Here's what I got in summary from the HRP
Only a few weeks ago, our city and state leaders were making a bigger than usual show of pretending they care about the cost of living and affordability. Since then they have proposed or supported:

A new, large stormwater fee to support an expanded stormwater bureaucracy;
An increase in the excessive motor vehicle registration tax;
A new property tax;
A new mileage tax that would hit hardest those who cannot afford to live near work;
A new tax on every shipping container entering the state;
A new tax on driving on congested roads;
A new tax on Uber and Lyft;
A new tax on entering or leaving the state by air.

It seems that the political elite are creating a utopian apocalypse like...

Don't forget the proposed continuation of the "temporary" excise tax increase that was advertised to fund building the rail, after which fares would cover operations.

Now, they say they need the excise tax revenue to cover anticipated operating costs.  Like that fact wasn't obvious from day one . 

I've seen temporary increases in taxes elsewhere which were promised to pay for new police cars, gear and other essentials for officers, many of whom had patrol cars without so much as first aid kits.

After 5 years of fleecing the public tax payers, they came back to voters asking to extend the sales tax increase another 5 years, because "we didn't get around to buying the things we promised due to other budgetary priorities."

We voted that request down by an 80% majority.  Too bad Hawaii, the land of "Democratic Rule", doesn't put such matters to a vote outside of the legislature.

They even tax the tax.  Those of us who have filed the G45 tax form for business will know what I am talking about.  That is why even though the GET rate is 4.5%, a business will charge you 4.712% to cover the tax on the tax they have to pay.

They even tax the tax.  Those of us who have filed the G45 tax form for business will know what I am talking about.  That is why even though the GET rate is 4.5%, a business will charge you 4.712% to cover the tax on the tax they have to pay.

True.  When makers, wholesalers and retailers finish passing on their tax burden to each other, the consumer winds up paying on average 12.5% to cover the excise tax for everybody.  And I've never seen another place with sales tax that collects tax on the entire transaction including taxes added to the tax already being collected which doesn't go in the seller's pocket.  Inconceivable!!

Everything you all mention here are coming to fruition. Those of us who don’t have well paying jobs will be hit the hardest. Those people will leave the state. Even those with small businesses will leave/are leaving. I foresee the Hawaii economy grinding to a halt or at the very least slowing tremendously. Out government is shooting the state in the foot. They are addressing the real underlying problems. They are taxing and spending on programs that give back to their family and contributors. This corona virus might be the trigger to start all of this.

Good luck to all of you who are staying. 

Everything you all mention here are coming to fruition. Those of us who don’t have well paying jobs will be hit the hardest. Those people will leave the state. Even those with small businesses will leave/are leaving. I foresee the Hawaii economy grinding to a halt or at the very least slowing tremendously. Out government is shooting the state in the foot. They are addressing the real underlying problems. They are taxing and spending on programs that give back to their family and contributors. This corona virus might be the trigger to start all of this.

Good luck to all of you who are staying. 

"Good luck to all of you who are staying"
Thanks!
I'm retired but the only states I'd consider relocating to
(WA or AK) are more expensive than Hawaii given my
circumstance. So I stay here.
I do most all my shopping on-line, Most the local places
I deal with give veteran discounts, I can use the military
NEX, PX, BX sales Tax free, and I make maximum use
of the underground local economy( Cash, barter, trade).
I hope the tourism industry collapses, but I don't depend on
tourism for my  income.  They are just a pain in the butt
for me and they help fund a Tyrannical overpaid
Government buried in Nepotism and "Party loyalty".
One of the things on my Preps list is popcorn.
I expect to consume lots of popcorn and drink lots of beer
watching the ship sink slowly.

"Good luck to all of you who are staying"
Thanks!
I'm retired but the only states I'd consider relocating to
(WA or AK) are more expensive than Hawaii given my
circumstance. So I stay here.
I do most all my shopping on-line, Most the local places
I deal with give veteran discounts, I can use the military
NEX, PX, BX sales Tax free, and I make maximum use
of the underground local economy( Cash, barter, trade).
I hope the tourism industry collapses, but I don't depend on
tourism for my  income.  They are just a pain in the butt
for me and they help fund a Tyrannical overpaid
Government buried in Nepotism and "Party loyalty".
One of the things on my Preps list is popcorn.
I expect to consume lots of popcorn and drink lots of beer
watching the ship sink slowly.

Considering your circumstances, I wouldn’t move either. My wife and I thought long and hard before we made the decision to move.

Nepotism is alive and well on the Big Island. I have never seen anything quite like it until I lived over there. It exists here but not to the extent it does over there. I don’t wish for the tourism industry to collapse because it would hurt a lot of innocent people as well as those who are in charge. I guess old Ige would have to get down on his knees to Trump for a bailout. That might be fun to watch.

Considering your circumstances, I wouldn’t move either. My wife and I thought long and hard before we made the decision to move.

Nepotism is alive and well on the Big Island. I have never seen anything quite like it until I lived over there. It exists here but not to the extent it does over there. I don’t wish for the tourism industry to collapse because it would hurt a lot of innocent people as well as those who are in charge. I guess old Ige would have to get down on his knees to Trump for a bailout. That might be fun to watch.

"Nepotism is alive and well on the Big Island. I have never seen anything quite like it until I lived over there. It exists here but not to the extent it does over there."
No SHIT!  It has taken me twenty years to get a large enough Ohana to get things done and I'm still something of an outsider.
I always tell everybody that if you want to see real Hawaii come to the Big island, Kauai, or Molokai.
Honolulu is just a warm San Fransisco.
We should move the capitol back to Lahina.
Better class of people there.

"Good luck to all of you who are staying"
Thanks!
I'm retired but the only states I'd consider relocating to
(WA or AK) are more expensive than Hawaii given my
circumstance. So I stay here.
I do most all my shopping on-line, Most the local places
I deal with give veteran discounts, I can use the military
NEX, PX, BX sales Tax free, and I make maximum use
of the underground local economy( Cash, barter, trade).
I hope the tourism industry collapses, but I don't depend on
tourism for my  income.  They are just a pain in the butt
for me and they help fund a Tyrannical overpaid
Government buried in Nepotism and "Party loyalty".
One of the things on my Preps list is popcorn.
I expect to consume lots of popcorn and drink lots of beer
watching the ship sink slowly.

Veterans discounts is a great example of socialism!  Veterans should get special treatment over common citizens.   

As for your hope the US occupying government in Hawaii to collapse and leave, I could not agree more.   

Veterans discounts is a great example of socialism!  Veterans should get special treatment over common citizens.   

As for your hope the US occupying government in Hawaii to collapse and leave, I could not agree more.   

So you expect to reap the benefits that are afforded to those who have honorably served this country, without serving?  That's a great example of mentality of privileged millenials. . . 

Veterans discounts is a great example of socialism!  Veterans should get special treatment over common citizens.   

As for your hope the US occupying government in Hawaii to collapse and leave, I could not agree more.   

I guess you missed this part,
"Tyrannical overpaid
Government buried in Nepotism and "Party loyalty"
I expect your version of a Hawaiian nation to be even worse.

I expect your version of a Hawaiian nation to be even worse.

So you expect to reap the benefits that are afforded to those who have honorably served this country, without serving?  That's a great example of mentality of privileged millenials. . .

No its not.

Serving in the armed forces is not different that any other job.  You apply, serve, and get paid with benefits while there.

Once you retire, who says that serving for your country in the military is any different from firemen, police officers, hazmat responders, etc., who had to undergo comparable hazards while employed?

Why should former military get "veterans benefits" and those other highly respectable professionals do not?

I guess you missed this part,
"Tyrannical overpaid
Government buried in Nepotism and "Party loyalty"
I expect your version of a Hawaiian nation to be even worse.

Your response clearly shows your racist views against Hawaiians, implying Hawaiians are not capable of running their own nation like they did prior to the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US in 1898.

Do you ever tell your so-called Hawaiian friends on the Big Island how incapable they are in running a government?  I would love to hear what they think of your views.

Your response clearly shows your racist views against Hawaiians, implying Hawaiians are not capable of running their own nation like they did prior to the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US in 1898.

Do you ever tell your so-called Hawaiian friends on the Big Island how incapable they are in running a government?  I would love to hear what they think of your views.

All my Hawaiian, Portogee, Chinese, Japanese and what ever races
all think Democrats are all nut cases and the "Hawaiian" leaders are even worse.
But I hang with working class down to earth people, that are barely making by.
For the most part they don't like or observe the stupid laws made
by stupid people.
Outer island, cowboy country.
I sincerely hope you Oahu people secede and form your own nation.
Then the real Hawaiian's can build casinos on south point and get rich.
Molokai can have a casino and 100% employment.
Kauai can have a missile defense system to defend real Hawaii.
Get my drift? We don't like Honolulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your response clearly shows your racist views against Hawaiians, implying Hawaiians are not capable of running their own nation like they did prior to the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US in 1898.

Do you ever tell your so-called Hawaiian friends on the Big Island how incapable they are in running a government?  I would love to hear what they think of your views.

here we go with that race card. There was nothing racist about his response at all. Its just like saying someone doesn't like Chinese food.

"All my Hawaiian, Portogee, Chinese, Japanese and what ever races all think Democrats are all nut cases and the "Hawaiian" leaders are even worse."

Most politicians are nut cases and in the case of Hawaii, that means most of the Democrats.

Most of the Hawaiian leaders CURRETNLY IN-POWER ARE TERRIBLE.  The good ones though, are STANDING-BY PATIENTLY.   



"I sincerely hope you Oahu people secede and form your own nation. Then the real Hawaiian's can build casinos on south point and get rich. Molokai can have a casino and 100% employment."

What makes you think Hawaiians working for the de-occupation don't already have that in-mind already?   



"Kauai can have a missile defense system to defend real Hawaii."

So all the Kauaians can die in the first strike?  Kauaians are not stupid.   

QUESTION: What group do you think is providing the opposition for that missile defense?
ANSWER: Hawaiians...Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding




"Get my drift? We don't like Honolulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Speak for yourself.

I can assure you that MOST HAWAIIAN NATIONALS are looking forward towards de-occupation.   

here we go with that race card. There was nothing racist about his response at all. Its just like saying someone doesn't like Chinese food.

The most idiotic defense of a racist statement ever.

"I expect your version of a Hawaiian nation to be even worse." is just as racist as saying, "I expect your version of a German nation to be even worse."

Both statements imply inferiority of the subject peoples to govern a nation.

"All my Hawaiian, Portogee, Chinese, Japanese and what ever races all think Democrats are all nut cases and the "Hawaiian" leaders are even worse."

Most politicians are nut cases and in the case of Hawaii, that means most of the Democrats.

Most of the Hawaiian leaders CURRETNLY IN-POWER ARE TERRIBLE.  The good ones though, are STANDING-BY PATIENTLY.   



"I sincerely hope you Oahu people secede and form your own nation. Then the real Hawaiian's can build casinos on south point and get rich. Molokai can have a casino and 100% employment."

What makes you think Hawaiians working for the de-occupation don't already have that in-mind already?   



"Kauai can have a missile defense system to defend real Hawaii."

So all the Kauaians can die in the first strike?  Kauaians are not stupid.   

QUESTION: What group do you think is providing the opposition for that missile defense?
ANSWER: Hawaiians...Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding




"Get my drift? We don't like Honolulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Speak for yourself.

I can assure you that MOST HAWAIIAN NATIONALS are looking forward towards de-occupation.   

"MOST HAWAIIAN NATIONALS"
I'm a citizen of the state of Hawaii.
You want to go to war with me?
US Military taught me things.
Want to try them out?
I'm old enough to know
war is not the way to go.
I also know you have to give
EVERYBODY a say.
regardless of race, caste,
or economics.
Racial crap is Bilge.
Deal with reality,  be mindful
of the past, don't make those
mistakes again in the future.
You advocate the mistakes of the past.
as a future.  I don't agree.
You should read Plato's Republic.
it is your Hawaiian paradise.
 

"I'm a citizen of the state of Hawaii.  You want to go to war with me?  US Military taught me things.  Want to try them out?  I'm old enough to know war is not the way to go."

Hawaiian nationals seek a de-occupation of their country due to the violation of the US Constitution of America's annexation of Hawaii in 1898.  Hence, there is no need for violence, but compliance to US Constitutional law.  If you remember your oath to the US Constitution, you should be upholding to its tenants and help Hawaiian nationals reassert authority of their nation.



"I also know you have to give EVERYBODY a say regardless of race, caste, or economics."

That was the America of the past, which you above all else knows doesn't exists anymore.  Especially, with law enforcement in the US becoming more fascist every year.



"Racial crap is Bilge.  Deal with reality, be mindful of the past, don't make those mistakes again in the future."

Well, too bad America has learned nothing from its own and previous empires of the past (e.g., police state, bailouts to the rich, imperial overstretch, etc.).



"You advocate the mistakes of the past as a future.  I don't agree."

Constitutionally, the de-occupation of Hawaii is the CORRECTION of America's past mistake in 1898.