Trump did not attack the Dems which I think is appropriate for the SOTU speech. He showed some class tonight and Pelosi with most of the white coats did not.

2. Missed that part, but I can see it both ways.  As an intended snub and simple oversight as Trump has already turned.
3. She was muttering to herself many times.  One of the main reactions that stuck with me was her shoulder shrugs on a couple of points that I would've thought would be supported by both sides.  She wasn't paying attention a lot of times, sort of like a teenager in a restaurant with her parents playing on her phone.  A further indicator that no matter that Trump had to say, she was against it. . .
4. I was shocked that she did that.  While I'm not all "she should be censured" level, something that should be noted.  Sadly, I think many TDS'ers will continue to praise her for it.   

2. Missed that part, but I can see it both ways.  As an intended snub and simple oversight as Trump has already turned.
3. She was muttering to herself many times.  One of the main reactions that stuck with me was her shoulder shrugs on a couple of points that I would've thought would be supported by both sides.  She wasn't paying attention a lot of times, sort of like a teenager in a restaurant with her parents playing on her phone.  A further indicator that no matter that Trump had to say, she was against it. . .
4. I was shocked that she did that.  While I'm not all "she should be censured" level, something that should be noted.  Sadly, I think many TDS'ers will continue to praise her for it.

I just get perturbed and annoyed at the pettiness of her actions. To me it is more business as usual for her and the Dems.

I just get perturbed and annoyed at the pettiness of her actions. To me it is more business as usual for her and the Dems.

True.  I just don't see how people don't see her as unstable at best.  Even on HNN, Hirono was getting roasted for her comments on Pelosi's actions.  I have been seeing more and more comments against Hirono and Schatz for a while now and hope that continues and is reflected in the polls, eventually.  Not holding my breath. . .

I watched as much as I could. It was just more of his rally speeches. It's okay. My takeoffs:

1. Pelosi did not announce Trump in the traditional way. Shows disrespect
2. Trump turned away without shaking Pelosi's outstretched hand
3. Pelosi talked all throughout the speech. When asked this morning what she was saying, Pence said he didn't know. He wasn't paying attention to her
4. Baby Pelosi ripped up her copy of the speech

There was nothing wrong with the speech. Trump did not attack the Dems which I think is appropriate for the SOTU speech. He showed some class tonight and Pelosi with most of the white coats did not.

I watched on CSPAN to get around pundits plus I don't get regular TV reception here, I'm
all Satellite for TV, internet, and radio.
#1 is correct.
#2 Normally he'd shake the VP's and and then the Speakers hand Trump did neither.
#3 I've been learning to lip read because years of aircraft flight lines and shooting without hearing protection
have taken their toll on my hearing.  She mumbled Fbombs a few times( it wasn't "Vacuum" which looks the same).
#4 That "fit" of hers is actually a violation of Federal law.  That was an official Federal document.  But like most all
Democrat party members nothing will come of it.
I'll add a note, they focused on Crazy Mazie a few times.  Perfect representative for Hawaii, an out of control nutcase.
I couldn't keep up with the lip reading but, we should be afraid, very afraid of our representatives. 

Good old Nancy

Completely preplanned

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7970209/It-felt-like-Mike-Pence-accuses-Nancy-Pelosi-planning-rip-speech.html?fbclid=IwAR2Y-OjLcsETQjE8PEnGTUd0Bzk7KIXFgqmghyhh13iiGfn6Ea8FAvhQnB4

To be honest, Trumps snub of Pelosi's handshake is taken out of proportion.  He quickly turned away after giving her his speech.  So he may not have saw it.  But I'm sure he planned it that way.  Compared to looking at her and down at her hand, then turning away.

Maybe Trump didn't want to dignify Pelosi's behavior from his last SOTU address?

Next year, the copy of Trump's SOTU address handed to Speaker Pelosi (assuming she's still in that job) should be made of Revlar or some other indestructable "paper".

 

** He should be sure Pence has a fire extinguisher handy, though.      

Good old Nancy

Completely preplanned

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7970209/It-felt-like-Mike-Pence-accuses-Nancy-Pelosi-planning-rip-speech.html?fbclid=IwAR2Y-OjLcsETQjE8PEnGTUd0Bzk7KIXFgqmghyhh13iiGfn6Ea8FAvhQnB4

Interesting.  With each side hawking on things the other side does, I'm not surprised.  I was more expecting coverage to show more reactions of others in the room, which it did.  Catching some practically falling asleep. 

When I watched the #PelosiTantrum live, it did seem "off".  Like she was confused and seemed like she was looking for how to rip the paper, but not this make sense if there were "pre-tears".  She can't even tear paper without it. . . :facepalm: 

Next year, the copy of Trump's SOTU address handed to Speaker Pelosi (assuming she's still in that job) should be made of Revlar or some other indestructable "paper"

Your fish eye guy is notably absent from the merriment here.

Waiting for instructions how to respond to this?

Your fish eye guy is notably absent from the merriment here.

Waiting for instructions how to respond to this?

Undoubtedly he's cruising the forums frequented by Liberals and Socialists to get their take on things.

You know .... for "objectivity."

Interesting.  With each side hawking on things the other side does, I'm not surprised.  I was more expecting coverage to show more reactions of others in the room, which it did.  Catching some practically falling asleep. 

When I watched the #PelosiTantrum live, it did seem "off".  Like she was confused and seemed like she was looking for how to rip the paper, but not this make sense if there were "pre-tears".  She can't even tear paper without it. . . :facepalm:

If you watch the very start of the tantrum, it's apparent she started, then the camera changed to a wide angle shot of the floor.  Once the camera was back on her, she started ripping.

Maybe she has trouble tearing more than 2 pieces of paper at a time, but it seems more like she was repeating the rip over and over just to make sure the cameras caught it.

She totally blew any issue disagreements the Dems will try to discuss now.  They don't care about anything Trump said -- only about regaining power by any means necessary.

I really hope a Republican is sitting next to Pence at the next SOTU address.

To be honest, Trumps snub of Pelosi's handshake is taken out of proportion.  He quickly turned away after giving her his speech.  So he may not have saw it.  But I'm sure he planned it that way.  Compared to looking at her and down at her hand, then turning away.

TBH, I think it's unneeded to stand up every few minutes and clap.  It also looks bad when only 1 side stands up and claps.  Did they do the same when Barry was president?  GOP sat, while DNC stood up?

I agree. It could have been Trump did not see her out stretched hand. But how could he miss so much sagging skin? 

I like the standing up and clapping. For me it's a tradition that shows relative patriotism. If both both sides do it. Otherwise watching the Dems mostly sit when good things are announced that both sides support, to me just shows lack of respect. And of course it is tradition that the SCOTUS and the Armed Service guys do not clap nor stand at all.