the same generation that was eating tide pods and can’t figure out which bathroom to use 😤

That is really stupid.  Raise the voting age to 30 when people have more experience in life.  Karl Rhoads is even more stupid than Mazie Hirono.

Teens are not mature enough to vote on important issues.   

So they want them to be 100 years old to buy cigs, 21 to buy guns and beer, treat then as a minor when they commit crimes...

But should be able to vote?  SMFH

I would propose a law to allow anyone to vote as long as they show proof that they pay taxes.

If you don't pay, you don't get to decide how my money is to be spent.

I would propose a law to allow anyone to vote as long as they show proof that they pay taxes.

If you don't pay, you don't get to decide how my money is to be spent.

Every 5 year old who's bought a soda or candy has paid taxes.

Every 5 year old who's bought a soda or candy has paid taxes.

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The parents paid taxes on that soda.

I would make it mandatory to show a tax return in order to register to vote.
Makes sense to me.
Pros? Cons?

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The parents paid taxes on that soda.

I would make it mandatory to show a tax return in order to register to vote.
Makes sense to me.
Pros? Cons?

You don't have to have reportable income to vote.

Having said that, when the US was just creating the government, only landholders were allowed to vote.  Reason being it was understood that people with "skin in the game" would vote rationally to ensure the productive members of society chose their representatives.

Someone with nothing to lose has no qualms about giving their vote to the one who promises to take from the landholders and give it to the "have-nots".

Maybe we should start THAT discussion?   

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The parents paid taxes on that soda.

I would make it mandatory to show a tax return in order to register to vote.
Makes sense to me.
Pros? Cons?

I started paying income taxes and filing a return at age 15.  I made about $700 that year working in the pineapple fields of Molokai for $1.40 an hour.

You don't have to have reportable income to vote.

Having said that, when the US was just creating the government, only landholders were allowed to vote.  Reason being it was understood that people with "skin in the game" would vote rationally to ensure the productive members of society chose their representatives.

Someone with nothing to lose has no qualms about giving their vote to the one who promises to take from the landholders and give it to the "have-nots".

Maybe we should start THAT discussion?   

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Exactly my thought process.
"Skin in the game" was running through my head when I wrote that.
It does make sense doesn't it?

Furthermore, if you worked pineapple at 15 years old, you earned that privilege.
Yes, I worked pineapple when I was 15 too. I made a whopping 1.60 per hour.

I started paying income taxes and filing a return at age 15.  I made about $700 that year working in the pineapple fields of Molokai for $1.40 an hour.

Me as well. Started working at 15yo. Maintenance for Flo's Ewa Bakery.  Scrubbed the floors and pans.  Min at that time I think I remember to be $4.25


Even though I paid taxes, i didn't know a darn thing about life or politics,  didn't really care about that stuff either.


Being a responsible husband, father, and property owner makes one more intune and careful about politicians and politics, IMO. 


Becoming a gun owner made me become really serious,  and open eyed to the abundance of BS in politicians.

The scary part is my niece and boyfriend, who just graduated high school...  they were asking me about gun stuff. I was dumbfounded on how little, more like nothing, they knew about their gun rights, any rights, or anything at all about the Constitution and Bill of Rights... 

There is no way young people are informed enough to make voting decisions objectively in 2020.  Public schools utterly fail at teaching even the basics.  Probably just how the Democrats want it.  Knowledge and critical thinking is not a top priority. 

Yes, because of the above reasons stated by Heavies, that is why I would raise the voting age to 30, not lower it to16.

The scary part is my niece and boyfriend, who just graduated high school...  they were asking me about gun stuff. I was dumbfounded on how little, more like nothing, they knew about their gun rights, any rights, or anything at all about the Constitution and Bill of Rights... 

There is no way young people are informed enough to make voting decisions objectively in 2020.  Public schools utterly fail at teaching even the basics.  Probably just how the Democrats want it.  Knowledge and critical thinking is not a top priority.

You hit the nail right on the head. It is no accident that our young are misinformed and uneducated.Young minds full of mush are just the thing to make perfect useful idiots for the leftist liberal dems.
Sir Winston Churchill and others have so eloquently said: "Those who are not liberals in their youth have no heart"  "Those that remain liberals as they mature have no brain"

I had a job at 15 and paid taxes. Bag boy at times supermarket.



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I started paying income taxes and filing a return at age 15.  I made about $700 that year working in the pineapple fields of Molokai for $1.40 an hour.

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I just returned from Molokai yesterday. I went for my uncle's funeral. Then stopped at Kanemitsu to grab some omiyage.

Yes, because of the above reasons stated by Heavies, that is why I would raise the voting age to 30, not lower it to16.

THIS

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I just returned from Molokai yesterday. I went for my uncle's funeral. Then stopped at Kanemitsu to grab some omiyage.

Condolences.   

Small world, I work with one of the Kanemitsu sons.

Condolences.   

Small world, I work with one of the Kanemitsu sons.

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Going off topic for a bit....
I always tell people that it is a small world. Molokai is even smaller!
I flew over on Makani Kai Air, but I was the only passenger on the plane.
There were about 10 people leaving on the next plane but I did not know them.
Anyway, when I got to my uncle's house, most of the people who were on the other plane were in the dining room munching on donuts and fruits. It turns out that they were my cousins on the other branch of the family tree.